They are going to conduct investigative hearings. They just won't be labelled as "impeachment hearings."

If the facts warrant, then the house could take up impeachment. If they don't, then it is what it is.

Anonymous wrote:Rep. Nadler has subpoenaed Don McGahn.
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/McGahn%20Subpoena%204.22.19.pdf

Holy crap - this is very detailed and specific. Wow. I really thought Nadler was backing off, but this says otherwise. Is it possible these investigations will move forward at a steady pace while Pelosi and the Dems avoid impeachment proceedings?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprise Rudy's comments admitting the Trump Campaign used stolen materials provided by the Russians isn't getting more discussion here.

Maybe because that is not what Giuliani said. Stop reading Think Progress.

Giuliani says there's "nothing wrong with taking information from Russians"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-says-theres-nothing-wrong-with-taking-info-from-russia/

RUDY GIULIANI SAYS “THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH TAKING INFORMATION FROM RUSSIANS”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/rudy-giuliani-nothing-wrong-russians-mueller

Giuliani: "Nothing Wrong" With Taking Information From The Russians
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/21/giuliani_nothing_wrong_with_taking_information_from_the_russians.html

Rudy Giuliani: There's 'Nothing Wrong' With Trump Campaign Taking Information From Russians
http://time.com/5574863/mueller-report-giuliani-nothing-wrong-trump-russia/

Giuliani says using Hillary Clinton dirt hacked by Russians was OK
https://nypost.com/2019/04/21/giuliani-says-using-hillary-clinton-dirt-hacked-by-russians-was-ok/

And I bolded the portion of your original comment that was taken from Think Progress.

I am the PP you are criticizing. I don't read Think Progress and I did come up with those words on my own. Sorry to disappoint you.

Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest though. Giuliani was right when he said that if it's wrong to use stolen materials from foreign adversaries, then why did the media release the stolen material? The fruits of Wikileaks - the DNC and Podesta emails - weren't off limits. If this is so egregious, why were they not savaged for doing so? They went to court to defend their right to use this information.

The campaign and Candidate Trump specifically knew ahead of time about the stolen material. Did they notify the FBI? Did they make a public statement pulling all such information off limits for the campaign? No, the weaponized it and used it to their advantage. Given the communications between the campaign and Wikileaks, if it is demonstrated that there is a hard connection between the GRU and Wikileaks, then there would be an international conspiracy against the US Election that the Trump campaign actively participated in. A big if, but it is out there.

Is that ok?

Let's be honest though. Giuliani was right when he said that if it's wrong to use stolen materials from foreign adversaries, then why did the media release the stolen material? The fruits of Wikileaks - the DNC and Podesta emails - weren't off limits. If this is so egregious, why were they not savaged for doing so? They went to court to defend their right to use this information.

Rep. Nadler has subpoenaed Don McGahn.
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/McGahn%20Subpoena%204.22.19.pdf

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprise Rudy's comments admitting the Trump Campaign used stolen materials provided by the Russians isn't getting more discussion here.

Maybe because that is not what Giuliani said. Stop reading Think Progress.

Giuliani says there's "nothing wrong with taking information from Russians"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-says-theres-nothing-wrong-with-taking-info-from-russia/

RUDY GIULIANI SAYS “THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH TAKING INFORMATION FROM RUSSIANS”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/rudy-giuliani-nothing-wrong-russians-mueller

Giuliani: "Nothing Wrong" With Taking Information From The Russians
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/21/giuliani_nothing_wrong_with_taking_information_from_the_russians.html

Rudy Giuliani: There's 'Nothing Wrong' With Trump Campaign Taking Information From Russians
http://time.com/5574863/mueller-report-giuliani-nothing-wrong-trump-russia/

Giuliani says using Hillary Clinton dirt hacked by Russians was OK
https://nypost.com/2019/04/21/giuliani-says-using-hillary-clinton-dirt-hacked-by-russians-was-ok/

And I bolded the portion of your original comment that was taken from Think Progress.

Wait, are you disputing that the materials were stolen? Or stolen by the Russians?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprise Rudy's comments admitting the Trump Campaign used stolen materials provided by the Russians isn't getting more discussion here.

Maybe because that is not what Giuliani said. Stop reading Think Progress.

Giuliani says there's "nothing wrong with taking information from Russians"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-says-theres-nothing-wrong-with-taking-info-from-russia/

RUDY GIULIANI SAYS “THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH TAKING INFORMATION FROM RUSSIANS”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/rudy-giuliani-nothing-wrong-russians-mueller

Giuliani: "Nothing Wrong" With Taking Information From The Russians
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/21/giuliani_nothing_wrong_with_taking_information_from_the_russians.html

Rudy Giuliani: There's 'Nothing Wrong' With Trump Campaign Taking Information From Russians
http://time.com/5574863/mueller-report-giuliani-nothing-wrong-trump-russia/

Giuliani says using Hillary Clinton dirt hacked by Russians was OK
https://nypost.com/2019/04/21/giuliani-says-using-hillary-clinton-dirt-hacked-by-russians-was-ok/

And I bolded the portion of your original comment that was taken from Think Progress.

Read the articles, dumbass:

“It is not OK for political campaigns to work with material stolen by foreign adversaries?” Todd asked.

“Well, it depends on the stolen material,” Giuliani responded.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprise Rudy's comments admitting the Trump Campaign used stolen materials provided by the Russians isn't getting more discussion here.

Maybe because that is not what Giuliani said. Stop reading Think Progress.

Giuliani says there's "nothing wrong with taking information from Russians"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-says-theres-nothing-wrong-with-taking-info-from-russia/

RUDY GIULIANI SAYS “THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH TAKING INFORMATION FROM RUSSIANS”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/rudy-giuliani-nothing-wrong-russians-mueller

Giuliani: "Nothing Wrong" With Taking Information From The Russians
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/21/giuliani_nothing_wrong_with_taking_information_from_the_russians.html

Rudy Giuliani: There's 'Nothing Wrong' With Trump Campaign Taking Information From Russians
http://time.com/5574863/mueller-report-giuliani-nothing-wrong-trump-russia/

Giuliani says using Hillary Clinton dirt hacked by Russians was OK
https://nypost.com/2019/04/21/giuliani-says-using-hillary-clinton-dirt-hacked-by-russians-was-ok/

And I bolded the portion of your original comment that was taken from Think Progress.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am surprise Rudy's comments admitting the Trump Campaign used stolen materials provided by the Russians isn't getting more discussion here.

Maybe because that is not what Giuliani said. Stop reading Think Progress.

Giuliani says there's "nothing wrong with taking information from Russians"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-says-theres-nothing-wrong-with-taking-info-from-russia/

RUDY GIULIANI SAYS “THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH TAKING INFORMATION FROM RUSSIANS”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/rudy-giuliani-nothing-wrong-russians-mueller

Giuliani: "Nothing Wrong" With Taking Information From The Russians
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/21/giuliani_nothing_wrong_with_taking_information_from_the_russians.html

Rudy Giuliani: There's 'Nothing Wrong' With Trump Campaign Taking Information From Russians
http://time.com/5574863/mueller-report-giuliani-nothing-wrong-trump-russia/

Giuliani says using Hillary Clinton dirt hacked by Russians was OK
https://nypost.com/2019/04/21/giuliani-says-using-hillary-clinton-dirt-hacked-by-russians-was-ok/

Anonymous wrote:I am surprise Rudy's comments admitting the Trump Campaign used stolen materials provided by the Russians isn't getting more discussion here.

Maybe because that is not what Giuliani said. Stop reading Think Progress.

How come Trump hasn't come out to condemn Russian interference with our elections?

I am surprise Rudy's comments admitting the Trump Campaign used stolen materials provided by the Russians isn't getting more discussion here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not like the findings of the Mueller Report are the only impeachable events.

Literally, just *last week* we found out that Trump told border officials to break the law and if they got in trouble, he would pardon them. He violates his oath every day.

He denied that, but how do you decide when to believe?

Here's a big hint: Trump lies ALL.THE.TIME.

So, I don't believe a word he says. Whatever he denies I can pretty much assume is in fact true.