Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:49     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Moderate who voted for Hillary, but I think Trump has the right idea.

I am very anti-illegal immigration, and live in a stupidly liberal area of MoCo. Neighbors with signs up everywhere about how ‘We Welcome All Immigrants’ etc, etc.

Maybe Trump could choose each of these houses to accept the illegal immigrants? They are advertising a welcome. Makes perfect sense to me.


Couldn’t agree more.


Welcoming immigrants and illegal immigrants are two different things. Those signs - and I know what you’re referring to - are calling out the xenophobia that has characterized and been stoked by this administration from day one. They popped up shortly after Trump was elected and enacted the “Muslim ban”. Funny how you twist a sign and message intended to impart community into “it’s now liberals responsibility to clothe and shelter illegal immigrants.”

But while we’re on the topic of liberal charity, what about our collective blue state contributions to keep red states on the dole? I’ll use my tax dollars to house, clothe, and educate a family from Central America that desperately wants a life in the US and is willing to put everything on the line to have it in exchange for not having to support freeloading red staters who vote against their best interest and fall for Trump’s demagoguery while he establishes a kleptocracy at the expense of all but the very wealthy. Deal?


LOL. Its funny that you think the Central American families wont be freeloading


I don't think of people feeling desperate poverty and violence by walking thousands of miles for a chance at a better life - or a chance to just live - as freeloaders. These are humanitarian refugees, and many of these people have more of an appreciation for hard work and the American dream and what this country stands for than the average Trump voter or GOP politician.

Speaking of freeloaders .... all those tax cuts for billionaires.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:46     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So we are to believe that this is a 36 page thread because some are mad that Trump was mean?

What is the difference between this topic and literally every other day?

The issue is that you dont want your schools and neighborhoods going to the crapper. Its okay to admit.




You are projecting, MAGA trash!!

And, phew! Finally! It took 36 pages for you to realize that we are outraged by Trump’s vindictiveness, not the immigrants. Not the brightest bunch, are you?



Riiiiight. If the idea of sending these immigrants to sanctuary cities had come from the Democrats, you’d be falling all over yourselves to show your approval. The only reason you’re outraged (as usual) is because your favorite person to hate suggested it. Get real. We see straight through your faux outrage.
-DP
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:43     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Trump should definitely get the credit for his idea. He should loan out his own buses so he gets full credit for his idea. Immigrants will love him. He’s a billionaire, right? What’s a few buses to him. Actually, he can get his campaign to pay for the buses. I’m sure his donors won’t mind.

Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:41     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:I can guarantee you that if Trump decides to use these immigrants as pawns and send them to sanctuary cities, that people like me will be there to welcome them with open arms and help to make them feel like the human beings they are.

Means I'll have less money to send to the aid of those hurt by natural disasters that are plaguing the US in this time of climate change. But oh well. I'm sure Trump will step up to make up for that loss, as long as the residents in states affected promise to vote for him. If they don't, they shouldn't hold their breath.



Oh, you wonderful, humane, modest person. Thank you for sharing your deep virtue with the rest of us mere mortals. Glad to hear you’ll be helping to roll out the red carpet! Keep us updated on all your good works.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:39     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Moderate who voted for Hillary, but I think Trump has the right idea.

I am very anti-illegal immigration, and live in a stupidly liberal area of MoCo. Neighbors with signs up everywhere about how ‘We Welcome All Immigrants’ etc, etc.

Maybe Trump could choose each of these houses to accept the illegal immigrants? They are advertising a welcome. Makes perfect sense to me.


Couldn’t agree more.


Welcoming immigrants and illegal immigrants are two different things. Those signs - and I know what you’re referring to - are calling out the xenophobia that has characterized and been stoked by this administration from day one. They popped up shortly after Trump was elected and enacted the “Muslim ban”. Funny how you twist a sign and message intended to impart community into “it’s now liberals responsibility to clothe and shelter illegal immigrants.”

But while we’re on the topic of liberal charity, what about our collective blue state contributions to keep red states on the dole? I’ll use my tax dollars to house, clothe, and educate a family from Central America that desperately wants a life in the US and is willing to put everything on the line to have it in exchange for not having to support freeloading red staters who vote against their best interest and fall for Trump’s demagoguery while he establishes a kleptocracy at the expense of all but the very wealthy. Deal?


LOL. Its funny that you think the Central American families wont be freeloading
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:38     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Where did OP say she doesn’t want immigrants sent to blue areas? She’s talking about Trump’s behavior.


This is has been copied and pasted before.

from OP's post

Trump wants to use the apprehended immigrants as if they are wild animals to release them in "sanctuary cities" to punish Democrats and blue states!!! WTF!


OP is taking liberties with Trump's wording. OK, Trump used the word, animals, in regard to MS 13 (he claimed). People didn't believe him, as they claimed he used the term to describe ALL migrants. fine . . . (I'm not a Trump supporter, but I do look at the hypocrisy stemming from both sides.)

So OP then used some charged language - the use of "wild animals" and "punish."

OP "softened" the blow by inserting "as if," which isn't a direct comparison. But the comparison is there nonetheless.

So on a psychological level, OP is indeed characterizing these folks as animals who will punish all the liberals. But OP deflects by blaming Trump.

A truly compassionate liberal would have questioned Trump's motives w/o using harsh word choice.

And let's just call a spade a spade, folks. The point of sanctuary cities was to allow illegal immigrants to feel comfortable around police (and other service workers) w/o fear of some sort of retribution. So of course these welcoming environments would be number one choices in relocation efforts.

I was called a liar b/c of something I apparently said about sanctuary cities - but was never given the specifics. (I was only attacked, which isn't a way to argue.) Therefore, I'm addressing this topic here, as it's fitting.




Well said.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:36     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Where did OP say she doesn’t want immigrants sent to blue areas? She’s talking about Trump’s behavior.


This is has been copied and pasted before.

from OP's post

Trump wants to use the apprehended immigrants as if they are wild animals to release them in "sanctuary cities" to punish Democrats and blue states!!! WTF!


OP is taking liberties with Trump's wording. OK, Trump used the word, animals, in regard to MS 13 (he claimed). People didn't believe him, as they claimed he used the term to describe ALL migrants. fine . . . (I'm not a Trump supporter, but I do look at the hypocrisy stemming from both sides.)

So OP then used some charged language - the use of "wild animals" and "punish."

OP "softened" the blow by inserting "as if," which isn't a direct comparison. But the comparison is there nonetheless.

So on a psychological level, OP is indeed characterizing these folks as animals who will punish all the liberals. But OP deflects by blaming Trump.

A truly compassionate liberal would have questioned Trump's motives w/o using harsh word choice.

And let's just call a spade a spade, folks. The point of sanctuary cities was to allow illegal immigrants to feel comfortable around police (and other service workers) w/o fear of some sort of retribution. So of course these welcoming environments would be number one choices in relocation efforts.

I was called a liar b/c of something I apparently said about sanctuary cities - but was never given the specifics. (I was only attacked, which isn't a way to argue.) Therefore, I'm addressing this topic here, as it's fitting.





The issue was Trump wanting to treat humans like pawns. Is that really that difficult for you to comprehend?


No, we GET it. You don't.

The point is that DESPITE Trump's MOTIVATION, if liberals are so compassionate, you included, that hate toward Trump would be channeled into good. In other words, your hate will amount to nothing other than wasted energy.

Take that energy and begin thinking of ways to introduce these folks into the community.

b/c they WILL enter welcoming communities

So you're getting what you asked for. Who cares what Trump thinks or says? He isn't changing! But YOU ALL can indeed make good on your word.

Now get to work!

I already know how this will impact my life - my job in particular. But I'm not obsessing over Trump's motivation.




Great. Send them. We will support them. As we’ve said again and again.

Yes, we all know Trump and Miller will continue to be amoral POSs who look for ways to punish Dems. And you will continue to support them and defend them given that you’re also an amoral POS. You all deserve each other.


The stupidity on these threads is astonishing.

I did NOT vote for Trump. Yet, if I disagree with the hypocrisy of the liberal, I'm a Trumpster.

love the name-calling - I'm a piece of sh*t. Thanks!

Now get to work! lots of work to accomplish in a short period



You support Trump. You put him on office. You defend him. He’s yours.

Great. Tell Trump to gas up the buses.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:36     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:So we are to believe that this is a 36 page thread because some are mad that Trump was mean?

What is the difference between this topic and literally every other day?

The issue is that you dont want your schools and neighborhoods going to the crapper. Its okay to admit.


Exactly. And let’s not forget who started this thread - a liberal who was outraged (wow, is that redundant) that Trump would have the audacity to suggest bringing immigrants to sanctuary cities. They don’t want them any more than the next person, but using Trump as their constant scapegoat allows them to pretend otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:35     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Moderate who voted for Hillary, but I think Trump has the right idea.

I am very anti-illegal immigration, and live in a stupidly liberal area of MoCo. Neighbors with signs up everywhere about how ‘We Welcome All Immigrants’ etc, etc.

Maybe Trump could choose each of these houses to accept the illegal immigrants? They are advertising a welcome. Makes perfect sense to me.


Couldn’t agree more.


Welcoming immigrants and illegal immigrants are two different things. Those signs - and I know what you’re referring to - are calling out the xenophobia that has characterized and been stoked by this administration from day one. They popped up shortly after Trump was elected and enacted the “Muslim ban”. Funny how you twist a sign and message intended to impart community into “it’s now liberals responsibility to clothe and shelter illegal immigrants.”

But while we’re on the topic of liberal charity, what about our collective blue state contributions to keep red states on the dole? I’ll use my tax dollars to house, clothe, and educate a family from Central America that desperately wants a life in the US and is willing to put everything on the line to have it in exchange for not having to support freeloading red staters who vote against their best interest and fall for Trump’s demagoguery while he establishes a kleptocracy at the expense of all but the very wealthy. Deal?



Yes, let’s stop subsidizing the loser red states and reinvest in the blue states.

Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:35     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Where did OP say she doesn’t want immigrants sent to blue areas? She’s talking about Trump’s behavior.


This is has been copied and pasted before.

from OP's post

Trump wants to use the apprehended immigrants as if they are wild animals to release them in "sanctuary cities" to punish Democrats and blue states!!! WTF!


OP is taking liberties with Trump's wording. OK, Trump used the word, animals, in regard to MS 13 (he claimed). People didn't believe him, as they claimed he used the term to describe ALL migrants. fine . . . (I'm not a Trump supporter, but I do look at the hypocrisy stemming from both sides.)

So OP then used some charged language - the use of "wild animals" and "punish."

OP "softened" the blow by inserting "as if," which isn't a direct comparison. But the comparison is there nonetheless.

So on a psychological level, OP is indeed characterizing these folks as animals who will punish all the liberals. But OP deflects by blaming Trump.

A truly compassionate liberal would have questioned Trump's motives w/o using harsh word choice.

And let's just call a spade a spade, folks. The point of sanctuary cities was to allow illegal immigrants to feel comfortable around police (and other service workers) w/o fear of some sort of retribution. So of course these welcoming environments would be number one choices in relocation efforts.

I was called a liar b/c of something I apparently said about sanctuary cities - but was never given the specifics. (I was only attacked, which isn't a way to argue.) Therefore, I'm addressing this topic here, as it's fitting.





The issue was Trump wanting to treat humans like pawns. Is that really that difficult for you to comprehend?


No, we GET it. You don't.

The point is that DESPITE Trump's MOTIVATION, if liberals are so compassionate, you included, that hate toward Trump would be channeled into good. In other words, your hate will amount to nothing other than wasted energy.

Take that energy and begin thinking of ways to introduce these folks into the community.

b/c they WILL enter welcoming communities

So you're getting what you asked for. Who cares what Trump thinks or says? He isn't changing! But YOU ALL can indeed make good on your word.

Now get to work!

I already know how this will impact my life - my job in particular. But I'm not obsessing over Trump's motivation.




Great. Send them. We will support them. As we’ve said again and again.

Yes, we all know Trump and Miller will continue to be amoral POSs who look for ways to punish Dems. And you will continue to support them and defend them given that you’re also an amoral POS. You all deserve each other.


The stupidity on these threads is astonishing.

I did NOT vote for Trump. Yet, if I disagree with the hypocrisy of the liberal, I'm a Trumpster.

love the name-calling - I'm a piece of sh*t. Thanks!

Now get to work! lots of work to accomplish in a short period
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:30     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Moderate who voted for Hillary, but I think Trump has the right idea.

I am very anti-illegal immigration, and live in a stupidly liberal area of MoCo. Neighbors with signs up everywhere about how ‘We Welcome All Immigrants’ etc, etc.

Maybe Trump could choose each of these houses to accept the illegal immigrants? They are advertising a welcome. Makes perfect sense to me.


Couldn’t agree more.


Welcoming immigrants and illegal immigrants are two different things. Those signs - and I know what you’re referring to - are calling out the xenophobia that has characterized and been stoked by this administration from day one. They popped up shortly after Trump was elected and enacted the “Muslim ban”. Funny how you twist a sign and message intended to impart community into “it’s now liberals responsibility to clothe and shelter illegal immigrants.”

But while we’re on the topic of liberal charity, what about our collective blue state contributions to keep red states on the dole? I’ll use my tax dollars to house, clothe, and educate a family from Central America that desperately wants a life in the US and is willing to put everything on the line to have it in exchange for not having to support freeloading red staters who vote against their best interest and fall for Trump’s demagoguery while he establishes a kleptocracy at the expense of all but the very wealthy. Deal?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:27     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.


+1,000
Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.


TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?



Who cares? YOU don't think it's a punishment, right? Or do you? Which is it?


this

It becomes an attack on Trump when he stated the obvious. While ICE isn't going to OFFICIALLY ship newcomers to sanctuary cities, that's where they're headed. Mo Co, for example, is growing in diversity.

Here are some stats:
The population of Montgomery County, MD is 44.5% White, 19.1% Hispanic, and 17.8% Black. 41% of the people in Montgomery County, MD speak a non-English language, and 84.8% are U.S. citizens.


Astute folks notice it in the schools first. Here is a demographic chart of the MCPS schools - https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/annualreport/2017/
Hispanics make up the largest group. Now, you'd need to examine the numbers more closely to see who's in ESOL classes, for example, in order to analyze funding and growth. And those numbers will change from level to level, as there may be more allocated for ES than for HS, for example, depending upon shifts in the population. But we do know that the group is growing, which makes it attractive for those seeking refuge in similar communities.



So while "Trump thinks it's a punishment," as you so eloquently stated, do YOU think it's a punishment, too? That's the question that's been asked again and again on these threads.

The growth is there, folks. Liberal (and mainly coastal) cities will attract newcomers for many reasons. So how is Trump's "punishment" any different from what's ALREADY BEEN in place for YEARS?


Well said. Of course, liberals can’t stand to be called out on their BS, so they’ll simply keep deflecting to “Trump’s trying to *punish* us!!” So funny.


Stop pushing your lies...no one is buying it.


On the contrary, the entire nation is watching you hypocrites trying desperately to walk back your positions on sanctuary cities. We are all watching you and will definitely remember in 2020. "You bought it, you own it" - isn't that what you're always saying?


Example of the walking back?


Seriously?
Then: "ALL immigrants are welcome here! Legal, illegal - these are people and immigrants built this country! They should ALL be welcomed here and anyone saying otherwise is a racist!"
Now: "Wait - you're not really suggesting we bring them in by the busload, to our blue cities - where I LIVE??? This is an abomination! Trump's a monster for suggesting this!!"



Timestamp?

Do your own work and stop your incessant, moronic questions. Liberals in general are notorious for hopping on their soapboxes regarding welcoming illegal immigrants, and you know it. To pretend otherwise simply makes you intellectually dishonest.



Give an example of the bolded. We know you can’t because you are full of sh1t.




Uh, check the OP, you complete twit. No one is taking you and your lying seriously.



Where did OP say she doesn’t want immigrants coming to her town? She was just calling out Trump’s behavior. Almost 40 pages and the morons still can’t distinguish the two.


Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:27     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When my oldest (who is turning 30 this month) entered MoCo public schools in the 90's, their national ranking was in the top 10%. When my youngest graduate high school next year, the ranking will be substantially lower. Want to know why?



Wrong thread, Gramps.


No, they don't want to know why.


+1
They may be idiots, but they know exactly why.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:26     Subject: Re:Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If a President said that the federal government would no longer provide its services to states run by “don’t tread on me” tea party politicians or that ACA protections such as preexisting conditions coverage would not be given to states whose governors oppose the ACA we would be horrified. It would be an abuse of power


It's not an abuse of power if those states had asked to be excluded from those laws. I would have no problem with blue states only having Medicare for all or some public option healthcare. Of red states dont want it so what


That would hurt every citizen in that state, even if they didn’t want to be excluded from those laws. That’s collective punishment and something that this country is supposed to stand against.


by this logic half the country is 'punished' if their chosen candidate loses. We have a representative government. If enough people want healthcare under that model they can move or get enough voters to vote out the opposition.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2019 14:25     Subject: Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Where did OP say she doesn’t want immigrants sent to blue areas? She’s talking about Trump’s behavior.


This is has been copied and pasted before.

from OP's post

Trump wants to use the apprehended immigrants as if they are wild animals to release them in "sanctuary cities" to punish Democrats and blue states!!! WTF!


OP is taking liberties with Trump's wording. OK, Trump used the word, animals, in regard to MS 13 (he claimed). People didn't believe him, as they claimed he used the term to describe ALL migrants. fine . . . (I'm not a Trump supporter, but I do look at the hypocrisy stemming from both sides.)

So OP then used some charged language - the use of "wild animals" and "punish."

OP "softened" the blow by inserting "as if," which isn't a direct comparison. But the comparison is there nonetheless.

So on a psychological level, OP is indeed characterizing these folks as animals who will punish all the liberals. But OP deflects by blaming Trump.

A truly compassionate liberal would have questioned Trump's motives w/o using harsh word choice.

And let's just call a spade a spade, folks. The point of sanctuary cities was to allow illegal immigrants to feel comfortable around police (and other service workers) w/o fear of some sort of retribution. So of course these welcoming environments would be number one choices in relocation efforts.

I was called a liar b/c of something I apparently said about sanctuary cities - but was never given the specifics. (I was only attacked, which isn't a way to argue.) Therefore, I'm addressing this topic here, as it's fitting.





The issue was Trump wanting to treat humans like pawns. Is that really that difficult for you to comprehend?


No, we GET it. You don't.

The point is that DESPITE Trump's MOTIVATION, if liberals are so compassionate, you included, that hate toward Trump would be channeled into good. In other words, your hate will amount to nothing other than wasted energy.

Take that energy and begin thinking of ways to introduce these folks into the community.

b/c they WILL enter welcoming communities

So you're getting what you asked for. Who cares what Trump thinks or says? He isn't changing! But YOU ALL can indeed make good on your word.

Now get to work!

I already know how this will impact my life - my job in particular. But I'm not obsessing over Trump's motivation.




Great. Send them. We will support them. As we’ve said again and again.

Yes, we all know Trump and Miller will continue to be amoral POSs who look for ways to punish Dems. And you will continue to support them and defend them given that you’re also an amoral POS. You all deserve each other.