Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Penn boosters are really something else, lol. Everyone remembers when Penn was the least desirable Ivy with like a 60%+ acceptance rate only a couple decades ago. Your school is masterful at fabricating history, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if you conveniently forgot about that inconvenient fact.
The Wharton School of Business was the best or tied for best from what I remember. Maybe you are thinking philosophy majors or something
No one cares. Columbia has always, always been considered the better school above Penn.
Rational persons care.
Wharton School of Business is elite at the level of HYPSM and clearly above Columbia. UPenn (excluding Wharton) is just below Columbia. Simple. Non-controversial.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Penn boosters are really something else, lol. Everyone remembers when Penn was the least desirable Ivy with like a 60%+ acceptance rate only a couple decades ago. Your school is masterful at fabricating history, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if you conveniently forgot about that inconvenient fact.
The Wharton School of Business was the best or tied for best from what I remember. Maybe you are thinking philosophy majors or something
No one cares. Columbia has always, always been considered the better school above Penn.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you asked 12th graders where they'd like to attend college next year, no strings, no admissions gaming:
- Northwestern
- Chicago
- Duke
98 out of 100 would choose Duke.
Same question:
- Northwestern
- Chicago
- Columbia
- Penn
98 out of 100 would choose Columbia or Penn.
I don't care how many apps Chicago and NU receive, I don't care how you [they] twist the admissions data, Chicago and Northwestern are simply not top rung elite. And outside of the Rust Belt, nobody sees Chicago as some aspirational city to live in, let alone settle down in after college. It's fairly stagnant, cold as hell half the year, and the crime is through the roof.
+1
Agree if it's someone from DC. I never even heard of UChicago or Northwestern until after high school. UChicago not until my 30s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Penn boosters are really something else, lol. Everyone remembers when Penn was the least desirable Ivy with like a 60%+ acceptance rate only a couple decades ago. Your school is masterful at fabricating history, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if you conveniently forgot about that inconvenient fact.
The Wharton School of Business was the best or tied for best from what I remember. Maybe you are thinking philosophy majors or something
No one cares. Columbia has always, always been considered the better school above Penn.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Penn boosters are really something else, lol. Everyone remembers when Penn was the least desirable Ivy with like a 60%+ acceptance rate only a couple decades ago. Your school is masterful at fabricating history, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if you conveniently forgot about that inconvenient fact.
The Wharton School of Business was the best or tied for best from what I remember. Maybe you are thinking philosophy majors or something
Anonymous wrote:
Penn boosters are really something else, lol. Everyone remembers when Penn was the least desirable Ivy with like a 60%+ acceptance rate only a couple decades ago. Your school is masterful at fabricating history, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if you conveniently forgot about that inconvenient fact.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
Harvard
Stanford
Yale
MIT
Princeton
Columbia
(Wharton)
I’m ok with this, but take out Columbia
Agree Columbia is out
There is a research article about how employers of elite firms view these schools, titled “Ivies, Extracurriculars, and Exclusion: Elite Employers' Use of Educational Credentials,” by Professor Lauren Rivera of Northwestern University.
Here’s a quote from the study:"Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, and University of Pennsylvania (Arts and Sciences) were frequently described as 'second tier' schools that were filled primarily with candidates who 'didn’t get in' to a super-elite school."
In other words, employers from elite investment banks and such generally group both Columbia and Wharton with HYP instead of the rest of the ivies. I think it’s fair to say that both Columbia and Wharton are elite.
No in most finance circles, Wharton is a step above Columbia
Wharton is 3 steps above Columbia!
No one gives an F about Wharton except the people who went there. And certainly no one cares about UPenn.
Certainly more so than Columbia though
The vast majority of people in this country and in the world think UPenn is the state flagship of the state of Pennsylvania. The people who do know only learn about the school midway through high school when they Google which colleges are in the Ivy League and realize that UPenn is one. Absolutely no one thinks of it more highly than Columbia, which has a doubled cachet being the NYC Ivy, is higher ranked, more prestigious, and more selective.
I think ppl consider Penn more prestigious
Sure, in the same way that people consider Brown more prestigious than Harvard.
Columbia is more comparable with Brown
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
Harvard
Stanford
Yale
MIT
Princeton
Columbia
(Wharton)
I’m ok with this, but take out Columbia
Agree Columbia is out
There is a research article about how employers of elite firms view these schools, titled “Ivies, Extracurriculars, and Exclusion: Elite Employers' Use of Educational Credentials,” by Professor Lauren Rivera of Northwestern University.
Here’s a quote from the study:"Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, and University of Pennsylvania (Arts and Sciences) were frequently described as 'second tier' schools that were filled primarily with candidates who 'didn’t get in' to a super-elite school."
In other words, employers from elite investment banks and such generally group both Columbia and Wharton with HYP instead of the rest of the ivies. I think it’s fair to say that both Columbia and Wharton are elite.
No in most finance circles, Wharton is a step above Columbia
Wharton is 3 steps above Columbia!
No one gives an F about Wharton except the people who went there. And certainly no one cares about UPenn.
Certainly more so than Columbia though
The vast majority of people in this country and in the world think UPenn is the state flagship of the state of Pennsylvania. The people who do know only learn about the school midway through high school when they Google which colleges are in the Ivy League and realize that UPenn is one. Absolutely no one thinks of it more highly than Columbia, which has a doubled cachet being the NYC Ivy, is higher ranked, more prestigious, and more selective.
I think ppl consider Penn more prestigious
Sure, in the same way that people consider Brown more prestigious than Harvard.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you asked 12th graders where they'd like to attend college next year, no strings, no admissions gaming:
- Northwestern
- Chicago
- Duke
98 out of 100 would choose Duke.
Same question:
- Northwestern
- Chicago
- Columbia
- Penn
98 out of 100 would choose Columbia or Penn.
I don't care how many apps Chicago and NU receive, I don't care how you [they] twist the admissions data, Chicago and Northwestern are simply not top rung elite. And outside of the Rust Belt, nobody sees Chicago as some aspirational city to live in, let alone settle down in after college. It's fairly stagnant, cold as hell half the year, and the crime is through the roof.
+1
Agree if it's someone from DC. I never even heard of UChicago or Northwestern until after high school. UChicago not until my 30s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you asked 12th graders where they'd like to attend college next year, no strings, no admissions gaming:
- Northwestern
- Chicago
- Duke
98 out of 100 would choose Duke.
Same question:
- Northwestern
- Chicago
- Columbia
- Penn
98 out of 100 would choose Columbia or Penn.
I don't care how many apps Chicago and NU receive, I don't care how you [they] twist the admissions data, Chicago and Northwestern are simply not top rung elite. And outside of the Rust Belt, nobody sees Chicago as some aspirational city to live in, let alone settle down in after college. It's fairly stagnant, cold as hell half the year, and the crime is through the roof.
+1
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
Harvard
Stanford
Yale
MIT
Princeton
Columbia
(Wharton)
I’m ok with this, but take out Columbia
Agree Columbia is out
There is a research article about how employers of elite firms view these schools, titled “Ivies, Extracurriculars, and Exclusion: Elite Employers' Use of Educational Credentials,” by Professor Lauren Rivera of Northwestern University.
Here’s a quote from the study:"Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, and University of Pennsylvania (Arts and Sciences) were frequently described as 'second tier' schools that were filled primarily with candidates who 'didn’t get in' to a super-elite school."
In other words, employers from elite investment banks and such generally group both Columbia and Wharton with HYP instead of the rest of the ivies. I think it’s fair to say that both Columbia and Wharton are elite.
No in most finance circles, Wharton is a step above Columbia
Wharton is 3 steps above Columbia!
No one gives an F about Wharton except the people who went there. And certainly no one cares about UPenn.
Certainly more so than Columbia though
The vast majority of people in this country and in the world think UPenn is the state flagship of the state of Pennsylvania. The people who do know only learn about the school midway through high school when they Google which colleges are in the Ivy League and realize that UPenn is one. Absolutely no one thinks of it more highly than Columbia, which has a doubled cachet being the NYC Ivy, is higher ranked, more prestigious, and more selective.
I think ppl consider Penn more prestigious
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
Harvard
Stanford
Yale
MIT
Princeton
Columbia
(Wharton)
I’m ok with this, but take out Columbia
Agree Columbia is out
There is a research article about how employers of elite firms view these schools, titled “Ivies, Extracurriculars, and Exclusion: Elite Employers' Use of Educational Credentials,” by Professor Lauren Rivera of Northwestern University.
Here’s a quote from the study:"Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, and University of Pennsylvania (Arts and Sciences) were frequently described as 'second tier' schools that were filled primarily with candidates who 'didn’t get in' to a super-elite school."
In other words, employers from elite investment banks and such generally group both Columbia and Wharton with HYP instead of the rest of the ivies. I think it’s fair to say that both Columbia and Wharton are elite.
No in most finance circles, Wharton is a step above Columbia
Wharton is 3 steps above Columbia!
No one gives an F about Wharton except the people who went there. And certainly no one cares about UPenn.
Certainly more so than Columbia though
The vast majority of people in this country and in the world think UPenn is the state flagship of the state of Pennsylvania. The people who do know only learn about the school midway through high school when they Google which colleges are in the Ivy League and realize that UPenn is one. Absolutely no one thinks of it more highly than Columbia, which has a doubled cachet being the NYC Ivy, is higher ranked, more prestigious, and more selective.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Elite:
Harvard
Stanford
Yale
MIT
Princeton
Columbia
(Wharton)
I’m ok with this, but take out Columbia
Agree Columbia is out
+1
Columbia has lots of not so bright kids, as is evident in that other thread started by the Columbia kid giving excuse after excuse.