Anonymous wrote:The problem with this story is that it doesn't even matter....He broke a door handle and was extorted for money at gunpoint to "fix" it, who the f*k cares. Meanwhile crime and murder is rampant throughout Rio even during the games...what a Sh*thole of country if this is what they choose to focus all their energy on.

I think lochte is the one coming out of this looking like shit. This is not a referendum on crime in their country but personally I am impressed that they decided they weren't having it with the swimmers' bs story after they vandalized. Other countries have national pride too, not just the us.

Anonymous wrote:Would any of YOU engage in questionable behavior in Rio and not expect to have a negative encounter with the police? Their laws and law enforcement are not the same as they are here. A shakedown is normal. They were not forced upon threat of injury to give money over (armed robbery), they were coerced through the power of persuasion that authority has to give the storeowner the money they owed him for damages. They should have left well enough alone and shut up about it. Only because Lochte wanted to be some kind of devil may care American hero with his "I didn't get down" story did this even blow up.

They didn't have a negative encounter with police. Two civilians pointed guns at them and made them give them money to fix what they broke BEFORE police could get there.

They were absolutely forced upon threat of injury to give money over - that's what the guns were for!

I get it that Lochte is widely despised and an embarrassment to the US Olympic team. But three things about this story keep my outrage firmly on the side of Brazil:

- Officials have investigated but brought forth no evidence of the damage supposedly done.
- There really can't be a legitimate legal system that allows on-the-spot demand for restitution.
- A five-figure fine for false allegations against the police - again with flimsy "investigation" and no evidence produced, sounds like a very good way to make abusive practices a normal and lucrative racket.

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's the way it happens in Rio, doesn't mean that it's right or ok.

Yes, other countries have different laws and different judicial systems but I think that most rational people can agree that two civiilian men pointing guns at you and demanding that you pay for something is extreme and outrageous.

American laws etc. don't apply in Rio. Don't like it? Don't go to Rio and act like an ass.

The demand wasn't paying for "something". It wasn't a case of "I want this and don't have money, you pay for it." The demand was for damages the athletes caused.

The problem with this story is that it doesn't even matter....He broke a door handle and was extorted for money at gunpoint to "fix" it, who the f*k cares. Meanwhile crime and murder is rampant throughout Rio even during the games...what a Sh*thole of country if this is what they choose to focus all their energy on.

The problem with this story is the Manchild Lochte telling his mother and her opening her big mouth.

Lol Drunk Kenyan runners who speak no english run amok in an American gas station bathroom in the deep south on the 4th of July. That would be equivalent to what happened here.

In the US unless you look like Lochte, you go down like Harambe.

Anonymous wrote:Would any of YOU engage in questionable behavior in Rio and not expect to have a negative encounter with the police? Their laws and law enforcement are not the same as they are here. A shakedown is normal. They were not forced upon threat of injury to give money over (armed robbery), they were coerced through the power of persuasion that authority has to give the storeowner the money they owed him for damages. They should have left well enough alone and shut up about it. Only because Lochte wanted to be some kind of devil may care American hero with his "I didn't get down" story did this even blow up.

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What a stupid discussion. Here police would beat them up, maybe shoot them, well, except they are white....And then to go lying about what happened and make himself a victim? When in a foreign country you need to act respectful, and not like an a**hole.

Would any of YOU engage in questionable behavior in Rio and not expect to have a negative encounter with the police? Their laws and law enforcement are not the same as they are here. A shakedown is normal. They were not forced upon threat of injury to give money over (armed robbery), they were coerced through the power of persuasion that authority has to give the storeowner the money they owed him for damages. They should have left well enough alone and shut up about it. Only because Lochte wanted to be some kind of devil may care American hero with his "I didn't get down" story did this even blow up.

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Anonymous wrote:Just because it's the way it happens in Rio, doesn't mean that it's right or ok.

Yes, other countries have different laws and different judicial systems but I think that most rational people can agree that two civiilian men pointing guns at you and demanding that you pay for something is extreme and outrageous.

I strongly disagree. I find it flat out appalling that those athletes at least one of whom is a very wealthy man(and at 32 a grown ass wealthy man, btw) would trash private property in another country when, one hopes, they wouldn't dream of doing it here. All this while "representing us" at the olympics." Eff that.

You may hope that. I expect that the opposite is actually the case.

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Anonymous wrote:Welcome to Teaching Rednecks the Law and Basic Common Decency! Today's guest believes that every time a foreigner points a gun at him it is robbery. Listen closely as our host explains over and over again why this is wrong.

Lol wow you are slow. No one said that. Pointing a gun at someone and telling them to leave? Not a robbery. Demanding money at gun point? Always a robbery.

Please tell us about your experience in the legal system....OF BRASIL. Because it is a different country and when foreigners are there, even big dopey swimming ones, it is relate to what the Brazilian legal system has to say, not you. And as an aside, even if the security guard is in huge legal trouble it in no way takes away from the precipitating buffoonery.

Even in Brazil, pointing guns at tourists is a bit of a no-no. And it looks a bit extortion-y.

Tourist warranty null and void once they started running amok in the men's room. I have an idea-lets imagine what would happen if the Kenyan runners spoke no English, got super drunk and ripped the bathroom door off at the local Panera in the US. Do you think we'd laugh off their tourist hijinks with them. I don't.

In this country? We'd bill them, not extort payment at gunpoint.in Brazil, shakedowns are extremely common, so the authorities aren't going to get too excited about it. And, as we all can see, the authorities didn't get too excited about the shakedown, beyond wanting their own payment.

Ha! Bill them!

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's the way it happens in Rio, doesn't mean that it's right or ok.

Yes, other countries have different laws and different judicial systems but I think that most rational people can agree that two civiilian men pointing guns at you and demanding that you pay for something is extreme and outrageous.

I strongly disagree. I find it flat out appalling that those athletes at least one of whom is a very wealthy man(and at 32 a grown ass wealthy man, btw) would trash private property in another country when, one hopes, they wouldn't dream of doing it here. All this while "representing us" at the olympics." Eff that.

Just because it's the way it happens in Rio, doesn't mean that it's right or ok.

Yes, other countries have different laws and different judicial systems but I think that most rational people can agree that two civiilian men pointing guns at you and demanding that you pay for something is extreme and outrageous.