Anonymous
05/29/2014 15:22
Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
FSIQ 120
COGAT 120
NNAT 139
GBRS 9
CHANCES IN APPEAL??
COGAT 120
NNAT 139
GBRS 9
CHANCES IN APPEAL??
Anonymous
05/29/2014 15:19
Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
I had posted asking if high WISC more closely correlated to NNAT or Cogat scores.. per this list, it clearly is the NNAT score.
I replied in your thread with my child's scores. I think there are certain students who do not test well on the CogAT the way it is administered. I didn't realize until after my child took it that they read the test to the child. Some (maybe not all?) teachers pause for long periods of time while they wait for all kids to answer. Some kids zone out during this process and miss the next question. Some teachers repeat and some don't. Many kids on the don't understand how to properly score their test paper. In retrospect, it was no surprise to me that my kid did FAR better on the NNAT than CogAT. This was back when they did both in second grade.
Anonymous
05/29/2014 15:01
Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
I had posted asking if high WISC more closely correlated to NNAT or Cogat scores.. per this list, it clearly is the NNAT score.
Anonymous
05/29/2014 14:41
Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
I saw many folks asking about their chances. Some good Samaritan from last yr compiled this list.
the ones w/ "In" posted back on this forum for future AAP parents. The others I guess did not respond...?
the ones w/ "In" posted back on this forum for future AAP parents. The others I guess did not respond...?
Anonymous
05/29/2014 14:33
Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is the updated list with the eligibility decisions so far! I added two more new scores at the end of the list.
1. WISC: VCI 132 PRI 123 WM 120 PS 137 FSIQ 135
GBRS: 8
NNAT 135
FxAT 79%
2. WISC: VCI 124 PRI 141 FSIQ 138
GBRS: 11
IN
3. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 137 WM 129 PS 141 FSIQ 147
GBRS: 8
NNAT: 145
FxAT: 86%
IN
4. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 131 WM 126 PS 128 FSIQ 140
GBRS: 13
NNAT: 135
FxAT: 83%
IN
5. WISC: VCI 128 PRI 120 FSIQ 129
GBRS: 10
6. WISC: FSIQ 144
GBRS: 16
NNAT: 126
FxAT: 76
IN
7. SB: 132
WISC: 133
GBRS: 11
IN
8. WISC: FSIQ 145 VCI 137 PRI 135 WM 130 PS 140
GBRS: 6
NNAT 145
FxAT 78%
IN
9. WISC: VCI 115 PRI 136 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126
GBRS 12
10. WISC: 128 PR 133 WM 126 PS 121 FSIQ 135
GBRS 12
NNAT 156
FxAT 89
IN
11. WISC: VSI 112 PRI 139 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126
12. WISC: FSIQ 129
GBRS 8
13. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 132
GBRS 8
WISC 140 (99.6%), NNAT2 142 (99%), and FxAT 84%
IN
14. WISC: FSIQ 132 VCI 135 PRI 130
GBRS 10
15. WISC: VC 130 PR 127 WM 123 PS 112 FSIQ: 130
GBRS: 13
16. WISC: FSIQ 149 VCI 134 PRI 141 PSI 133
NNAT 139
CogAt 89%
GBRS 6
17. WISC: 150
NNAT:129
CogAt:83%
18. WISC: FSIQ: 123 VCI: 126 PRI: 125
GBRS: 11
19. FSIQ: 134 VCI: 132 PRI: 137 WMI-120 PSI: 112
GBRS: 8
20. WISC: FSIQ 146 VCI: 140 PRI:149 WMI:129 PSI:121
NNAT : 146
GBRS : 6
FxAT : 86%
IN
21. WISC: FSIQ: 124 VCI:119 PRI:125 WMI:120 PSI:109
NNAT: 150
FxAT: 71%
GBRS: 13
IN
22. WISC: FSIQ 130 VCI: 119 PRI 125 WMI: 110 PSI: 139
NNAT: 124
FxAT 89%
23. WISC: FSIQ: 150
NNAT: 151
FxAT: 78%
GBRS: 11
24. WISC 152, VCI=146, PRI=139, WMI=139, PSI=144
GBRS=9
IN
25. WISC : FSIQ 130 VCI:114 PRI 135 WMI: 125 PSI :122
GBRS:10
IN
26. NNAT 139
FX cogat 94%
WISC 133
GBRS 10
IN
27. NNAT 135
FxAT: 96%
VCI: 130, PRI 122
GBRS 6
IN
28. NNAT 99%
WISC 132
GBRS 13
IN
29.NNAT 98%
WISC 119 (very superior PRI and VCI, but very low processing which brought down the number)
GBRS 11
IN
Did we find any pattern for appeal success? We still have several posters who did not report the final decisions. Can people update?
This is for parents looking at appeal success rates. The list is from last year
Were all of these scores posted above successfully appealed, or just the ones w/ IN below them? Tthere appear to be some high WISC scores here w/o "IN" which is why I'm asking.
Anonymous
05/29/2014 14:32
Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What is the logic behind having a kid take the Stanford Binet and WISC in such a short timeframe. Why isn't one sufficient? [/quote]
Since he had no other scores (the ones the school gives due to recent move to the county) so when WISC of 147 got rejected I was advised to take SB to cover for the missing school based tests. [/quote]
What was the score breakdown on the WISC? Is there a notably different subscore? [/quote]
VCI 142
PRI 145
WMI 138
PSI 128
FSIQ 147
SB is 132 with all sub scores in 130 range.[/quote]
[b]Don't understand how can FSIQ be higher than all the individual subscore?! I thought FSIQ is a weighted average of the subscores.[/b][/quote]
This is how it is, the FSIQ is not a very straightforward calculation. You have to know what you are doing that's why is administered by licensed individuals. [/quote]
It isn't an average. For example, it's unusual to have a VCI as high as 142 or a PRI as high as 145, but it's even more unusual to have both of these at their given level, so they would contribute to a FSIQ higher than either one, is my understanding.[/quote]
Were all of these scores posted above successfully appealed, or just the ones w/ IN below them - there appear to be some high WISC scores here which is why I'm asking.
Since he had no other scores (the ones the school gives due to recent move to the county) so when WISC of 147 got rejected I was advised to take SB to cover for the missing school based tests. [/quote]
What was the score breakdown on the WISC? Is there a notably different subscore? [/quote]
VCI 142
PRI 145
WMI 138
PSI 128
FSIQ 147
SB is 132 with all sub scores in 130 range.[/quote]
[b]Don't understand how can FSIQ be higher than all the individual subscore?! I thought FSIQ is a weighted average of the subscores.[/b][/quote]
This is how it is, the FSIQ is not a very straightforward calculation. You have to know what you are doing that's why is administered by licensed individuals. [/quote]
It isn't an average. For example, it's unusual to have a VCI as high as 142 or a PRI as high as 145, but it's even more unusual to have both of these at their given level, so they would contribute to a FSIQ higher than either one, is my understanding.[/quote]
Were all of these scores posted above successfully appealed, or just the ones w/ IN below them - there appear to be some high WISC scores here which is why I'm asking.
Anonymous
05/29/2014 13:53
Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Third Grade and appealing for AAP (Didn't do last year as we were not aware of the process and didn't even request for Cogat this year.Our ignorance)
SB:140
GBRS: 13
What are the chances for getting in.
NNAT was not very good but would they look at NNAT/COGAT from last year or will GBRS/SB suffice.
Thanks
Anonymous
05/29/2014 13:37
Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is the updated list with the eligibility decisions so far! I added two more new scores at the end of the list.
1. WISC: VCI 132 PRI 123 WM 120 PS 137 FSIQ 135
GBRS: 8
NNAT 135
FxAT 79%
2. WISC: VCI 124 PRI 141 FSIQ 138
GBRS: 11
IN
3. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 137 WM 129 PS 141 FSIQ 147
GBRS: 8
NNAT: 145
FxAT: 86%
IN
4. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 131 WM 126 PS 128 FSIQ 140
GBRS: 13
NNAT: 135
FxAT: 83%
IN
5. WISC: VCI 128 PRI 120 FSIQ 129
GBRS: 10
6. WISC: FSIQ 144
GBRS: 16
NNAT: 126
FxAT: 76
IN
7. SB: 132
WISC: 133
GBRS: 11
IN
8. WISC: FSIQ 145 VCI 137 PRI 135 WM 130 PS 140
GBRS: 6
NNAT 145
FxAT 78%
IN
9. WISC: VCI 115 PRI 136 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126
GBRS 12
10. WISC: 128 PR 133 WM 126 PS 121 FSIQ 135
GBRS 12
NNAT 156
FxAT 89
IN
11. WISC: VSI 112 PRI 139 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126
12. WISC: FSIQ 129
GBRS 8
13. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 132
GBRS 8
WISC 140 (99.6%), NNAT2 142 (99%), and FxAT 84%
IN
14. WISC: FSIQ 132 VCI 135 PRI 130
GBRS 10
15. WISC: VC 130 PR 127 WM 123 PS 112 FSIQ: 130
GBRS: 13
16. WISC: FSIQ 149 VCI 134 PRI 141 PSI 133
NNAT 139
CogAt 89%
GBRS 6
17. WISC: 150
NNAT:129
CogAt:83%
18. WISC: FSIQ: 123 VCI: 126 PRI: 125
GBRS: 11
19. FSIQ: 134 VCI: 132 PRI: 137 WMI-120 PSI: 112
GBRS: 8
20. WISC: FSIQ 146 VCI: 140 PRI:149 WMI:129 PSI:121
NNAT : 146
GBRS : 6
FxAT : 86%
IN
21. WISC: FSIQ: 124 VCI:119 PRI:125 WMI:120 PSI:109
NNAT: 150
FxAT: 71%
GBRS: 13
IN
22. WISC: FSIQ 130 VCI: 119 PRI 125 WMI: 110 PSI: 139
NNAT: 124
FxAT 89%
23. WISC: FSIQ: 150
NNAT: 151
FxAT: 78%
GBRS: 11
24. WISC 152, VCI=146, PRI=139, WMI=139, PSI=144
GBRS=9
IN
25. WISC : FSIQ 130 VCI:114 PRI 135 WMI: 125 PSI :122
GBRS:10
IN
26. NNAT 139
FX cogat 94%
WISC 133
GBRS 10
IN
27. NNAT 135
FxAT: 96%
VCI: 130, PRI 122
GBRS 6
IN
28. NNAT 99%
WISC 132
GBRS 13
IN
29.NNAT 98%
WISC 119 (very superior PRI and VCI, but very low processing which brought down the number)
GBRS 11
IN
Did we find any pattern for appeal success? We still have several posters who did not report the final decisions. Can people update?
This is for parents looking at appeal success rates. The list is from last year
Anonymous
05/29/2014 12:50
Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What is the logic behind having a kid take the Stanford Binet and WISC in such a short timeframe. Why isn't one sufficient? [/quote]
Since he had no other scores (the ones the school gives due to recent move to the county) so when WISC of 147 got rejected I was advised to take SB to cover for the missing school based tests. [/quote]
What was the score breakdown on the WISC? Is there a notably different subscore? [/quote]
VCI 142
PRI 145
WMI 138
PSI 128
FSIQ 147
SB is 132 with all sub scores in 130 range.[/quote]
[b]Don't understand how can FSIQ be higher than all the individual subscore?! I thought FSIQ is a weighted average of the subscores.[/b][/quote]
This is how it is, the FSIQ is not a very straightforward calculation. You have to know what you are doing that's why is administered by licensed individuals. [/quote]
It isn't an average. For example, it's unusual to have a VCI as high as 142 or a PRI as high as 145, but it's even more unusual to have both of these at their given level, so they would contribute to a FSIQ higher than either one, is my understanding.
Since he had no other scores (the ones the school gives due to recent move to the county) so when WISC of 147 got rejected I was advised to take SB to cover for the missing school based tests. [/quote]
What was the score breakdown on the WISC? Is there a notably different subscore? [/quote]
VCI 142
PRI 145
WMI 138
PSI 128
FSIQ 147
SB is 132 with all sub scores in 130 range.[/quote]
[b]Don't understand how can FSIQ be higher than all the individual subscore?! I thought FSIQ is a weighted average of the subscores.[/b][/quote]
This is how it is, the FSIQ is not a very straightforward calculation. You have to know what you are doing that's why is administered by licensed individuals. [/quote]
It isn't an average. For example, it's unusual to have a VCI as high as 142 or a PRI as high as 145, but it's even more unusual to have both of these at their given level, so they would contribute to a FSIQ higher than either one, is my understanding.
Anonymous
05/29/2014 12:23
Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:
We are appealing and our DC tool the WISC IV. He has a GBRS of 10. His scores are:
VCI 134
PRI 139
WMI 129
PSI 106
FSIQ 136
What are his chances on an appeal?
I would say it should be good. But I have seen a post here with WISC 147 found not eligible so god knows!
Anonymous
05/29/2014 12:21
Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What is the logic behind having a kid take the Stanford Binet and WISC in such a short timeframe. Why isn't one sufficient? [/quote]
Since he had no other scores (the ones the school gives due to recent move to the county) so when WISC of 147 got rejected I was advised to take SB to cover for the missing school based tests. [/quote]
What was the score breakdown on the WISC? Is there a notably different subscore? [/quote]
VCI 142
PRI 145
WMI 138
PSI 128
FSIQ 147
SB is 132 with all sub scores in 130 range.[/quote]
Don't understand how can FSIQ be higher than all the individual subscore?! I thought FSIQ is a weighted average of the subscores.[/quote]
This is how it is, the FSIQ is not a very straightforward calculation. You have to know what you are doing that's why is administered by licensed individuals.
Since he had no other scores (the ones the school gives due to recent move to the county) so when WISC of 147 got rejected I was advised to take SB to cover for the missing school based tests. [/quote]
What was the score breakdown on the WISC? Is there a notably different subscore? [/quote]
VCI 142
PRI 145
WMI 138
PSI 128
FSIQ 147
SB is 132 with all sub scores in 130 range.[/quote]
Don't understand how can FSIQ be higher than all the individual subscore?! I thought FSIQ is a weighted average of the subscores.[/quote]
This is how it is, the FSIQ is not a very straightforward calculation. You have to know what you are doing that's why is administered by licensed individuals.
Anonymous
05/29/2014 11:36
Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
We are appealing and our DC tool the WISC IV. He has a GBRS of 10. His scores are:
VCI 134
PRI 139
WMI 129
PSI 106
FSIQ 136
What are his chances on an appeal?
Anonymous
05/29/2014 11:26
Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What is the logic behind having a kid take the Stanford Binet and WISC in such a short timeframe. Why isn't one sufficient? [/quote]
Since he had no other scores (the ones the school gives due to recent move to the county) so when WISC of 147 got rejected I was advised to take SB to cover for the missing school based tests. [/quote]
What was the score breakdown on the WISC? Is there a notably different subscore? [/quote]
VCI 142
PRI 145
WMI 138
PSI 128
FSIQ 147
SB is 132 with all sub scores in 130 range.[/quote]
[b]Don't understand how can FSIQ be higher than all the individual subscore?! I thought FSIQ is a weighted average of the subscores[/b].[/quote]
I think the ones that post a higher FSIQ are TROLLS.
Since he had no other scores (the ones the school gives due to recent move to the county) so when WISC of 147 got rejected I was advised to take SB to cover for the missing school based tests. [/quote]
What was the score breakdown on the WISC? Is there a notably different subscore? [/quote]
VCI 142
PRI 145
WMI 138
PSI 128
FSIQ 147
SB is 132 with all sub scores in 130 range.[/quote]
[b]Don't understand how can FSIQ be higher than all the individual subscore?! I thought FSIQ is a weighted average of the subscores[/b].[/quote]
I think the ones that post a higher FSIQ are TROLLS.
Anonymous
05/29/2014 11:08
Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What is the logic behind having a kid take the Stanford Binet and WISC in such a short timeframe. Why isn't one sufficient? [/quote]
Since he had no other scores (the ones the school gives due to recent move to the county) so when WISC of 147 got rejected I was advised to take SB to cover for the missing school based tests. [/quote]
What was the score breakdown on the WISC? Is there a notably different subscore? [/quote]
VCI 142
PRI 145
WMI 138
PSI 128
FSIQ 147
SB is 132 with all sub scores in 130 range.[/quote]
Don't understand how can FSIQ be higher than all the individual subscore?! I thought FSIQ is a weighted average of the subscores.
Since he had no other scores (the ones the school gives due to recent move to the county) so when WISC of 147 got rejected I was advised to take SB to cover for the missing school based tests. [/quote]
What was the score breakdown on the WISC? Is there a notably different subscore? [/quote]
VCI 142
PRI 145
WMI 138
PSI 128
FSIQ 147
SB is 132 with all sub scores in 130 range.[/quote]
Don't understand how can FSIQ be higher than all the individual subscore?! I thought FSIQ is a weighted average of the subscores.
Anonymous
05/28/2014 18:24
Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Super troll! A wisc of 147 is like a unicorn.... almost never seen. No way that a child with a 147 Wisc did not get into AAP. Not a chance in hell. A 147 GUARANTEES admission into AAP. Game set and match.
A 147 is uncommon, but definitely not that rare.
If that's so why didn't he get in? It also amazes me since it's the top %1. So what would they need more?