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Anonymous wrote:Ceasing a Holocaust education program because you’re mad at global Jewry for the acts of the Israeli military is 100% antisemitic.

The fact that any discussion of antisemitism is immediately hijacked by “BUT ISRAEL!!!!!!!” shows exactly what we’re up against.

Maybe stop screaming antisemitism at every little thing and show some caring for others once in a while. Jews are not the only ones who matter in this world

“Every little thing” like… ceasing an existing Holocaust education program because you’re mad at global Jewry, because you hold them all responsible for acts of the Israeli military, you mean?

There is no reason we cannot continue to teach Holocaust history AND care about the ones you think actually “matter in this world”. Your hatred blinds you.

Anonymous wrote:Ceasing a Holocaust education program because you’re mad at global Jewry for the acts of the Israeli military is 100% antisemitic.

The fact that any discussion of antisemitism is immediately hijacked by “BUT ISRAEL!!!!!!!” shows exactly what we’re up against.

Maybe stop screaming antisemitism at every little thing and show some caring for others once in a while. Jews are not the only ones who matter in this world

Ceasing a Holocaust education program because you’re mad at global Jewry for the acts of the Israeli military is 100% antisemitic.

The fact that any discussion of antisemitism is immediately hijacked by “BUT ISRAEL!!!!!!!” shows exactly what we’re up against.

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Anonymous wrote:It will never cease to amaze me that Gaza is literally starving to death right now - food is so scarce and baby formula is pretty much all gone… and here some people are debating some wishy washy claims that can’t be proven or verified bc some privileged people have found ways to continue to center themselves during a genocide. And we wonder why the world is irredeemable and the future is bleak for all our kids. Well done.

This. Half the world could be dying of war and starvation but we must focus on remembering the Holocaust. Does anyone else besides Jewish people matter to some of you?

I get your point but trauma can make people self-centered. Jews are a traumatized population.

They are not the only traumatized people FFS.

True. But the only group in the last century where 6 million of its members died because of attempted systematic state-sponsored genocide. .

Look, I think Nysmith did a very bad job here, but that's a weirdly specific metric. Yes, Jews are the only group in the last century where 6 million people were killed due to attempted genocide.

Okay. But Armenians are the only group who lost 1.5 million people in a state sponsored genocide.

Romani are the only group who were almost entirely wiped out during the Holocaust because they were so concentrated in Europe and so few in number anyway.

Tutsis are the only group that lost a million members in a three months.

Chechens are the only group that lost most boys and men ages 16+

If you draw a specific line, you can make any atrocity unique.

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Anonymous wrote:It will never cease to amaze me that Gaza is literally starving to death right now - food is so scarce and baby formula is pretty much all gone… and here some people are debating some wishy washy claims that can’t be proven or verified bc some privileged people have found ways to continue to center themselves during a genocide. And we wonder why the world is irredeemable and the future is bleak for all our kids. Well done.

This. Half the world could be dying of war and starvation but we must focus on remembering the Holocaust. Does anyone else besides Jewish people matter to some of you?

I get your point but trauma can make people self-centered. Jews are a traumatized population.

They are not the only traumatized people FFS.

True. But the only group in the last century where 6 million of its members died because of attempted systematic state-sponsored genocide. .

Stalin in Russia and Mao in China killed around 50 million each. Every fourth Cambodian was killed in their genocide. Around 3 million died during India and Pakistan's partition by British etc. That being said, point isn't to minimize holocaust but highlighting that its not the only trauma worth mentioning. That's an insensitive.

Not minimizing those horrific killings, but Stalin, Mao, and the Khmer Rouge committed auto-genocides.

Really PP? Do you think those victims make a distinction on what you call it. For the survivors it was genocide and traumatic.

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Anonymous wrote:It will never cease to amaze me that Gaza is literally starving to death right now - food is so scarce and baby formula is pretty much all gone… and here some people are debating some wishy washy claims that can’t be proven or verified bc some privileged people have found ways to continue to center themselves during a genocide. And we wonder why the world is irredeemable and the future is bleak for all our kids. Well done.

This. Half the world could be dying of war and starvation but we must focus on remembering the Holocaust. Does anyone else besides Jewish people matter to some of you?

I get your point but trauma can make people self-centered. Jews are a traumatized population.

They are not the only traumatized people FFS.

True. But the only group in the last century where 6 million of its members died because of attempted systematic state-sponsored genocide. .

Mao and Pol Pot said you’re not serious. China Holocaust up to 70 million deaths. Cambodia Holocaust more than 7 million deaths.

Anonymous wrote:Nobody anywhere on this thread has said schools should stop teaching history in general or about the Holocaust specifically.

This actual thread refers to Nysmith ceasing their Holocaust remembrance program because of fears that it will make some people uncomfortable. Despite the fact that a few posters have hijacked it to blather about how Jewish people, according to them, are homicidal maniacs.

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Anonymous wrote:It will never cease to amaze me that Gaza is literally starving to death right now - food is so scarce and baby formula is pretty much all gone… and here some people are debating some wishy washy claims that can’t be proven or verified bc some privileged people have found ways to continue to center themselves during a genocide. And we wonder why the world is irredeemable and the future is bleak for all our kids. Well done.

This. Half the world could be dying of war and starvation but we must focus on remembering the Holocaust. Does anyone else besides Jewish people matter to some of you?

I get your point but trauma can make people self-centered. Jews are a traumatized population.

They are definitely not the only traumatized population of the world. And still, they are now traumatizing another population of people.

Nobody anywhere on this thread has said schools should stop teaching history in general or about the Holocaust specifically.

Schools should never stop teaching history. Full stop. No discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:It will never cease to amaze me that Gaza is literally starving to death right now - food is so scarce and baby formula is pretty much all gone… and here some people are debating some wishy washy claims that can’t be proven or verified bc some privileged people have found ways to continue to center themselves during a genocide. And we wonder why the world is irredeemable and the future is bleak for all our kids. Well done.

This. Half the world could be dying of war and starvation but we must focus on remembering the Holocaust. Does anyone else besides Jewish people matter to some of you?

I get your point but trauma can make people self-centered. Jews are a traumatized population.

They are not the only traumatized people FFS.

True. But the only group in the last century where 6 million of its members died because of attempted systematic state-sponsored genocide. .

And now many members of that group act as if they have earned the right to kill up to 6 million other people, most of whom had nothing to do with their Holocaust, with no questions permitted. It is absolutely repulsive.

So we should punish Jews by ceasing to teach the Holocaust?

You are sick in the head. This saves no Palestinian lives. It just shows that SIX MILLION Jewish lives mean nothing to you.

Education isn’t a zero sum game, and we shouldn't stop teaching history because we’re scared it might accidentally make someone sympathetic to Israel.

Anonymous wrote:The dialogue has veered pretty far off course. If this type of debate caused what happened at Nysmith, thank God my kids to not go there!

What a weird thing to say. Totally ungrammatical, too.

Debates don’t cause administrators to make stupid decisions.

The dialogue has veered pretty far off course. If this type of debate caused what happened at Nysmith, thank God my kids to not go there!

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Anonymous wrote:It will never cease to amaze me that Gaza is literally starving to death right now - food is so scarce and baby formula is pretty much all gone… and here some people are debating some wishy washy claims that can’t be proven or verified bc some privileged people have found ways to continue to center themselves during a genocide. And we wonder why the world is irredeemable and the future is bleak for all our kids. Well done.

This. Half the world could be dying of war and starvation but we must focus on remembering the Holocaust. Does anyone else besides Jewish people matter to some of you?

I get your point but trauma can make people self-centered. Jews are a traumatized population.

They are not the only traumatized people FFS.

True. But the only group in the last century where 6 million of its members died because of attempted systematic state-sponsored genocide. .

Stalin in Russia and Mao in China killed around 50 million each. Every fourth Cambodian was killed in their genocide. Around 3 million died during India and Pakistan's partition by British etc. That being said, point isn't to minimize holocaust but highlighting that its not the only trauma worth mentioning. That's an insensitive.

Not minimizing those horrific killings, but Stalin, Mao, and the Khmer Rouge committed auto-genocides.

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Anonymous wrote:It will never cease to amaze me that Gaza is literally starving to death right now - food is so scarce and baby formula is pretty much all gone… and here some people are debating some wishy washy claims that can’t be proven or verified bc some privileged people have found ways to continue to center themselves during a genocide. And we wonder why the world is irredeemable and the future is bleak for all our kids. Well done.

This. Half the world could be dying of war and starvation but we must focus on remembering the Holocaust. Does anyone else besides Jewish people matter to some of you?

I get your point but trauma can make people self-centered. Jews are a traumatized population.

They are not the only traumatized people FFS.

True. But the only group in the last century where 6 million of its members died because of attempted systematic state-sponsored genocide. .

Stalin in Russia and Mao in China killed around 50 million each. Every fourth Cambodian was killed in their genocide. Around 3 million died during India and Pakistan's partition by British etc. That being said, point isn't to minimize holocaust but highlighting that its not the only trauma worth mentioning. That's an insensitive.