Anonymous
Post 06/08/2025 19:27     Subject: Re:Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

I hear insurrection...

Anonymous
Post 06/08/2025 19:22     Subject: Re:Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

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Anonymous wrote: Note that we have heard from ZERO California leaders - state or federal - telling the mob to stop the violence.

Silence from them. Pathetic


Then you are not paying attention. Find better sources of information.


Exactly, flying off the handle in a tantrum is what they do and what they expect. The GOV has to be methodical.

He just released a statement:

“I have formally requested the Trump Administration rescind their unlawful deployment of troops in Los Angeles county and return them to my command.

We didn’t have a problem until Trump got involved. This is a serious breach of state sovereignty — inflaming tensions while pulling resources from where they’re actually needed.

Rescind the order. Return control to California.”
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2025 19:22     Subject: Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

Isn't this insurrection too?.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2025 19:20     Subject: Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

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Anonymous wrote:From the news, I see that DHS and ice are preparing to attack peaceful protesters in Los Angeles. It should be a very interesting evening. I hope at least some of them recall the oath that they took to protect the constitution of the United States of America and not a corrupt fascist president.


Have you seen the videos of protesters throwing rocks at government vehicles as they're driving by? Smashing out the drivers side window? They're waving Mexican flags and burning the American flag. These are not peaceful protests.

I tried to post a video but it was deleted. Not sure why.


I’ve seen them. Disgusting. And the FBI is hoping to ID the people doing it.

I also saw a video posted from the inside of a vehicle from the perspective of law enforcement. Truly scary. Amazing nobody was seriously hurt or killed.


Here it is.



OMG - that is terrifying!

Unbelievable that the democrats like Mayor Bass are actually encouraging this.


The really terrifying thing is they look like military soldiers driving around in a military vehicle with gas masks on in an American city. No wonder the people are terrified. That is total overkill and please do not do that.


They're dressed like that to stay safe from the violent rioters.


There weren't rioters. There were protesters doing what protestors are legally allowed to do. It was the ICE people who escalated the situation because they are snowflakes and are not trained for the mission they are being given.



People throwing rocks at vehicles in motion (and smashing out the windows) are not rioters? Are you really this dim, or just trolling on a rainy Sunday night?


They didn't go there to riot. They didn't have weapons. It was ICE that escalated things to the point that people felt threatened by armed ICE officers and had to defend themselves.


The rioters came with helmets and hammers and bricks. Don’t gaslight us.


They were at a freaking Home Depot and bought the hammers and bricks there and then ICE inflamed things.


Oh please. There is no excuse for what this mob is doing. None.


That raving liberal, Bill Kristol, disagrees with you

You know when things were pretty quiet and peaceful in L.A.? Before ICE started arresting residents who were bothering no one and going to their jobs. And before DHS and National Guard troops showed up and made the situation worse.

Of course Trump and Stephen Miller want the situation to get worse.






He must have been watching MSNBC and missed the rocks being thrown at ICE and the cars being set on fire and the fact that it took Karen Bass over 2 hours to send police assistance to ICE agents who were surrounded by a mob.
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Post 06/08/2025 19:19     Subject: Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

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Anonymous wrote:From the news, I see that DHS and ice are preparing to attack peaceful protesters in Los Angeles. It should be a very interesting evening. I hope at least some of them recall the oath that they took to protect the constitution of the United States of America and not a corrupt fascist president.


Have you seen the videos of protesters throwing rocks at government vehicles as they're driving by? Smashing out the drivers side window? They're waving Mexican flags and burning the American flag. These are not peaceful protests.

I tried to post a video but it was deleted. Not sure why.


I’ve seen them. Disgusting. And the FBI is hoping to ID the people doing it.

I also saw a video posted from the inside of a vehicle from the perspective of law enforcement. Truly scary. Amazing nobody was seriously hurt or killed.


Here it is.



OMG - that is terrifying!

Unbelievable that the democrats like Mayor Bass are actually encouraging this.


The really terrifying thing is they look like military soldiers driving around in a military vehicle with gas masks on in an American city. No wonder the people are terrified. That is total overkill and please do not do that.


They're dressed like that to stay safe from the violent rioters.


There weren't rioters. There were protesters doing what protestors are legally allowed to do. It was the ICE people who escalated the situation because they are snowflakes and are not trained for the mission they are being given.



People throwing rocks at vehicles in motion (and smashing out the windows) are not rioters? Are you really this dim, or just trolling on a rainy Sunday night?


They didn't go there to riot. They didn't have weapons. It was ICE that escalated things to the point that people felt threatened by armed ICE officers and had to defend themselves.


The rioters came with helmets and hammers and bricks. Don’t gaslight us.


They were at a freaking Home Depot and bought the hammers and bricks there and then ICE inflamed things.


Oh please. There is no excuse for what this mob is doing. None.


That raving liberal, Bill Kristol, disagrees with you

You know when things were pretty quiet and peaceful in L.A.? Before ICE started arresting residents who were bothering no one and going to their jobs. And before DHS and National Guard troops showed up and made the situation worse.

Of course Trump and Stephen Miller want the situation to get worse.






Can you clarify if they should be allowed here?



Bill Kristol, about as traditional conservative as it gets, makes a statement. No one is supporting people here illegally - democrats or republicans. There is a right and wrong way to go about this. Obama and Biden did it the right way and got 5x better results than Trump did. Now, Trump is using it to become an authoritarian. You know what, Trump presents a bigger risk to me and my family than any of the "illegals" who are here simply providing for their families. Yes, the violent and criminal elements have to be rooted out and deported. That isn't what Trump and his regime are doing. Can you admit that?
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Post 06/08/2025 19:19     Subject: Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

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Anonymous wrote:From the news, I see that DHS and ice are preparing to attack peaceful protesters in Los Angeles. It should be a very interesting evening. I hope at least some of them recall the oath that they took to protect the constitution of the United States of America and not a corrupt fascist president.


Have you seen the videos of protesters throwing rocks at government vehicles as they're driving by? Smashing out the drivers side window? They're waving Mexican flags and burning the American flag. These are not peaceful protests.

I tried to post a video but it was deleted. Not sure why.


I’ve seen them. Disgusting. And the FBI is hoping to ID the people doing it.

I also saw a video posted from the inside of a vehicle from the perspective of law enforcement. Truly scary. Amazing nobody was seriously hurt or killed.


Here it is.



OMG - that is terrifying!

Unbelievable that the democrats like Mayor Bass are actually encouraging this.


The really terrifying thing is they look like military soldiers driving around in a military vehicle with gas masks on in an American city. No wonder the people are terrified. That is total overkill and please do not do that.


They're dressed like that to stay safe from the violent rioters.


There weren't rioters. There were protesters doing what protestors are legally allowed to do. It was the ICE people who escalated the situation because they are snowflakes and are not trained for the mission they are being given.



People throwing rocks at vehicles in motion (and smashing out the windows) are not rioters? Are you really this dim, or just trolling on a rainy Sunday night?


They didn't go there to riot. They didn't have weapons. It was ICE that escalated things to the point that people felt threatened by armed ICE officers and had to defend themselves.


The rioters came with helmets and hammers and bricks. Don’t gaslight us.


It was Trump feds disguised as anti-ICE protesters. Don't gaslight us.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2025 19:16     Subject: Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

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Clearly the status quo is untenable, but rather than have a rational discussion you all seem to jump to calling names.
Really, that would be Trump, sista.

If the GOP hadn't, on multiple occasions over the last 30 years, killed immigration reform including more administrative judges, we wouldn't be here right now having this exchange.
Exactly!

The problem is that people never want to invest in the actually important stuff:

1. More employees at all levels to process immigration claims AND more personnel to man the southern border IT WAS IN THE BILL.

AND a very expensive wall that will help to keep out walk-ins. All at a pretty stupendous cost. Mexico, you there?

2. More employees at IRS. Studies have shown that additions to the IRS workforce generate multiple times more monies recovered than the additional cost of labor. Dept of Government Deficiency said no.

2 can fund 1. But do we do this?
No, because the left doesn't want to hear about pushing out migrants, FALSE
and the right doesn't want to hear about processing immigration claims quickly or recovering taxes from GOP delinquents. TRUE

We've got to work together, people!


We? Let’s take a long look back…

Republicans have been unwilling to act on comprehensive immigration reform for nearly two decades.

2024: House Republicans were handed a bipartisan reform bill written by their own conservative Senator (Lankford). Trump “encouraged” senators to kill-the-bill so he he campaign on immigration.

2023: House Republicans voted against border security funding in FY22 and FY23 and a supplemental request for border security funds

2021: House Republicans refused to act on immigration reform bills that would have protected DACA holders, Temporary Protected Status immigrants, and undocumented farmworkers. Senate Republicans also blocked these bills.

2017: Mitch McConnell and Republicans could have rewritten immigration law but didn't, choosing to criticize the Obama administration's handling of DACA instead. Also, McConnell publicly stated “he’d make sure Obama was a one term president.” That didn’t happen. Old, miserable racist with egg an his face. (Name calling🚨)

2013: Obama’s 2nd term— A proposal passed the Senate 68 to 32 with strong bipartisan support. (🚨) Alcoholic Speaker John Boehner refused to bring it to the floor for a vote because a majority of House Republicans weren’t going to give a black president the win.

* Congressional Republicans have refused to engage in meaningful policy changes on immigration since passing the Secure Fence Act in 2006.
* Congressional Republicans use immigration as a political weapon to divide the American people
* Congressional Republicans shifted to restrictionist and xenophobic rhetoric after the rise of the Tea Party movement
* Congressional Republicans prefer running on rhetoric rather than adopting a platform on immigration
* Congressional Republicans prefer enforcing existing laws and addressing border security before considering broader reform. 

I dunno. So many sources. Brookings is legit. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-collapse-of-bipartisan-immigration-reform-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/#:~:text=Galston-,William%20A.,Zilkha%20Chair%20in%20Governance%20Studies&text=The%20last%20comprehensive%20immigration%20reform,2025%20to%20address%20border%20security.


Great post, but it omits the several attempts going back to Reagan where the GOP refused to act.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2025 19:15     Subject: Re:Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

Anonymous wrote: Note that we have heard from ZERO California leaders - state or federal - telling the mob to stop the violence.

Silence from them. Pathetic


Then you are not paying attention. Find better sources of information.
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Post 06/08/2025 19:15     Subject: Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

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Anonymous wrote:From the news, I see that DHS and ice are preparing to attack peaceful protesters in Los Angeles. It should be a very interesting evening. I hope at least some of them recall the oath that they took to protect the constitution of the United States of America and not a corrupt fascist president.


Have you seen the videos of protesters throwing rocks at government vehicles as they're driving by? Smashing out the drivers side window? They're waving Mexican flags and burning the American flag. These are not peaceful protests.

I tried to post a video but it was deleted. Not sure why.


I’ve seen them. Disgusting. And the FBI is hoping to ID the people doing it.

I also saw a video posted from the inside of a vehicle from the perspective of law enforcement. Truly scary. Amazing nobody was seriously hurt or killed.


Here it is.



OMG - that is terrifying!

Unbelievable that the democrats like Mayor Bass are actually encouraging this.


The really terrifying thing is they look like military soldiers driving around in a military vehicle with gas masks on in an American city. No wonder the people are terrified. That is total overkill and please do not do that.


They're dressed like that to stay safe from the violent rioters.


There weren't rioters. There were protesters doing what protestors are legally allowed to do. It was the ICE people who escalated the situation because they are snowflakes and are not trained for the mission they are being given.



People throwing rocks at vehicles in motion (and smashing out the windows) are not rioters? Are you really this dim, or just trolling on a rainy Sunday night?


They didn't go there to riot. They didn't have weapons. It was ICE that escalated things to the point that people felt threatened by armed ICE officers and had to defend themselves.


The rioters came with helmets and hammers and bricks. Don’t gaslight us.


They were at a freaking Home Depot and bought the hammers and bricks there and then ICE inflamed things.


Oh please. There is no excuse for what this mob is doing. None.


That raving liberal, Bill Kristol, disagrees with you

You know when things were pretty quiet and peaceful in L.A.? Before ICE started arresting residents who were bothering no one and going to their jobs. And before DHS and National Guard troops showed up and made the situation worse.

Of course Trump and Stephen Miller want the situation to get worse.






Can you clarify if they should be allowed here?

Anonymous
Post 06/08/2025 19:14     Subject: Re:Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

Anonymous wrote: Note that we have heard from ZERO California leaders - state or federal - telling the mob to stop the violence.

Silence from them. Pathetic


Silence is violence
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Post 06/08/2025 19:13     Subject: Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

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Anonymous wrote:From the news, I see that DHS and ice are preparing to attack peaceful protesters in Los Angeles. It should be a very interesting evening. I hope at least some of them recall the oath that they took to protect the constitution of the United States of America and not a corrupt fascist president.


Have you seen the videos of protesters throwing rocks at government vehicles as they're driving by? Smashing out the drivers side window? They're waving Mexican flags and burning the American flag. These are not peaceful protests.

I tried to post a video but it was deleted. Not sure why.


I’ve seen them. Disgusting. And the FBI is hoping to ID the people doing it.

I also saw a video posted from the inside of a vehicle from the perspective of law enforcement. Truly scary. Amazing nobody was seriously hurt or killed.


Here it is.



OMG - that is terrifying!

Unbelievable that the democrats like Mayor Bass are actually encouraging this.


The really terrifying thing is they look like military soldiers driving around in a military vehicle with gas masks on in an American city. No wonder the people are terrified. That is total overkill and please do not do that.


They're dressed like that to stay safe from the violent rioters.


There weren't rioters. There were protesters doing what protestors are legally allowed to do. It was the ICE people who escalated the situation because they are snowflakes and are not trained for the mission they are being given.



People throwing rocks at vehicles in motion (and smashing out the windows) are not rioters? Are you really this dim, or just trolling on a rainy Sunday night?


They didn't go there to riot. They didn't have weapons. It was ICE that escalated things to the point that people felt threatened by armed ICE officers and had to defend themselves.


The rioters came with helmets and hammers and bricks. Don’t gaslight us.


They were at a freaking Home Depot and bought the hammers and bricks there and then ICE inflamed things.


Oh please. There is no excuse for what this mob is doing. None.


That raving liberal, Bill Kristol, disagrees with you

You know when things were pretty quiet and peaceful in L.A.? Before ICE started arresting residents who were bothering no one and going to their jobs. And before DHS and National Guard troops showed up and made the situation worse.

Of course Trump and Stephen Miller want the situation to get worse.




Anonymous
Post 06/08/2025 19:12     Subject: Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

Clearly the status quo is untenable, but rather than have a rational discussion you all seem to jump to calling names.
Really, that would be Trump, sista.

If the GOP hadn't, on multiple occasions over the last 30 years, killed immigration reform including more administrative judges, we wouldn't be here right now having this exchange.
Exactly!

The problem is that people never want to invest in the actually important stuff:

1. More employees at all levels to process immigration claims AND more personnel to man the southern border IT WAS IN THE BILL.

AND a very expensive wall that will help to keep out walk-ins. All at a pretty stupendous cost. Mexico, you there?

2. More employees at IRS. Studies have shown that additions to the IRS workforce generate multiple times more monies recovered than the additional cost of labor. Dept of Government Deficiency said no.

2 can fund 1. But do we do this?
No, because the left doesn't want to hear about pushing out migrants, FALSE
and the right doesn't want to hear about processing immigration claims quickly or recovering taxes from GOP delinquents. TRUE

We've got to work together, people!


We? Let’s take a long look back…

Republicans have been unwilling to act on comprehensive immigration reform for nearly two decades.

2024: House Republicans were handed a bipartisan reform bill written by their own conservative Senator (Lankford). Trump “encouraged” senators to kill-the-bill so he he campaign on immigration.

2023: House Republicans voted against border security funding in FY22 and FY23 and a supplemental request for border security funds

2021: House Republicans refused to act on immigration reform bills that would have protected DACA holders, Temporary Protected Status immigrants, and undocumented farmworkers. Senate Republicans also blocked these bills.

2017: Mitch McConnell and Republicans could have rewritten immigration law but didn't, choosing to criticize the Obama administration's handling of DACA instead. Also, McConnell publicly stated “he’d make sure Obama was a one term president.” That didn’t happen. Old, miserable racist with egg an his face. (Name calling🚨)

2013: Obama’s 2nd term— A proposal passed the Senate 68 to 32 with strong bipartisan support. (🚨) Alcoholic Speaker John Boehner refused to bring it to the floor for a vote because a majority of House Republicans weren’t going to give a black president the win.

* Congressional Republicans have refused to engage in meaningful policy changes on immigration since passing the Secure Fence Act in 2006.
* Congressional Republicans use immigration as a political weapon to divide the American people
* Congressional Republicans shifted to restrictionist and xenophobic rhetoric after the rise of the Tea Party movement
* Congressional Republicans prefer running on rhetoric rather than adopting a platform on immigration
* Congressional Republicans prefer enforcing existing laws and addressing border security before considering broader reform. 

I dunno. So many sources. Brookings is legit. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-collapse-of-bipartisan-immigration-reform-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/#:~:text=Galston-,William%20A.,Zilkha%20Chair%20in%20Governance%20Studies&text=The%20last%20comprehensive%20immigration%20reform,2025%20to%20address%20border%20security.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2025 19:12     Subject: Re:Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

Note that we have heard from ZERO California leaders - state or federal - telling the mob to stop the violence.

Silence from them. Pathetic
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2025 19:11     Subject: Re:Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

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Post 06/08/2025 19:10     Subject: Re:Why is the media not covering ICE resistance in LA?

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Burning police cars is peaceful. -democrats