Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 21:23     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
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Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


I think people will find this happens at many schools.


I think they are all do nothing admins. Seriously....when do they do anything for students or staff-it's all FCPS jargon and talking all around the issues-but never really taking care of them. It's like they are programmed by FCPS. Really think about it-think how admins speak to parents and in many cases try to avoid parents/student concerns/issues. It's like this with staff as well...they are all the same. Robots. I'm not Navy but I guarantee the new principal is just falling in line with what FCPS demands. Do nothing, say nothing, hear nothing...and most importantly put nothing in writing. FCPS is failing students and staff but they work hard and pay good money to never admit the issues.


I think you are spot on.


100% agree.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 20:20     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


I think people will find this happens at many schools.


I think they are all do nothing admins. Seriously....when do they do anything for students or staff-it's all FCPS jargon and talking all around the issues-but never really taking care of them. It's like they are programmed by FCPS. Really think about it-think how admins speak to parents and in many cases try to avoid parents/student concerns/issues. It's like this with staff as well...they are all the same. Robots. I'm not Navy but I guarantee the new principal is just falling in line with what FCPS demands. Do nothing, say nothing, hear nothing...and most importantly put nothing in writing. FCPS is failing students and staff but they work hard and pay good money to never admit the issues.


I think you are spot on.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 19:42     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


I think people will find this happens at many schools.


I think they are all do nothing admins. Seriously....when do they do anything for students or staff-it's all FCPS jargon and talking all around the issues-but never really taking care of them. It's like they are programmed by FCPS. Really think about it-think how admins speak to parents and in many cases try to avoid parents/student concerns/issues. It's like this with staff as well...they are all the same. Robots. I'm not Navy but I guarantee the new principal is just falling in line with what FCPS demands. Do nothing, say nothing, hear nothing...and most importantly put nothing in writing. FCPS is failing students and staff but they work hard and pay good money to never admit the issues.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 19:20     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Was this drone kid who fly drone in girl bathroom
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 17:53     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


Regarding the last paragraph - that’s not a problem with HIM, necessarily. That is an FCPS problem. There are NO consequences. NONE. And that comes from the top. And if you’re a new principal or a rule-follower, then you will follow the county rules regarding consequences. They have to report everything- right down to how many and “which” kids get lunch detention and then admin gets “in trouble” for too many kids getting consequences. Admin seems to be as micro-managed as teachers are.


Exactly. This is what I think most parents don’t understand. In many cases the admin’s hands are tied - they literally can’t discipline certain students due to their IEPs or what not. So you may have a chair thrower and the whole class has to leave instead of the chair thrower leaving. Parents get up in arms and complain about a particular student and nothing gets done. It can literally take years before parents will agree to testing or a different placement and sometimes not at all. Teachers are frustrated understandably and the blame gets put on the admin for not doing anything about it. It’s a tough situation.


THIS is what the school board needs to be discussing.


Is this what happened at Navy this past year?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 16:51     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


Regarding the last paragraph - that’s not a problem with HIM, necessarily. That is an FCPS problem. There are NO consequences. NONE. And that comes from the top. And if you’re a new principal or a rule-follower, then you will follow the county rules regarding consequences. They have to report everything- right down to how many and “which” kids get lunch detention and then admin gets “in trouble” for too many kids getting consequences. Admin seems to be as micro-managed as teachers are.


Exactly. This is what I think most parents don’t understand. In many cases the admin’s hands are tied - they literally can’t discipline certain students due to their IEPs or what not. So you may have a chair thrower and the whole class has to leave instead of the chair thrower leaving. Parents get up in arms and complain about a particular student and nothing gets done. It can literally take years before parents will agree to testing or a different placement and sometimes not at all. Teachers are frustrated understandably and the blame gets put on the admin for not doing anything about it. It’s a tough situation.


THIS is what the school board needs to be discussing.


It won’t happen because this comes down from state and federal policy. Look up IDEA laws, not following them and other special education and documenting to the letter could get you investigated by the Office of Civil Rights from the federal Department Of Education
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 16:38     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


Regarding the last paragraph - that’s not a problem with HIM, necessarily. That is an FCPS problem. There are NO consequences. NONE. And that comes from the top. And if you’re a new principal or a rule-follower, then you will follow the county rules regarding consequences. They have to report everything- right down to how many and “which” kids get lunch detention and then admin gets “in trouble” for too many kids getting consequences. Admin seems to be as micro-managed as teachers are.


Exactly. This is what I think most parents don’t understand. In many cases the admin’s hands are tied - they literally can’t discipline certain students due to their IEPs or what not. So you may have a chair thrower and the whole class has to leave instead of the chair thrower leaving. Parents get up in arms and complain about a particular student and nothing gets done. It can literally take years before parents will agree to testing or a different placement and sometimes not at all. Teachers are frustrated understandably and the blame gets put on the admin for not doing anything about it. It’s a tough situation.


THIS is what the school board needs to be discussing.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 16:38     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


Regarding the last paragraph - that’s not a problem with HIM, necessarily. That is an FCPS problem. There are NO consequences. NONE. And that comes from the top. And if you’re a new principal or a rule-follower, then you will follow the county rules regarding consequences. They have to report everything- right down to how many and “which” kids get lunch detention and then admin gets “in trouble” for too many kids getting consequences. Admin seems to be as micro-managed as teachers are.


Exactly. This is what I think most parents don’t understand. In many cases the admin’s hands are tied - they literally can’t discipline certain students due to their IEPs or what not. So you may have a chair thrower and the whole class has to leave instead of the chair thrower leaving. Parents get up in arms and complain about a particular student and nothing gets done. It can literally take years before parents will agree to testing or a different placement and sometimes not at all. Teachers are frustrated understandably and the blame gets put on the admin for not doing anything about it. It’s a tough situation.


We have had an advocate sent after me and a special ed teacher because the student got into a fist fight in class and got half day ISS. The child charging at another kid was apparently my fault. There are a lot of competing interests in public education which is a big part of the problem, you simply cannot please everyone.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 15:53     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


Regarding the last paragraph - that’s not a problem with HIM, necessarily. That is an FCPS problem. There are NO consequences. NONE. And that comes from the top. And if you’re a new principal or a rule-follower, then you will follow the county rules regarding consequences. They have to report everything- right down to how many and “which” kids get lunch detention and then admin gets “in trouble” for too many kids getting consequences. Admin seems to be as micro-managed as teachers are.


Exactly. This is what I think most parents don’t understand. In many cases the admin’s hands are tied - they literally can’t discipline certain students due to their IEPs or what not. So you may have a chair thrower and the whole class has to leave instead of the chair thrower leaving. Parents get up in arms and complain about a particular student and nothing gets done. It can literally take years before parents will agree to testing or a different placement and sometimes not at all. Teachers are frustrated understandably and the blame gets put on the admin for not doing anything about it. It’s a tough situation.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 15:05     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:


Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


Regarding the last paragraph - that’s not a problem with HIM, necessarily. That is an FCPS problem. There are NO consequences. NONE. And that comes from the top. And if you’re a new principal or a rule-follower, then you will follow the county rules regarding consequences. They have to report everything- right down to how many and “which” kids get lunch detention and then admin gets “in trouble” for too many kids getting consequences. Admin seems to be as micro-managed as teachers are.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 14:38     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


This is happening all over FCPS. Unfortunately Navy got some bad eggs recently so behaviors in some classes weren’t good. Do you blame the teachers for the behaviors? No. Likewise, you can’t blame the admin. This could easily have happened under Jon. It doesn’t mean our new principal isn’t fit to be a principal.


Some of these kids need a good whoopin.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 14:25     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


This is happening all over FCPS. Unfortunately Navy got some bad eggs recently so behaviors in some classes weren’t good. Do you blame the teachers for the behaviors? No. Likewise, you can’t blame the admin. This could easily have happened under Jon. It doesn’t mean our new principal isn’t fit to be a principal.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 12:07     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


I think people will find this happens at many schools.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 12:05     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.


I have to say, I had this exact same experience with Jon.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 11:50     Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:

Fair enough. It’s also possible things will settle down as he continues to get his feet wet. We don’t know. I do know that many of the new teachers he hired were very popular with the community. I know my kid had a great year at Navy this past year. We liked the new principal. I believe he didn’t get swayed by gossip or the clique and probably held teachers accountable to some new standards they weren’t used to. I also know there were some tough classes with certain kids with severe behavioral issues - I’m sure that played a part as well.


I will add that holding teachers accountable is not the reason for departures. He's not a mean person nor is he a micro manager. I'm finger pointing at you but comments posted by others saying the staff was lazy and lax under Jon and didn't like being held at a different standard under the current regime is completly untrue.

Since you mentioned it, I will say you are spot on with some behavioral issues. Multiple repeat instances where things were escalated to Admin and nothing was done or handled. His personality seems like he's non-confrontational and passive. But in a leadership postion, you need to support your staff and take charge.