Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ll wait to see DaPape’s own testimony from his own mouth before I decide what this actually was.
His testimony from his own mouth is out for you to read, how will you move the goalposts now?
DP — To be clear it is not a transcription. However, I believe the FBI agent who prepared the statement document was honest and accurate.
The FBI typically doesn’t record and transcribe interviews. Agents take notes from which the prepare a “302” summary.
Thanks, hot shot. The PP said that what was documented was “from his own mouth” which implies that what was written was verbatim. I accept that the agent was honest and accurate but that PP was wrong.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He lived in the garage at Richmond Street. The guy was essentially homeless.
He was also in the country illegally.
Anonymous wrote:I’ll wait to see DaPape’s own testimony from his own mouth before I decide what this actually was.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my understanding from that statement was after Pelosi let the police in, he ran over to disarm Depape rather than leaving the house? What? He's at the door with the police? Why go to disarm Depape?
Makes no sense, but this is Depape's statement and the man is mentally ill.
Something is left out of the account, to be filled in by Pelosi when he can respond. Sounds like Depape reacted to the police arriving, wasn’t going to surrender, so maybe he went after Pelosi as a hostage and Pelosi tried to grab the hammer. Does it really matter?
Yes it matters. "Maybes" do not. The police stated that when they entered the door, Pelosi and Depape had their hands on the hammer. Telling us what Depape said happened (the man talked to aliens and fairies) as opposed to what the police observed and what their body cam shows is different.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ll wait to see DaPape’s own testimony from his own mouth before I decide what this actually was.
You are in luck. Here is his Mirandized statement:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download
That’s nice.
I’ll still wait to see him say it on a witness stand in a courtroom, preferably on-camera, before I give anything any merit.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ll wait to see DaPape’s own testimony from his own mouth before I decide what this actually was.
His testimony from his own mouth is out for you to read, how will you move the goalposts now?
DP — To be clear it is not a transcription. However, I believe the FBI agent who prepared the statement document was honest and accurate.
The FBI typically doesn’t record and transcribe interviews. Agents take notes from which the prepare a “302” summary.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my understanding from that statement was after Pelosi let the police in, he ran over to disarm Depape rather than leaving the house? What? He's at the door with the police? Why go to disarm Depape?
Makes no sense, but this is Depape's statement and the man is mentally ill.
Something is left out of the account, to be filled in by Pelosi when he can respond. Sounds like Depape reacted to the police arriving, wasn’t going to surrender, so maybe he went after Pelosi as a hostage and Pelosi tried to grab the hammer. Does it really matter?
Anonymous wrote:He lived in the garage at Richmond Street. The guy was essentially homeless.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, it was politically motivated. From the FBI's charging document, Republican/rightwing talking points and messaging in bold:
In a Mirandized and recorded interview of DEPAPE by San Francisco Police Department Officers, DEPAPE provided the following information:
a. DEPAPE stated that he was going to hold Nancy hostage and talk to her. If Nancy were to tell DEPAPE the “truth,” he would let her go, and if she “lied,” he was going to break “her kneecaps.” DEPAPE was certain that Nancy would not have told the “truth.” In the course of the interview, DEPAPE articulated he viewed Nancy as the “leader of the pack” of lies told by the Democratic Party. DEPAPE also later explained that by breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other Members of Congress there were consequences to actions. DEPAPE also explained generally that he wanted to use Nancy to lure another individual to DEPAPE.
b. DEPAPE stated that he broke into the house through a glass door, which was a difficult task that required the use of a hammer. DEPAPE stated that Pelosi was in bed and appeared surprised by DEPAPE. DEPAPE told Pelosi to wake up. DEPAPE told Pelosi that he was looking for Nancy. Pelosi responded that she was not present. Pelosi asked how they could resolve the situation, and what DEPAPE wanted to do. DEPAPE stated he wanted to tie Pelosi up so that DEPAPE could go to sleep as he was tired from having had to carry a backpack to the Pelosi residence. Around this time, according to DEPAPE, DEPAPE started taking out twist ties from his pocket so that he could restrain Pelosi. Pelosi moved towards another part of the house, but DEPAPE stopped him and together they went back into the bedroom.
c. While talking with each other, Pelosi went into a bathroom, where Pelosi grabbed a phone to call 9-1-1. DEPAPE stated he felt like Pelosi’s actions compelled him to respond.
d. DEPAPE remembered thinking that there was no way the police were going to forget about the phone call. DEPAPE explained that he did not leave after Pelosi’s call to 9-1-1 because, much like the American founding fathers with the British, he was fighting against tyranny without the option of surrender. DEPAPE reiterated this sentiment elsewhere in the interview.
e. DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the interview, DEPAPE repeated that DEPAPE did not plan to surrender and that he would go “through” Pelosi.
f. DEPAPE stated that he pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and swung the hammer towards Pelosi. DEPAPE explained that Pelosi’s actions resulted in Pelosi “taking the punishment instead."
Let the MAGA-splaining begin in 3.....2.....1.....
They are going to say the FBI is "compromised" and "trying to make MAGA look bad."
It's never their fault, you see. MAGA are simultaneously the true patriots and victims.
Anonymous wrote:So my understanding from that statement was after Pelosi let the police in, he ran over to disarm Depape rather than leaving the house? What? He's at the door with the police? Why go to disarm Depape?
Makes no sense, but this is Depape's statement and the man is mentally ill.
Anonymous wrote:Yes, it was politically motivated. From the FBI's charging document, Republican/rightwing talking points and messaging in bold:
In a Mirandized and recorded interview of DEPAPE by San Francisco Police Department Officers, DEPAPE provided the following information:
a. DEPAPE stated that he was going to hold Nancy hostage and talk to her. If Nancy were to tell DEPAPE the “truth,” he would let her go, and if she “lied,” he was going to break “her kneecaps.” DEPAPE was certain that Nancy would not have told the “truth.” In the course of the interview, DEPAPE articulated he viewed Nancy as the “leader of the pack” of lies told by the Democratic Party. DEPAPE also later explained that by breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other Members of Congress there were consequences to actions. DEPAPE also explained generally that he wanted to use Nancy to lure another individual to DEPAPE.
b. DEPAPE stated that he broke into the house through a glass door, which was a difficult task that required the use of a hammer. DEPAPE stated that Pelosi was in bed and appeared surprised by DEPAPE. DEPAPE told Pelosi to wake up. DEPAPE told Pelosi that he was looking for Nancy. Pelosi responded that she was not present. Pelosi asked how they could resolve the situation, and what DEPAPE wanted to do. DEPAPE stated he wanted to tie Pelosi up so that DEPAPE could go to sleep as he was tired from having had to carry a backpack to the Pelosi residence. Around this time, according to DEPAPE, DEPAPE started taking out twist ties from his pocket so that he could restrain Pelosi. Pelosi moved towards another part of the house, but DEPAPE stopped him and together they went back into the bedroom.
c. While talking with each other, Pelosi went into a bathroom, where Pelosi grabbed a phone to call 9-1-1. DEPAPE stated he felt like Pelosi’s actions compelled him to respond.
d. DEPAPE remembered thinking that there was no way the police were going to forget about the phone call. DEPAPE explained that he did not leave after Pelosi’s call to 9-1-1 because, much like the American founding fathers with the British, he was fighting against tyranny without the option of surrender. DEPAPE reiterated this sentiment elsewhere in the interview.
e. DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the interview, DEPAPE repeated that DEPAPE did not plan to surrender and that he would go “through” Pelosi.
f. DEPAPE stated that he pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and swung the hammer towards Pelosi. DEPAPE explained that Pelosi’s actions resulted in Pelosi “taking the punishment instead."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ll wait to see DaPape’s own testimony from his own mouth before I decide what this actually was.
Do you doubt that the charging documents accurately convey DePape’s story or have you not had a chance to them yet? An excerpt is posted above.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ll wait to see DaPape’s own testimony from his own mouth before I decide what this actually was.
You are in luck. Here is his Mirandized statement:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download
That’s nice.
I’ll still wait to see him say it on a witness stand in a courtroom, preferably on-camera, before I give anything any merit.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my understanding from that statement was after Pelosi let the police in, he ran over to disarm Depape rather than leaving the house? What? He's at the door with the police? Why go to disarm Depape?
Makes no sense, but this is Depape's statement and the man is mentally ill.
Clearly Pelosi was drunk and his skirt was too short. He was asking for it, he shouldn’t have been walking home alone, his decisions are suspect and he should have known better than to try to get the weapon away.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ll wait to see DaPape’s own testimony from his own mouth before I decide what this actually was.
You are in luck. Here is his Mirandized statement:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download
That’s nice.
I’ll still wait to see him say it on a witness stand in a courtroom, preferably on-camera, before I give anything any merit.