Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh the hubris of either applying or being selected for an HOS in the same location of such a spectacular failure.
There’s a nice career to be had elsewhere. But here is adding insult to injury quite frankly
Why were none of the much less known interim HOS schools rushing to make the job permanent? There were 3 since Whittle and none took the bait.
At the same time, I interpret this as luck or politics. He was lucky enough to have three different interim positions that flowed smoothly between schools. How often does something like this happen? I am sure he still made a lot of money from those gigs.
INterim headships are not usually paid very well. For someone who hasn't chosen to retire, it's a hail Mary pass at staying in the profession. It does seem weird that none of them converted into a longer term offer.
I wouldn't describe it as a "hail Mary." Usually people who take these kind of gigs have retired from a headship elsewhere, and have no interest in another HOS gig. An interim position gives them the opportunity to not fully retire, make some money, maybe live in a new, interesting city, and take on a short term challenge. I agree with the PP that it's unusual for someone to have several interim gigs in a row and then go on to a permanent position.
Umm. My point entirely. It's a hail Mary for those who do not want to retire.
Anonymous wrote:Since he had a child just about to graduate from high school, I can see why he would take interim positions in the area over a permanent position in a different city.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh the hubris of either applying or being selected for an HOS in the same location of such a spectacular failure.
There’s a nice career to be had elsewhere. But here is adding insult to injury quite frankly
Why were none of the much less known interim HOS schools rushing to make the job permanent? There were 3 since Whittle and none took the bait.
At the same time, I interpret this as luck or politics. He was lucky enough to have three different interim positions that flowed smoothly between schools. How often does something like this happen? I am sure he still made a lot of money from those gigs.
INterim headships are not usually paid very well. For someone who hasn't chosen to retire, it's a hail Mary pass at staying in the profession. It does seem weird that none of them converted into a longer term offer.
I wouldn't describe it as a "hail Mary." Usually people who take these kind of gigs have retired from a headship elsewhere, and have no interest in another HOS gig. An interim position gives them the opportunity to not fully retire, make some money, maybe live in a new, interesting city, and take on a short term challenge. I agree with the PP that it's unusual for someone to have several interim gigs in a row and then go on to a permanent position.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh the hubris of either applying or being selected for an HOS in the same location of such a spectacular failure.
There’s a nice career to be had elsewhere. But here is adding insult to injury quite frankly
Why were none of the much less known interim HOS schools rushing to make the job permanent? There were 3 since Whittle and none took the bait.
At the same time, I interpret this as luck or politics. He was lucky enough to have three different interim positions that flowed smoothly between schools. How often does something like this happen? I am sure he still made a lot of money from those gigs.
INterim headships are not usually paid very well. For someone who hasn't chosen to retire, it's a hail Mary pass at staying in the profession. It does seem weird that none of them converted into a longer term offer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh the hubris of either applying or being selected for an HOS in the same location of such a spectacular failure.
There’s a nice career to be had elsewhere. But here is adding insult to injury quite frankly
Why were none of the much less known interim HOS schools rushing to make the job permanent? There were 3 since Whittle and none took the bait.
At the same time, I interpret this as luck or politics. He was lucky enough to have three different interim positions that flowed smoothly between schools. How
Perhaps he's also been throwing his hat in the ring for other permanent HOS jobs for the past couple years, and those other schools just haven't considered him/hired him.
Yes, and the schools that passed on him were wise and Maret was unwise. Period.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh the hubris of either applying or being selected for an HOS in the same location of such a spectacular failure.
There’s a nice career to be had elsewhere. But here is adding insult to injury quite frankly
Why were none of the much less known interim HOS schools rushing to make the job permanent? There were 3 since Whittle and none took the bait.
At the same time, I interpret this as luck or politics. He was lucky enough to have three different interim positions that flowed smoothly between schools. How often does something like this happen? I am sure he still made a lot of money from those gigs.
INterim headships are not usually paid very well. For someone who hasn't chosen to retire, it's a hail Mary pass at staying in the profession. It does seem weird that none of them converted into a longer term offer.
Usually when someone is brought in from the outside as an interim head, it’s meant to be truly that — interim. It’s not a test run. If an internal person is made interim, it’s likely they’ve thrown their hat in the ring and are under consideration (likely, but not always).
I’ve never heard of doing interim thrice in a row, and then getting hired by a premier school in the land (even without the messy Whittle fiasco that came first)
It reminds me of the corporate vultures who go around destroying businesses to create shareholder value. But that’s a legitimate job unlike this s*^+show
Anonymous wrote:There is no conspiracy here and no special Maret connection, other than that through no fault of their own they are facing a seriously questionable HOS tenure under a very heavy threat of reputational damage. IMO, it’s almost guaranteed to end badly if the selection proceeds, as more of this scandal and who did what gets under the magnifying glass of scrutiny by the bankruptcy lawyers, judges, journalists and ordinary people.
What you’re seeing on this board is well justified outrage over what happened and over the implicated people not only not getting their comeuppance but getting rewarded — whether through a coveted job for which there are excellent untarnished (women) candidates or through a college spot secured through a seriously padded resume or through getting repaid ahead of the legitimate creditors.
That outrage and interest is not shocking or fake. What’s shocking is constantly screaming against it through insults and misplaced moral outrage. It would be like saying people commenting on the Operation Varsity Blues should be silent and the FBI were unfair to the poor parents trying to do the best for their kids. It’s plain wrong and immoral and quite likely illegal (from consumer protection onwards).
I suspect the dcumers defending this behavior here are 1 or very few. Bisgaard’s tweet aiming to silence people had 1 taker only too. What happened at and around Whittle is indefensible.
Don’t be fooled - this thread seems to have really struck the nerve and now I’d like to see the Whittle scandal get unpacked more, particularly around the DC people who were in Chris Whittle’s inner circle.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh the hubris of either applying or being selected for an HOS in the same location of such a spectacular failure.
There’s a nice career to be had elsewhere. But here is adding insult to injury quite frankly
Why were none of the much less known interim HOS schools rushing to make the job permanent? There were 3 since Whittle and none took the bait.
At the same time, I interpret this as luck or politics. He was lucky enough to have three different interim positions that flowed smoothly between schools. How often does something like this happen? I am sure he still made a lot of money from those gigs.
INterim headships are not usually paid very well. For someone who hasn't chosen to retire, it's a hail Mary pass at staying in the profession. It does seem weird that none of them converted into a longer term offer.
Usually when someone is brought in from the outside as an interim head, it’s meant to be truly that — interim. It’s not a test run. If an internal person is made interim, it’s likely they’ve thrown their hat in the ring and are under consideration (likely, but not always).
I’ve never heard of doing interim thrice in a row, and then getting hired by a premier school in the land (even without the messy Whittle fiasco that came first)
It reminds me of the corporate vultures who go around destroying businesses to create shareholder value. But that’s a legitimate job unlike this s*^+show
It happens all the time. Just because you’ve never heard of it, it doesn’t mean it’s not common. The world is a bit broader than your personal experience.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh the hubris of either applying or being selected for an HOS in the same location of such a spectacular failure.
There’s a nice career to be had elsewhere. But here is adding insult to injury quite frankly
Why were none of the much less known interim HOS schools rushing to make the job permanent? There were 3 since Whittle and none took the bait.
At the same time, I interpret this as luck or politics. He was lucky enough to have three different interim positions that flowed smoothly between schools. How often does something like this happen? I am sure he still made a lot of money from those gigs.
INterim headships are not usually paid very well. For someone who hasn't chosen to retire, it's a hail Mary pass at staying in the profession. It does seem weird that none of them converted into a longer term offer.
Usually when someone is brought in from the outside as an interim head, it’s meant to be truly that — interim. It’s not a test run. If an internal person is made interim, it’s likely they’ve thrown their hat in the ring and are under consideration (likely, but not always).
I’ve never heard of doing interim thrice in a row, and then getting hired by a premier school in the land (even without the messy Whittle fiasco that came first)
It reminds me of the corporate vultures who go around destroying businesses to create shareholder value. But that’s a legitimate job unlike this s*^+show
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh the hubris of either applying or being selected for an HOS in the same location of such a spectacular failure.
There’s a nice career to be had elsewhere. But here is adding insult to injury quite frankly
Why were none of the much less known interim HOS schools rushing to make the job permanent? There were 3 since Whittle and none took the bait.
At the same time, I interpret this as luck or politics. He was lucky enough to have three different interim positions that flowed smoothly between schools. How often does something like this happen? I am sure he still made a lot of money from those gigs.
INterim headships are not usually paid very well. For someone who hasn't chosen to retire, it's a hail Mary pass at staying in the profession. It does seem weird that none of them converted into a longer term offer.
Usually when someone is brought in from the outside as an interim head, it’s meant to be truly that — interim. It’s not a test run. If an internal person is made interim, it’s likely they’ve thrown their hat in the ring and are under consideration (likely, but not always).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh the hubris of either applying or being selected for an HOS in the same location of such a spectacular failure.
There’s a nice career to be had elsewhere. But here is adding insult to injury quite frankly
Why were none of the much less known interim HOS schools rushing to make the job permanent? There were 3 since Whittle and none took the bait.
At the same time, I interpret this as luck or politics. He was lucky enough to have three different interim positions that flowed smoothly between schools. How often does something like this happen? I am sure he still made a lot of money from those gigs.
INterim headships are not usually paid very well. For someone who hasn't chosen to retire, it's a hail Mary pass at staying in the profession. It does seem weird that none of them converted into a longer term offer.
Anonymous wrote:IMO it does not. What you’re suggesting is not feasible for many reasons including that no parent would sign their name to a letter if they are afraid of possible retaliation or similar, however subtle, or other consequences of a failed action.
An anonymous survey would be a better way to go but someone would need to organize it.
The best way to go is for the Board or Admin to take the action, which probably should be undertaken given the scrutiny in the press and the extent of the concerns expressed, including on an anonymous board.
Namely at the time of the selection, much of the key information was not yet known including the deep involvement of the Bisgaards and others on the parents’ committee, absence of moral compass (to me clear through both the action and silence, and the no comment stance), and moreover a spectacular implosion of a school that one run for 2.5 years (not 1 year) and which lasted all of 3 years. This is some shocking stuff.