Anonymous wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SQB8JFp2VP4

Take a look at this video. Notice how different Jen comes across, how much light and genuine love she radiates..oh yes and “those hateful evangelicals” in this video. They truly seem awful(sarcasm)

I admit that the eight year old video above depresses me. This was the Jen I first was introduced to and fell in love with. This person is no more or never really existed in the first place.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SQB8JFp2VP4

Take a look at this video. Notice how different Jen comes across, how much light and genuine love she radiates..oh yes and “those hateful evangelicals” in this video. They truly seem awful(sarcasm)

Beth and Jessica H. just associating with Dildo Jen takes their stock down a bunch in my eyes. Jen is so so gross.

It’s been over six years of this nonstop failing-and-falling now.

The Me courses were a brief detour from victimhood to know-it-all-ness. I applaud her for doing the work to learn the numbers and get back on her feet, but it can't just stay that. Gotta be a course. Has anyone looked into this particular course? Is it basic finance (which is good for people who get anxious about money management)?

How many Me courses are we up to now? How many more are we betting she is lining up for the next year or so?

Count me in the surprised bunch at seeing no mention of "the Queen" -per Jen herself- Beth Moore and her memoir? BM is getting a TON of press for this.

Is Big Sass coming in for the big grift backyard BBQ?

Jen reminds me so much of my ex SIL, a self-styled "health coach." She divorced my BIL 4 or 5 years ago and still talks about getting out of her "abusive" marriage and losing weight. My BIL is a pain in the butt, but he is no abuser. But she needs to cling to this narrative to sell packaged food and feed her narcissism.

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Anonymous wrote:Why hasn't Jen interviewed Beth Moore on her podcast? Beth Moore has been on 50 podcasts. (or thereabouts)

They played nice afterward, but when Jen became super-champion for LGBTQ+ community, Beth—around that time—made a very public comment about Christians needing to live in the tension between truth and love, or something like that. It felt directed at the Hatmaker clan, even if it wasn’t. I bet they never fully landed on the same page, but they’ve sort of had each other’s backs as women. Beth still loves the Bible. Jen, not so much. Beth would be good for Jen’s image, but Jen-association would be bad for Beth’s brand. Beth was never trying to burn it all down. Jen loves lighting matches and pouring gasoline. They’re different breeds.

This, 100%. And Beth has a genuine kindness that Jen lacks. I was a little surprised that Jen didn't even bother to note Beth's publishing day (memoir that details incest, mental health issues and the very tough road she's traveled) but then I thought--I'm not surprised at all, sadly. Jen doesn't do anything if it doesn't benefit her; she wouldn't congratulate a friend out of the sheer goodness of her heart.

Because I am petty, I take some joy in the fact that Beth's book has been covered by NPR, ABC, and other major outlets while Jen is scrambling to get enough people to fill her backyard.

Anonymous wrote:Why hasn't Jen interviewed Beth Moore on her podcast? Beth Moore has been on 50 podcasts. (or thereabouts)

They played nice afterward, but when Jen became super-champion for LGBTQ+ community, Beth—around that time—made a very public comment about Christians needing to live in the tension between truth and love, or something like that. It felt directed at the Hatmaker clan, even if it wasn’t. I bet they never fully landed on the same page, but they’ve sort of had each other’s backs as women. Beth still loves the Bible. Jen, not so much. Beth would be good for Jen’s image, but Jen-association would be bad for Beth’s brand. Beth was never trying to burn it all down. Jen loves lighting matches and pouring gasoline. They’re different breeds.

“iceberg-loving ship” 🤣 Gonna need Jesus at the wheel to turn this one…

Why hasn't Jen interviewed Beth Moore on her podcast? Beth Moore has been on 50 podcasts. (or thereabouts)

Cheers to that! Except she will probably read this thread and use your sentiment to make a play on the seven-thing as a title for her big tell-all book that is surely coming. Throwback to her last big hit “Seven” (about minimalism of all things 🤦🏾‍♀️😬) except this next one will tell all the details of the seven years between 2016-2023. Don’t they say our cells regenerate every 7 years? We should brace ourselves. Jen probably isn’t fading into oblivion after seven years of chaos, but just creating the next version of herself. Jen 5.0 (as she turns 50…) 🤷🏾‍♀️ See? We don’t just throw shade. We got good ideas too. Screen-shot for when she steals it. 😆

the dcurbanmom-forum regulars will be so happy if this thread dies off the lists of trending boards. but not as happy as jen will be!

You forgot the $3000+ ticket to have a mediocre backyard dinner experience and donate to her company with their terrible administrative/charitable margins…but otherwise touched on most all of her recent highlights…er, lowlights.

It’s been over six years of this nonstop failing-and-falling now. There is something to the number 7 though. Perhaps a toast is due: Jen, may you get through your 7th anniversary of the original 2016 catastrophe this fall and finally turn this iceberg-loving ship around. May 2024 be your year. Drop the grifts and the “boyfriend” and the whatever-you’re-feeling toward Brandon and Tina. Graduate Remy, so you can be done with that part of parenting (since you already are). Maybe grandbabies are coming your way. You’ll be good at that. Teach a college class or two. Open a small restaurant. Enjoy a quiet life. Choose humility, not self-humiliation. Cheers!

I was gone from here for just a couple of weeks I think, maybe 3, and I had almost 20 pages to catch up on! 😂 That was a good rollercoaster of an afternoon read!!! I too agree with the most recent sentiments. I am not sure exactly which straw broke the camel’s back — because there is a lot of straw to choose from — somewhere between her shamelessly posting about Dave’s death but using it to point to herself, sharing their texts, etc (please see Rachel Hollis quick recent podcast; Jen, you (and Mel) are the “grotesque” of which Rachel speaks) … and ranting against evangelical Christians (agaaainnn 🙄🙄🙄) … and popping a daytime gummy at night while trying to sell them as brain-fuel … and the dildo video … and the desperate situation with Tyler … and on and on. You gals have nailed it. Nonstop grifting. Jumping from industrial dumpster to suddenly hosting a thrifting party (rethink your spokeslady, Noonday) … pretending to back off of using her children as content, but still misleading the masses about what happened in Spain AND broadcasting to all yet again that Remy’s room is a wreck (which tracks with the rest of her many Remy complaints). Not helpful to a teen daughter, FYI. Jen’s not even secure enough to meet her kids’ stepmother and just get along for their sake. Book sales plummeted. The cruise is ridiculous. Sad was the right word. There’s no graceful bowing out of the public eye at this point, but bowing out is still an option; let’s hope she finds a quiet life and a new gig. One that isn’t earned at the expense of literally everyone around her. No one wants that…and no one wants that for anyone else.

Agreed. There’s just nothing left anymore. I think the sex MeCourse did me in. It’s all downhill from here but not in any fun rubber necking sort it way.

Anonymous wrote:I have been a pretty busy Jen poster over the past two years but my interest in the snark in winding down.
And no, this isn’t Jen or any Corn Eater.
She’s just a simple, increasingly desperate grifter who’s moment in the sun has past.

Agreed. At some point it got so sad that it wasn’t even funny OR angering anymore. Just…sad. Revive us, by all means, if she accomplishes anything other than sad…it’s been a minute.

Like that Blake Shelton song about “Not only she don’t love me, she don’t hate me anymore”…The opposite of being Jen’s fan isn’t being Jen’s hater…there’s still emotion in hate. And the emotion was warranted for many who had invested time, money, and life response in consuming Jen’s “material”…and rightfully wanted to warn others or just vent or vindictively enjoy watching her sometimes get what she deserved. But at this point, Jen has moved most of us past our initial disappointment/disgust/amusement into something more like pitying her or not having any energy left to watch the continued free fall.

I have been a pretty busy Jen poster over the past two years but my interest in the snark in winding down.
And no, this isn’t Jen or any Corn Eater.
She’s just a simple, increasingly desperate grifter who’s moment in the sun has past.