Anonymous wrote:So the party who want to ban sex education in schools and ban books with sexual content also believe it's fine for adult men to have sex with 15 year old girls? I'm just making sure I understand the rules.
Reading about sex or learning how to use a condom - INAPPROPRIATE!!!
Sex with a 50 year old - NOTHING TO SEE HERE!
Anonymous wrote:
I’m very liberal and I loathe Trump.
I’m also a former child sex crimes prosecutor with a mountain of training and experience in the field of endeavor. I think human trafficking is a scourge and we should root out everyone who assisted Epstein and who participated in the exploitation of these teenaged girls.
But I feel compelled to point out that not even 100 years ago, so within the last 2-3 generations, it was the societal norm for men in their late 20s and early 30s to marry teenaged girls. The men had established themselves sufficient to support a family and the girls were sexually mature and ready to be a wife/mother.
Obviously I’m not suggesting teenaged girls should be encouraged to marry and start families at that age, but some still do and if you are outraged you might want to recognize that ‘child’ marriage is still very much legal in many states in the USA, where ages of consent are 16 or 17 and girls and boys can marry even younger than that with parental consent or judicial approval. If this makes you angry, do something about it.
And to clarify a point, while To Catch a Predator made every American an expert on pedophilia, the fact is that pedophilia is a very specific paraphilia that involves a primary sexual attraction to very young children, from infancy through grade school ages. Hebephilia is primary attraction to prepubescent children 11-14.
Ephebophilia is primary attraction to sexually mature children age 14-19, and is not considered a disorder or sickness at all.
Are the millions of young and adult men - and even girls and women - who were sexually attracted to teenaged Britney Spears in her erotic music videos sick and disgusting? No, they were not. They were normal primates of the Homo sapiens variety.
Is it creepy for men and women in their 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond to primarily be attracted to teenaged bodies? Personally I think so, but I’m a sapiosexual who is attracted primarily to intelligence and secondarily to physical characteristics. I can certainly see a beautiful young sexual mature body and see the appeal. And I know it’s not sickness for other adults to feel the same.
What’s grossest to me about the Epstein scandal is that young vulnerable girls were groomed and used by adult men and women (at least one) as though they were mere objects, then cast aside.
I don’t know that I’m prepared to suggest that Celine Dion’s late husband was a sick pervert.
There IS a difference.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I’m very liberal and I loathe Trump.
I’m also a former child sex crimes prosecutor with a mountain of training and experience in the field of endeavor. I think human trafficking is a scourge and we should root out everyone who assisted Epstein and who participated in the exploitation of these teenaged girls.
But I feel compelled to point out that not even 100 years ago, so within the last 2-3 generations, it was the societal norm for men in their late 20s and early 30s to marry teenaged girls. The men had established themselves sufficient to support a family and the girls were sexually mature and ready to be a wife/mother.
Obviously I’m not suggesting teenaged girls should be encouraged to marry and start families at that age, but some still do and if you are outraged you might want to recognize that ‘child’ marriage is still very much legal in many states in the USA, where ages of consent are 16 or 17 and girls and boys can marry even younger than that with parental consent or judicial approval. If this makes you angry, do something about it.
And to clarify a point, while To Catch a Predator made every American an expert on pedophilia, the fact is that pedophilia is a very specific paraphilia that involves a primary sexual attraction to very young children, from infancy through grade school ages. Hebephilia is primary attraction to prepubescent children 11-14.
Ephebophilia is primary attraction to sexually mature children age 14-19, and is not considered a disorder or sickness at all.
Are the millions of young and adult men - and even girls and women - who were sexually attracted to teenaged Britney Spears in her erotic music videos sick and disgusting? No, they were not. They were normal primates of the Homo sapiens variety.
Is it creepy for men and women in their 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond to primarily be attracted to teenaged bodies? Personally I think so, but I’m a sapiosexual who is attracted primarily to intelligence and secondarily to physical characteristics. I can certainly see a beautiful young sexual mature body and see the appeal. And I know it’s not sickness for other adults to feel the same.
What’s grossest to me about the Epstein scandal is that young vulnerable girls were groomed and used by adult men and women (at least one) as though they were mere objects, then cast aside.
I don’t know that I’m prepared to suggest that Celine Dion’s late husband was a sick pervert.
There IS a difference.
IS there. Would you be ok with a 40 year old grown man sleeping with your 14 or 15 year old daughter?
Anonymous wrote:
I’m very liberal and I loathe Trump.
I’m also a former child sex crimes prosecutor with a mountain of training and experience in the field of endeavor. I think human trafficking is a scourge and we should root out everyone who assisted Epstein and who participated in the exploitation of these teenaged girls.
But I feel compelled to point out that not even 100 years ago, so within the last 2-3 generations, it was the societal norm for men in their late 20s and early 30s to marry teenaged girls. The men had established themselves sufficient to support a family and the girls were sexually mature and ready to be a wife/mother.
Obviously I’m not suggesting teenaged girls should be encouraged to marry and start families at that age, but some still do and if you are outraged you might want to recognize that ‘child’ marriage is still very much legal in many states in the USA, where ages of consent are 16 or 17 and girls and boys can marry even younger than that with parental consent or judicial approval. If this makes you angry, do something about it.
And to clarify a point, while To Catch a Predator made every American an expert on pedophilia, the fact is that pedophilia is a very specific paraphilia that involves a primary sexual attraction to very young children, from infancy through grade school ages. Hebephilia is primary attraction to prepubescent children 11-14.
Ephebophilia is primary attraction to sexually mature children age 14-19, and is not considered a disorder or sickness at all.
Are the millions of young and adult men - and even girls and women - who were sexually attracted to teenaged Britney Spears in her erotic music videos sick and disgusting? No, they were not. They were normal primates of the Homo sapiens variety.
Is it creepy for men and women in their 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond to primarily be attracted to teenaged bodies? Personally I think so, but I’m a sapiosexual who is attracted primarily to intelligence and secondarily to physical characteristics. I can certainly see a beautiful young sexual mature body and see the appeal. And I know it’s not sickness for other adults to feel the same.
What’s grossest to me about the Epstein scandal is that young vulnerable girls were groomed and used by adult men and women (at least one) as though they were mere objects, then cast aside.
I don’t know that I’m prepared to suggest that Celine Dion’s late husband was a sick pervert.
There IS a difference.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have released three new emails from the estate of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein that mention President Trump, raising new questions about the extent of their relationship.
In one 2015 email between Epstein and author Michael Wolff, the pair discuss a potential question from Trump's upcoming CNN interview about Trump and Epstein’s personal ties.
"I think you should let him hang himself," Wolff wrote. "If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or, if it really looks like he could win, you could save him, generating a debt."
The correspondence shared Wednesday is part of 23,000 additional documents the committee is reviewing from the Epstein estate, Oversight Ranking Member Rep. Robert Garcia, D-Calif., said in a statement.
"The more Donald Trump tries to cover-up the Epstein files, the more we uncover," Garcia wrote. "These latest emails and correspondence raise glaring questions about what else the White House is hiding and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the President."”
Makes me even more convinced that Epstein was murdered.
+100. Epstein was definitely murdered.
Who ordered it and planned it? Trump is not smart enough and would not be able to stop talking about it, although he never talks about his assassination attempts.
There is a lot he does not talk about, and you contradicted yourself.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have released three new emails from the estate of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein that mention President Trump, raising new questions about the extent of their relationship.
In one 2015 email between Epstein and author Michael Wolff, the pair discuss a potential question from Trump's upcoming CNN interview about Trump and Epstein’s personal ties.
"I think you should let him hang himself," Wolff wrote. "If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or, if it really looks like he could win, you could save him, generating a debt."
The correspondence shared Wednesday is part of 23,000 additional documents the committee is reviewing from the Epstein estate, Oversight Ranking Member Rep. Robert Garcia, D-Calif., said in a statement.
"The more Donald Trump tries to cover-up the Epstein files, the more we uncover," Garcia wrote. "These latest emails and correspondence raise glaring questions about what else the White House is hiding and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the President."”
Makes me even more convinced that Epstein was murdered.
+100. Epstein was definitely murdered.
Who ordered it and planned it? Trump is not smart enough and would not be able to stop talking about it, although he never talks about his assassination attempts.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what’s the endgame here? A third impeachment? Way past statute of limitations for criminal conviction and the main witness is dead.
Epstein was one of the main witnesses and he was murdered. No statute of limitations there. MAGA only cared about Epstein when they could use it against the democrats. Now they do not care about it.
I can think of nothing in the Epstein files that would damage Trump in the least. Even if Trump turns out to be an Israel Chinese agent, Epstein ‘s pedo ring was created and controlled by Trump, Trump made millions from blackmail and there is video of Trump with boys, girls and underage trans(where he paid for the operation and any abortions).
Republicans only care about kissing the ring and worshiping Trump.