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Oh I am absolutely not suggesting that Joe "should have" realized it or anything. I just didn't understand from a trial perspective why the prosecution highlighted that question about the accent, except maybe to preempt the defense pointing it out?

I think maybe the line of reasoning there was to further eliminate the idea that Christine herself was using the account (because we know that the defense plans to use internal confusion/disagreement among investigators early on). Just acknowledging the fact Juliana was using it and certain details that support that. Presumably Joe didn’t comment on that in any of the text based messaging format transcripts though, because investigators would have obviously noticed that. I myself was wondering how they “prevented” that. They seem to have used a text based format again after the call. Brendan at least had to have known that would be recovered off Joe’s devices.

Since they had told Joe to leave his phone in the car, I wonder if BB had planned to remove Joe’s phone from the car before the police would find it.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

It would be a big deal if they found Brendan’s dna under CB’s nails, for example

I thought the prosecution raised some unanswered questions about this. Juliana testified that she spoke to Joe on the phone and he commented on her accent. I'm not sure why they wanted to elicit that. How did Joe then not realize that Christine was a different person when he arrived in person?

She matched the picture he had been shown, and he probably just didn’t notice the different voice. It’s not like they would have been having a calm conversation in that moment as he had had with Juliana on the phone previously.

And even if he had- like, if instead of just screaming, she was screaming words at him and he was like wait a minute this lady sounds nothing like the lady on the phone- and he stopped, and was like "wait, i know you arent giving me the safe word/ safe finger snap, but i need to stop for a minute because you dont sound like who i talked to about this encounter"- it doesnt change the fact that brendan and the au pair were already in the house with guns ready to kill them both. so even if christine and joe realized that they'd been set up because joe recognized her voice was different- what would have changed? nothing.

Oh I am absolutely not suggesting that Joe "should have" realized it or anything. I just didn't understand from a trial perspective why the prosecution highlighted that question about the accent, except maybe to preempt the defense pointing it out?

Its not really relevant to whether BB killed him. There is solid proof BB set up the account, catfished Joe and fired the gun. What happened those few minutes in the bedroom when CB and JR were alone is not really relevant to that. I wonder too, but its not pertinent to convicting BB.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

Agree, but still want to know what happened. Is there any chance she was stabbed before the rape scenario even started?

JPM said that CB shouted "Brendan, he has a knife!"

So clearly CB was conscious when BB entered the room.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

Agree, but still want to know what happened. Is there any chance she was stabbed before the rape scenario even started?

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Oh I am absolutely not suggesting that Joe "should have" realized it or anything. I just didn't understand from a trial perspective why the prosecution highlighted that question about the accent, except maybe to preempt the defense pointing it out?

I think maybe the line of reasoning there was to further eliminate the idea that Christine herself was using the account (because we know that the defense plans to use internal confusion/disagreement among investigators early on). Just acknowledging the fact Juliana was using it and certain details that support that. Presumably Joe didn’t comment on that in any of the text based messaging format transcripts though, because investigators would have obviously noticed that. I myself was wondering how they “prevented” that. They seem to have used a text based format again after the call. Brendan at least had to have known that would be recovered off Joe’s devices.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

It would be a big deal if they found Brendan’s dna under CB’s nails, for example

I thought the prosecution raised some unanswered questions about this. Juliana testified that she spoke to Joe on the phone and he commented on her accent. I'm not sure why they wanted to elicit that. How did Joe then not realize that Christine was a different person when he arrived in person?

She matched the picture he had been shown, and he probably just didn’t notice the different voice. It’s not like they would have been having a calm conversation in that moment as he had had with Juliana on the phone previously.

And even if he had- like, if instead of just screaming, she was screaming words at him and he was like wait a minute this lady sounds nothing like the lady on the phone- and he stopped, and was like "wait, i know you arent giving me the safe word/ safe finger snap, but i need to stop for a minute because you dont sound like who i talked to about this encounter"- it doesnt change the fact that brendan and the au pair were already in the house with guns ready to kill them both. so even if christine and joe realized that they'd been set up because joe recognized her voice was different- what would have changed? nothing.

Oh I am absolutely not suggesting that Joe "should have" realized it or anything. I just didn't understand from a trial perspective why the prosecution highlighted that question about the accent, except maybe to preempt the defense pointing it out?

Its not really relevant to whether BB killed him. There is solid proof BB set up the account, catfished Joe and fired the gun. What happened those few minutes in the bedroom when CB and JR were alone is not really relevant to that. I wonder too, but it's not pertinent to convicting BB.

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Oh I am absolutely not suggesting that Joe "should have" realized it or anything. I just didn't understand from a trial perspective why the prosecution highlighted that question about the accent, except maybe to preempt the defense pointing it out?

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

It would be a big deal if they found Brendan’s dna under CB’s nails, for example

I thought the prosecution raised some unanswered questions about this. Juliana testified that she spoke to Joe on the phone and he commented on her accent. I'm not sure why they wanted to elicit that. How did Joe then not realize that Christine was a different person when he arrived in person?

She matched the picture he had been shown, and he probably just didn’t notice the different voice. It’s not like they would have been having a calm conversation in that moment as he had had with Juliana on the phone previously.

And even if he had- like, if instead of just screaming, she was screaming words at him and he was like wait a minute this lady sounds nothing like the lady on the phone- and he stopped, and was like "wait, i know you arent giving me the safe word/ safe finger snap, but i need to stop for a minute because you dont sound like who i talked to about this encounter"- it doesnt change the fact that brendan and the au pair were already in the house with guns ready to kill them both. so even if christine and joe realized that they'd been set up because joe recognized her voice was different- what would have changed? nothing.

Oh I am absolutely not suggesting that Joe "should have" realized it or anything. I just didn't understand from a trial perspective why the prosecution highlighted that question about the accent, except maybe to preempt the defense pointing it out?

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

It would be a big deal if they found Brendan’s dna under CB’s nails, for example

I thought the prosecution raised some unanswered questions about this. Juliana testified that she spoke to Joe on the phone and he commented on her accent. I'm not sure why they wanted to elicit that. How did Joe then not realize that Christine was a different person when he arrived in person?

She matched the picture he had been shown, and he probably just didn’t notice the different voice. It’s not like they would have been having a calm conversation in that moment as he had had with Juliana on the phone previously.

And even if he had- like, if instead of just screaming, she was screaming words at him and he was like wait a minute this lady sounds nothing like the lady on the phone- and he stopped, and was like "wait, i know you arent giving me the safe word/ safe finger snap, but i need to stop for a minute because you dont sound like who i talked to about this encounter"- it doesnt change the fact that brendan and the au pair were already in the house with guns ready to kill them both. so even if christine and joe realized that they'd been set up because joe recognized her voice was different- what would have changed? nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

It would be a big deal if they found Brendan’s dna under CB’s nails, for example

I thought the prosecution raised some unanswered questions about this. Juliana testified that she spoke to Joe on the phone and he commented on her accent. I'm not sure why they wanted to elicit that. How did Joe then not realize that Christine was a different person when he arrived in person?

She matched the picture he had been shown, and he probably just didn’t notice the different voice. It’s not like they would have been having a calm conversation in that moment as he had had with Juliana on the phone previously.

And even if he had- like, if instead of just screaming, she was screaming words at him and he was like wait a minute this lady sounds nothing like the lady on the phone- and he stopped, and was like "wait, i know you arent giving me the safe word/ safe finger snap, but i need to stop for a minute because you dont sound like who i talked to about this encounter"- it doesnt change the fact that brendan and the au pair were already in the house with guns ready to kill them both. so even if christine and joe realized that they'd been set up because joe recognized her voice was different- what would have changed? nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

It would be a big deal if they found Brendan’s dna under CB’s nails, for example

I thought the prosecution raised some unanswered questions about this. Juliana testified that she spoke to Joe on the phone and he commented on her accent. I'm not sure why they wanted to elicit that. How did Joe then not realize that Christine was a different person when he arrived in person?

She matched the picture he had been shown, and he probably just didn’t notice the different voice. It’s not like they would have been having a calm conversation in that moment as he had had with Juliana on the phone previously.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

It would be a big deal if they found Brendan’s dna under CB’s nails, for example

I thought the prosecution raised some unanswered questions about this. Juliana testified that she spoke to Joe on the phone and he commented on her accent. I'm not sure why they wanted to elicit that. How did Joe then not realize that Christine was a different person when he arrived in person?

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

It would be a big deal if they found Brendan’s dna under CB’s nails, for example

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else catch when they were showing JPM's call log, that she had BB in her phone as "Brendan Hosto" and she had him marked as her Emergency Contact?

Anonymous wrote:When will the verdict come out?