Anonymous
12/05/2025 15:17
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From US Club
Additional Note - Players “trapped down”
Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.
Remember, US Club and NorCal place no restrictions on players playing in an older age group.
It is (and always has been) entirely up to clubs to decide if they want to:
Allow all players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team if they choose
Allow no players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team
Allow players that meet certain criteria to be primarily rostered to an older team
Possible solution:
Continue to have whatever rules and restrictions you currently have (or want to have) for players who want to play up into a different school grade.
Remove any restrictions for players playing up into their school grade.
Well this puts an end to the Aug kids will be forced up if trapped down argument. Where’d that guy at?
Seems pretty clear that if a player wants to get recruited in college they need to play on the team thats their grade in school.
Most the top elite performers play up.
Majority playing with and against kids in higher school grades
They get recruited to college
That says, your team age group is irrelevant to school grade with college recruiters
That’s just the most made up garbage ever. Yes some elite kids play up but most 97% of ECNL kids play their age group. The top ECNL girls club in my area which every team is top 25 nationally rarely has kids play up.
PP is referring to true elite players
Not ECNL players who thinks the E actually makes them Elite
Anonymous
12/05/2025 14:54
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From US Club
Additional Note - Players “trapped down”
Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.
Remember, US Club and NorCal place no restrictions on players playing in an older age group.
It is (and always has been) entirely up to clubs to decide if they want to:
Allow all players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team if they choose
Allow no players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team
Allow players that meet certain criteria to be primarily rostered to an older team
Possible solution:
Continue to have whatever rules and restrictions you currently have (or want to have) for players who want to play up into a different school grade.
Remove any restrictions for players playing up into their school grade.
Well this puts an end to the Aug kids will be forced up if trapped down argument. Where’d that guy at?
Seems pretty clear that if a player wants to get recruited in college they need to play on the team thats their grade in school.
Most the top elite performers play up.
Majority playing with and against kids in higher school grades
They get recruited to college
That says, your team age group is irrelevant to school grade with college recruiters
That’s just the most made up garbage ever. Yes some elite kids play up but most 97% of ECNL kids play their age group. The top ECNL girls club in my area which every team is top 25 nationally rarely has kids play up.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 14:14
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From US Club
Additional Note - Players “trapped down”
Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.
Remember, US Club and NorCal place no restrictions on players playing in an older age group.
It is (and always has been) entirely up to clubs to decide if they want to:
Allow all players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team if they choose
Allow no players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team
Allow players that meet certain criteria to be primarily rostered to an older team
Possible solution:
Continue to have whatever rules and restrictions you currently have (or want to have) for players who want to play up into a different school grade.
Remove any restrictions for players playing up into their school grade.
Well this puts an end to the Aug kids will be forced up if trapped down argument. Where’d that guy at?
Seems pretty clear that if a player wants to get recruited in college they need to play on the team thats their grade in school.
Most the top elite performers play up.
Majority playing with and against kids in higher school grades
They get recruited to college
That says, your team age group is irrelevant to school grade with college recruiters
Anonymous
12/05/2025 13:37
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Clear to you but not true to everyone else because players get selected not teams. They don't find you so much you as you find them blows a hole in theory.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From US Club
Additional Note - Players “trapped down”
Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.
Remember, US Club and NorCal place no restrictions on players playing in an older age group.
It is (and always has been) entirely up to clubs to decide if they want to:
Allow all players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team if they choose
Allow no players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team
Allow players that meet certain criteria to be primarily rostered to an older team
Possible solution:
Continue to have whatever rules and restrictions you currently have (or want to have) for players who want to play up into a different school grade.
Remove any restrictions for players playing up into their school grade.
Well this puts an end to the Aug kids will be forced up if trapped down argument. Where’d that guy at?
Seems pretty clear that if a player wants to get recruited in college they need to play on the team thats their grade in school.
If you dont want to play in college then why play on the A team? Just be happy and let someone else have the opportunity.
WTF? Playing in college or pro is not the end game for all good players; nor should it be. Kids who love soccer and playing against top competition need to be on the A teams. For every player that wants to play college there are 100 that are better than them who just want to play till college and get on with the social and career building aspects of college.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 13:36
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Your response is unrelated to what was written.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Clear to you but not true to everyone else because players get selected not teams. They don't find you so much you as you find them blows a hole in theory.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From US Club
Additional Note - Players “trapped down”
Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.
Remember, US Club and NorCal place no restrictions on players playing in an older age group.
It is (and always has been) entirely up to clubs to decide if they want to:
Allow all players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team if they choose
Allow no players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team
Allow players that meet certain criteria to be primarily rostered to an older team
Possible solution:
Continue to have whatever rules and restrictions you currently have (or want to have) for players who want to play up into a different school grade.
Remove any restrictions for players playing up into their school grade.
Well this puts an end to the Aug kids will be forced up if trapped down argument. Where’d that guy at?
Seems pretty clear that if a player wants to get recruited in college they need to play on the team thats their grade in school.
If you dont want to play in college then why play on the A team? Just be happy and let someone else have the opportunity.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 13:25
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Clear to you but not true to everyone else because players get selected not teams. They don't find you so much you as you find them blows a hole in theory.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From US Club
Additional Note - Players “trapped down”
Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.
Remember, US Club and NorCal place no restrictions on players playing in an older age group.
It is (and always has been) entirely up to clubs to decide if they want to:
Allow all players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team if they choose
Allow no players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team
Allow players that meet certain criteria to be primarily rostered to an older team
Possible solution:
Continue to have whatever rules and restrictions you currently have (or want to have) for players who want to play up into a different school grade.
Remove any restrictions for players playing up into their school grade.
Well this puts an end to the Aug kids will be forced up if trapped down argument. Where’d that guy at?
Seems pretty clear that if a player wants to get recruited in college they need to play on the team thats their grade in school.
If you dont want to play in college then why play on the A team? Just be happy and let someone else have the opportunity.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 13:05
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Clear to you but not true to everyone else because players get selected not teams. They don't find you so much you as you find them blows a hole in theory.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From US Club
Additional Note - Players “trapped down”
Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.
Remember, US Club and NorCal place no restrictions on players playing in an older age group.
It is (and always has been) entirely up to clubs to decide if they want to:
Allow all players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team if they choose
Allow no players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team
Allow players that meet certain criteria to be primarily rostered to an older team
Possible solution:
Continue to have whatever rules and restrictions you currently have (or want to have) for players who want to play up into a different school grade.
Remove any restrictions for players playing up into their school grade.
Well this puts an end to the Aug kids will be forced up if trapped down argument. Where’d that guy at?
Seems pretty clear that if a player wants to get recruited in college they need to play on the team thats their grade in school.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 13:01
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
You have blind spots, Google is your friend if you don't know much at all and want to have comments that aren't contradictory to logic.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You moronically ignored survivor bias. You tried to be the smartest person in the room and it exposed your lack of knowledge.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are multiple studies done on relative age effect by professional, academic and scientific organizations
They all reference chronological vs biological age and maturity impact in RAE
Nowhere in any of the research have I seen anything mentioned about school grade affecting team selection or performance
The study you're looking for happens every year when college coaches select their players. Guess what it's happens by grade / graduation year.
What are you talking about?
Come back from left field.
From Google. Survivorship bias is a logical error where one concentrates on entities that passed a selection process while overlooking those that did not. This can lead to incorrect conclusions because the data being examined is incomplete and therefore skewed toward success, hiding the lessons that could be learned from failure.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 12:45
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From US Club
Additional Note - Players “trapped down”
Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.
Remember, US Club and NorCal place no restrictions on players playing in an older age group.
It is (and always has been) entirely up to clubs to decide if they want to:
Allow all players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team if they choose
Allow no players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team
Allow players that meet certain criteria to be primarily rostered to an older team
Possible solution:
Continue to have whatever rules and restrictions you currently have (or want to have) for players who want to play up into a different school grade.
Remove any restrictions for players playing up into their school grade.
Well this puts an end to the Aug kids will be forced up if trapped down argument. Where’d that guy at?
Seems pretty clear that if a player wants to get recruited in college they need to play on the team thats their grade in school.
That was never the argument. Kids can always play up it’s they would not be forced up.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 12:44
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From US Club
Additional Note - Players “trapped down”
Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.
Remember, US Club and NorCal place no restrictions on players playing in an older age group.
It is (and always has been) entirely up to clubs to decide if they want to:
Allow all players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team if they choose
Allow no players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team
Allow players that meet certain criteria to be primarily rostered to an older team
Possible solution:
Continue to have whatever rules and restrictions you currently have (or want to have) for players who want to play up into a different school grade.
Remove any restrictions for players playing up into their school grade.
Well this puts an end to the Aug kids will be forced up if trapped down argument. Where’d that guy at?
Seems pretty clear that if a player wants to get recruited in college they need to play on the team thats their grade in school.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 12:42
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:From US Club
Additional Note - Players “trapped down”
Due to the 8/1 cutoff for soccer and 9/1 school cutoff in California, many players with an August birthday will be eligible to play in the age group younger than most players of their school grade. This could put those players at the very disadvantage that the age group change was designed to avoid. The bright side, however, is that the solution to this problem is entirely in the hands of clubs.
Remember, US Club and NorCal place no restrictions on players playing in an older age group.
It is (and always has been) entirely up to clubs to decide if they want to:
Allow all players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team if they choose
Allow no players to be selected and primarily rostered to an older team
Allow players that meet certain criteria to be primarily rostered to an older team
Possible solution:
Continue to have whatever rules and restrictions you currently have (or want to have) for players who want to play up into a different school grade.
Remove any restrictions for players playing up into their school grade.
Well this puts an end to the Aug kids will be forced up if trapped down argument. Where’d that guy at?
Anonymous
12/05/2025 11:44
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:You moronically ignored survivor bias. You tried to be the smartest person in the room and it exposed your lack of knowledge.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are multiple studies done on relative age effect by professional, academic and scientific organizations
They all reference chronological vs biological age and maturity impact in RAE
Nowhere in any of the research have I seen anything mentioned about school grade affecting team selection or performance
The study you're looking for happens every year when college coaches select their players. Guess what it's happens by grade / graduation year.
What are you talking about?
Come back from left field.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 11:28
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
You moronically ignored survivor bias. You tried to be the smartest person in the room and it exposed your lack of knowledge.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are multiple studies done on relative age effect by professional, academic and scientific organizations
They all reference chronological vs biological age and maturity impact in RAE
Nowhere in any of the research have I seen anything mentioned about school grade affecting team selection or performance
The study you're looking for happens every year when college coaches select their players. Guess what it's happens by grade / graduation year.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 10:35
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are multiple studies done on relative age effect by professional, academic and scientific organizations
They all reference chronological vs biological age and maturity impact in RAE
Nowhere in any of the research have I seen anything mentioned about school grade affecting team selection or performance
The study you're looking for happens every year when college coaches select their players. Guess what it's happens by grade / graduation year.
Of course college coaches pay attention to graduation year, duh
What does that have to do with advantages or disadvantages?
Anonymous
12/05/2025 10:27
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:There are multiple studies done on relative age effect by professional, academic and scientific organizations
They all reference chronological vs biological age and maturity impact in RAE
Nowhere in any of the research have I seen anything mentioned about school grade affecting team selection or performance
The study you're looking for happens every year when college coaches select their players. Guess what it's happens by grade / graduation year.