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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

Agree, but still want to know what happened. Is there any chance she was stabbed before the rape scenario even started?

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Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

That doesn’t matter. They have evidence that BB catfished Joe. No one thinks BB tried to save the day.

Anonymous wrote:Did the defense ask any questions about whether the forensic experts discovered any evidence that Christine fought back at anytime? Or if she was asleep until she was woken up by the stabbing? I hope the prosecution clears that time gap up because they will definitely show the jury the extent that the murder happened before Joe even started any of the planned fantasy. And it will dispute the claim that BB disrupted Joe attempting to kill Christine.

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Anonymous wrote:I was searching around to see if any documents were available for the case. I didn't find them but found the court is uploading the trial exhibits to their website. I haven't looked yet, but be warned, they might be graphic if they uploaded scene photos. They can be found here

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/high-profile-cases

Omg. I read the telegram conversation. I wish I hadn’t. So disturbing on many levels.

My Takeaway on the telegram conversations was that Joe wanted to make sure that he didn’t cross any boundaries with who he thought was Christine. Wanted to make sure that he arrived when he was told and left when he was told and did only things that “she” consented to.

I wonder if this will have an effect on the fetish community — like it’s a major red flag if the only comms are via messages, and the person says don’t actually confirm the intent and limits with me when we meet in person. Hopefully no one ever does this again — I can see someone setting something like this up as revenge on an ex. Consent should always be confirmed in person.

I really hope so. Anyone on that website should take this case to heart to protect themselves and ensure they don't do harm to others.

The depravity of BB is astonishing. To think something like this up. To work toward it for months. To have conversations with a stranger and know you are sentencing him to death. And then, to not just murder your wife - the mother of your child - but to make her suffer, to make her last moments on earth unbearably painful. How did he even get to that point? It's unfathomable to me. Pure pure evil.

The truth of the matter is that Joe was engaging in risky behavior. Not behavior for which he should be murdered but risky behavior none the less. Meeting sex for strangers is risky.

Thank you Captain Obvious. Where would we be 1 million pages into this topic without you to educate us?

If Joe had not agreed to this, we wouldn’t be here would we?

What you should be asking or saying is that we wouldn’t be here if Brendan didn’t plot to murder his wife in cold blood. Like a Psychopath!

Did you read the telegram? The things he was talking about were violent and horrifying. Adding in comments about boundaries doesn’t discount that he was a terrifying man. That Christine had to be subjected to any part of that is beyond awful.

Just because your life is vanilla, doesn’t mean others are too 🤷🏻‍♀️
As far as I know, he’s not accused of anything. He’s a victim. If he was terrifying, he’d be out actually r4p… people

There a lot of real estate between vanilla bean and the twisted Baskin Robbin’s 31 ways to “pretend” violently rape and violate a woman in the most painful and degrading way possible (in the telegram not gonna post here)). He’s a victim for sure but not a nice one and a bit of a victim of his own making.

I read the transcript and was horrified by it, but that man (Joe) was FULLY committed to consent. He, multiple times, verified things like safe words (I think they talked about snapping fingers?) and he verbally expressed concern that if he restrained her in a certain way she wouldnt be able to snap if she wanted him to stop. He even verified the exact time that he would stop restraining her and that he would set an alarm. And there were other instances of him being very proactive in making sure there was consent, and that he knew exactly what she wanted, what she didn't want, and how she could signal for him to stop. No one is going to ever accuse me of being remotely in to any of this stuff that I read in the transcript, but you absolutely cannot place the blame on Joe for this and say that he "isn't nice" based on reading this. If anything, he came across as incredibly sensitive to making sure she was comfortable with the whole plan. So GTFO with calling him "not a nice victim and a victim of his own making". That's completely unfair.

He was a sadist who found a loophole. He got pleasure from hurting people and liked it so much that he entered into a clearly unsafe arrangement to satisfy his urges. No one can consent to being punched in the face but forced a**l is fine? Come on. Let’s not normalize this and let’s not pretend if the genders were reversed we wouldn’t be talking about how on earth a woman with any sense would go into a situation like that.

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Anonymous wrote:The gun application has BB's full social in it. How is that OK to release without redaction?

That you Tess? Still reaching for any basis to object to the prosecution of your demented son? I live in the neighborhood and saw your killer son so many times walking the husky and just by himself with that vacant stare of a psychopath. And you, in your white Camry (your mother in the blue Prius) driving in and out of the neighborhood with the hauteur of the “unjustly victimized”? GET OUT!!!

Nope, just somebody interested in the case who is legimitately curious how it was allowed given the strong identity protection laws in our country. I'm also pretty confident he's a stone cold killer, so maybe calm down?

I also noticed he identified himself as Hispanic?

That’s Samuel, not Brendan.

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Anonymous wrote:I was searching around to see if any documents were available for the case. I didn't find them but found the court is uploading the trial exhibits to their website. I haven't looked yet, but be warned, they might be graphic if they uploaded scene photos. They can be found here

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/high-profile-cases

Omg. I read the telegram conversation. I wish I hadn’t. So disturbing on many levels.

My Takeaway on the telegram conversations was that Joe wanted to make sure that he didn’t cross any boundaries with who he thought was Christine. Wanted to make sure that he arrived when he was told and left when he was told and did only things that “she” consented to.

I wonder if this will have an effect on the fetish community — like it’s a major red flag if the only comms are via messages, and the person says don’t actually confirm the intent and limits with me when we meet in person. Hopefully no one ever does this again — I can see someone setting something like this up as revenge on an ex. Consent should always be confirmed in person.

I really hope so. Anyone on that website should take this case to heart to protect themselves and ensure they don't do harm to others.

The depravity of BB is astonishing. To think something like this up. To work toward it for months. To have conversations with a stranger and know you are sentencing him to death. And then, to not just murder your wife - the mother of your child - but to make her suffer, to make her last moments on earth unbearably painful. How did he even get to that point? It's unfathomable to me. Pure pure evil.

The truth of the matter is that Joe was engaging in risky behavior. Not behavior for which he should be murdered but risky behavior none the less. Meeting sex for strangers is risky.

Thank you Captain Obvious. Where would we be 1 million pages into this topic without you to educate us?

If Joe had not agreed to this, we wouldn’t be here would we?

What you should be asking or saying is that we wouldn’t be here if Brendan didn’t plot to murder his wife in cold blood. Like a Psychopath!

Did you read the telegram? The things he was talking about were violent and horrifying. Adding in comments about boundaries doesn’t discount that he was a terrifying man. That Christine had to be subjected to any part of that is beyond awful.

Just because your life is vanilla, doesn’t mean others are too 🤷🏻‍♀️
As far as I know, he’s not accused of anything. He’s a victim. If he was terrifying, he’d be out actually r4p… people

There a lot of real estate between vanilla bean and the twisted Baskin Robbin’s 31 ways to “pretend” violently rape and violate a woman in the most painful and degrading way possible (in the telegram not gonna post here)). He’s a victim for sure but not a nice one and a bit of a victim of his own making.

I read the transcript and was horrified by it, but that man (Joe) was FULLY committed to consent. He, multiple times, verified things like safe words (I think they talked about snapping fingers?) and he verbally expressed concern that if he restrained her in a certain way she wouldnt be able to snap if she wanted him to stop. He even verified the exact time that he would stop restraining her and that he would set an alarm. And there were other instances of him being very proactive in making sure there was consent, and that he knew exactly what she wanted, what she didn't want, and how she could signal for him to stop. No one is going to ever accuse me of being remotely in to any of this stuff that I read in the transcript, but you absolutely cannot place the blame on Joe for this and say that he "isn't nice" based on reading this. If anything, he came across as incredibly sensitive to making sure she was comfortable with the whole plan. So GTFO with calling him "not a nice victim and a victim of his own making". That's completely unfair.

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how dumb the guy is. She was very unattractive, but dyed her hair blond, so he was like wow got someone worth blowing my marriage up for, but now she looks like an old overweight torta street vendor. His wife was way better looking. He looks like a total foolish idiot. IRS special agent, moron.

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Anonymous wrote:The gun application has BB's full social in it. How is that OK to release without redaction?

That you Tess? Still reaching for any basis to object to the prosecution of your demented son? I live in the neighborhood and saw your killer son so many times walking the husky and just by himself with that vacant stare of a psychopath. And you, in your white Camry (your mother in the blue Prius) driving in and out of the neighborhood with the hauteur of the “unjustly victimized”? GET OUT!!!

Nope, just somebody interested in the case who is legimitately curious how it was allowed given the strong identity protection laws in our country. I'm also pretty confident he's a stone cold killer, so maybe calm down?

I also noticed he identified himself as Hispanic?

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Anonymous wrote:The gun application has BB's full social in it. How is that OK to release without redaction?

That you Tess? Still reaching for any basis to object to the prosecution of your demented son? I live in the neighborhood and saw your killer son so many times walking the husky and just by himself with that vacant stare of a psychopath. And you, in your white Camry (your mother in the blue Prius) driving in and out of the neighborhood with the hauteur of the “unjustly victimized”? GET OUT!!!

Nope, just somebody interested in the case who is legimitately curious how it was allowed given the strong identity protection laws in our country. I'm also pretty confident he's a stone cold killer, so maybe calm down?

Anonymous wrote:Wow so BB went to Mcdonalds, stayed in the bathroom for about 7 minutes (presumably waiting for JM's call), and then went back home. So he didn't even get breakfast from Mcdonalds.

Anonymous wrote:OK, 383 pages that I obviously can't read all of so I just wanted to post what has probably already been posted dozens of times: WHY is the au pair being given a deal of time served? What kind of sick f*** does a thing like that? She needs to be put away and never see the light of day again, literally ever. Would you want to work with, shop in the grocery store with, live next to -- or hire as a baby sitter!!!!!! -- someone who participated in this sick plot? Which she freely admits to? Why did either of them think this was a good idea????

There is something very wrong with our judicial system that this is considered worthy of only one year in jail. Truely insane.

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Anonymous wrote:The gun application has BB's full social in it. How is that OK to release without redaction?

That you Tess? Still reaching for any basis to object to the prosecution of your demented son? I live in the neighborhood and saw your killer son so many times walking the husky and just by himself with that vacant stare of a psychopath. And you, in your white Camry (your mother in the blue Prius) driving in and out of the neighborhood with the hauteur of the “unjustly victimized”? GET OUT!!!

Nope, just somebody interested in the case who is legimitately curious how it was allowed given the strong identity protection laws in our country. I'm also pretty confident he's a stone cold killer, so maybe calm down?

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Anonymous wrote:I was searching around to see if any documents were available for the case. I didn't find them but found the court is uploading the trial exhibits to their website. I haven't looked yet, but be warned, they might be graphic if they uploaded scene photos. They can be found here

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/high-profile-cases

Omg. I read the telegram conversation. I wish I hadn’t. So disturbing on many levels.

My Takeaway on the telegram conversations was that Joe wanted to make sure that he didn’t cross any boundaries with who he thought was Christine. Wanted to make sure that he arrived when he was told and left when he was told and did only things that “she” consented to.

I wonder if this will have an effect on the fetish community — like it’s a major red flag if the only comms are via messages, and the person says don’t actually confirm the intent and limits with me when we meet in person. Hopefully no one ever does this again — I can see someone setting something like this up as revenge on an ex. Consent should always be confirmed in person.

I really hope so. Anyone on that website should take this case to heart to protect themselves and ensure they don't do harm to others.

The depravity of BB is astonishing. To think something like this up. To work toward it for months. To have conversations with a stranger and know you are sentencing him to death. And then, to not just murder your wife - the mother of your child - but to make her suffer, to make her last moments on earth unbearably painful. How did he even get to that point? It's unfathomable to me. Pure pure evil.

The truth of the matter is that Joe was engaging in risky behavior. Not behavior for which he should be murdered but risky behavior none the less. Meeting sex for strangers is risky.

Thank you Captain Obvious. Where would we be 1 million pages into this topic without you to educate us?

If Joe had not agreed to this, we wouldn’t be here would we?

What you should be asking or saying is that we wouldn’t be here if Brendan didn’t plot to murder his wife in cold blood. Like a Psychopath!

Did you read the telegram? The things he was talking about were violent and horrifying. Adding in comments about boundaries doesn’t discount that he was a terrifying man. That Christine had to be subjected to any part of that is beyond awful.

Just because your life is vanilla, doesn’t mean others are too 🤷🏻‍♀️
As far as I know, he’s not accused of anything. He’s a victim. If he was terrifying, he’d be out actually r4p… people

There a lot of real estate between vanilla bean and the twisted Baskin Robbin’s 31 ways to “pretend” violently rape and violate a woman in the most painful and degrading way possible (in the telegram not gonna post here)). He’s a victim for sure but not a nice one and a bit of a victim of his own making.

I read the transcript and was horrified by it, but that man (Joe) was FULLY committed to consent. He, multiple times, verified things like safe words (I think they talked about snapping fingers?) and he verbally expressed concern that if he restrained her in a certain way she wouldnt be able to snap if she wanted him to stop. He even verified the exact time that he would stop restraining her and that he would set an alarm. And there were other instances of him being very proactive in making sure there was consent, and that he knew exactly what she wanted, what she didn't want, and how she could signal for him to stop. No one is going to ever accuse me of being remotely in to any of this stuff that I read in the transcript, but you absolutely cannot place the blame on Joe for this and say that he "isn't nice" based on reading this. If anything, he came across as incredibly sensitive to making sure she was comfortable with the whole plan. So GTFO with calling him "not a nice victim and a victim of his own making". That's completely unfair.