Anonymous wrote:Glad to hear that the ICC is being sanctioned by the US. It's shown itself to be an incredibly antisemitic pro Hamas organization

Corruption by any other name …

Glad to hear that the ICC is being sanctioned by the US. It's shown itself to be an incredibly antisemitic pro Hamas organization

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change until Hamas is wiped out. That's the the undeniable and certain reality. The IDF will win in the end; Hamas will eventually either formally surrender or become effectively completely impotent, and that will be that. Same end result as in every single other conflict since the IDF came into being 77 years ago.

All the sympathizer outrage here would be better channeled in calling for Hamas' prompt surrender and for the release of the hostages, unless of course you prefer higher body counts. It seems it's easier to decry the IDF's effectiveness and to whine that Israel is illegitimate than it is to criticize Hamas and their supporters, not to mention their Iranian puppet masters.

There was a time when your mischaracterizations of those opposed to Israel’s atrocities and your hasbara boogeyman rhetoric were taken seriously by many others. No longer.

It matters not in the least whether or not you "take it seriously"; facts are facts. The IDF will win as it always has, more civilians will die as Hamas and its supporters wage an utterly futile fight with an infinitely superior and relentlessly determined opponent. Surrender or die is not hyperbole in this case, any more than it has been in the last 77 years.

Ah, I don’t know - pick a lane already.

Most of your fellow Zionist goons shriek that you’re at daily risk of annihilation at the hands of a bunch of desert dwellers.

Infinitely superior and relentlessly determined … but also incapable of fending off men with sticks and stones without the vast advantage of tens of billions in armaments and welfare every year from Uncle Sam?

Sounds like you left something out - naturally soft without being propped up.

Seems like the IDF is doing quite well relative to the opposition.

lol the Mayberry police department for could a better job. The IDF have the best artillery, tanks and air force the US can “buy” for them and Hamas(by the IDF own’s account) Hamas operates openly and controls Gaza.

I suppose all those images of Gaza as a barren wasteland are photoshopped, then? Like rats, the enemy now lives underground, surrounded by hostages, which complicates their eradication, just as the civilian human shields and military use of civilian infrastructure likes schools, mosques, and hospitals make targeting more challenging. But that's only a challenge for the civilized side; Hamas couldn't care less about civilian casualties, they revel in them as good propaganda, swallowed whole by gullible sympathizers whose attention is directed to phony statistics put out by the Gazan Health Ministry to engender more tears from the soft-hearted. Still, in time, the job will be completed and yet another experiment in Palestinian adventurism will be consigned to the trash heap of history like all the others which preceded it.

STOP

Numerous legitimate sources have validated the numbers of lives lost in Gaza. Diminishing these numbers makes you no better than Alex Jones attacking the Sandy Hook families.

No sources for those #s are unbiased or objective or reliable. They are put out there for the gullible, to engender sympathy. They also are notably silent on #s of terrorists eliminated, which should be a clue that the numbers which are released are pure propaganda with no factual underpinning.

Let’s just say you are correct and put numbers aside. My friend from Lebanon shared with me a book of poems written by children in Gaza that her Palestinian’s friend mother (who was a teacher) sent her from students at her school (which the friend subsequently self published). Heart breaking stories from kids ages 5-12 documenting the loss of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends, and limbs. How they miss school, their homes, freedom to play safely. How they are scared, cold and hungry.

This is definitely not propaganda.

Human children are actively suffering.

My moral code doesn’t allow me to brush this aside. And I am horrified by those who all so easily dehumanize and reflexively point to 10/7 being the excuse for the horrors that Israel - aided by US military aid - is actively promoting.

Over 1000 Israeli civilians were killed or kidnapped on 10/7 and that started a war.

The Japanese killed 2000 service members at pearl harbor, and that started a war.
We proceeded to kill about 2 million Japanese before they unconditionally surrendered.

This is war.
A war hamas started.
It can stop as soon as Hamas unconditionally surrenders.

If you think Israel is a lost cause and hamas is so great why are you asking israel to stop the war iunstead of asking hamas to stop the war?
We know why. Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that cannot be reasoned with. And you want Israel to make peace with them.

This doesn't stop until Hamas is destroyed.
Nobody can stop israel but israel.
And when this is done, nobody will remember this even happened in 20 years when we will all the protesters will go back to throwing tomato soup at artwork and calling everyone racist.

FAFO.

^ this

Not this. Israel killed over 200 Palestinians in 2023 before Oct7. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

Also the Israelis have never given a number of Israelis killed by their own tank and artillery fire. Most reliable data says that number is over 900.

It is time for Israel to surrender to Hamas and pay for their crimes against humanity. This is the only way peace and American interest can be served.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-underreported-study-intl/index.html

That’s for the POS Zionist ghouls who continue to make false claims regarding the death toll in the genocidal Israeli operations in Gaza, claiming over and over again that hardly anyone has actually been killed ...

I don't think the death toll is in all that much dispute. There is the question of who the casualties are, with the Gazan authorities claiming only women and children are casualties, with the terrorists left untouched, which seems more than a little mendacious. What seems to be more the issue is whether the Palestinians and Hamas can stop the death toll from rising, which they obviously both can and also won't. They prefer to keep goading Israel and suffering the consequences.

Israel could abandon the hostages and just absorb the terrorist activity without response, the preferred approach of the Hamas sympathizers.

Or, the IDF could continue to work towards neutralization of terrorism, which is what it is doing. That is not without a cost to both the terrorists and to the civilians among whom they hide and shelter.

LOL no. Israel doesn't care if it gets the hostages back.

Continued land grab with internal acceptance of armed violence (NOT terrorism) has been the Israeli MO forever.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change until Hamas is wiped out. That's the the undeniable and certain reality. The IDF will win in the end; Hamas will eventually either formally surrender or become effectively completely impotent, and that will be that. Same end result as in every single other conflict since the IDF came into being 77 years ago.

All the sympathizer outrage here would be better channeled in calling for Hamas' prompt surrender and for the release of the hostages, unless of course you prefer higher body counts. It seems it's easier to decry the IDF's effectiveness and to whine that Israel is illegitimate than it is to criticize Hamas and their supporters, not to mention their Iranian puppet masters.

There was a time when your mischaracterizations of those opposed to Israel’s atrocities and your hasbara boogeyman rhetoric were taken seriously by many others. No longer.

It matters not in the least whether or not you "take it seriously"; facts are facts. The IDF will win as it always has, more civilians will die as Hamas and its supporters wage an utterly futile fight with an infinitely superior and relentlessly determined opponent. Surrender or die is not hyperbole in this case, any more than it has been in the last 77 years.

Ah, I don’t know - pick a lane already.

Most of your fellow Zionist goons shriek that you’re at daily risk of annihilation at the hands of a bunch of desert dwellers.

Infinitely superior and relentlessly determined … but also incapable of fending off men with sticks and stones without the vast advantage of tens of billions in armaments and welfare every year from Uncle Sam?

Sounds like you left something out - naturally soft without being propped up.

Seems like the IDF is doing quite well relative to the opposition.

lol the Mayberry police department for could a better job. The IDF have the best artillery, tanks and air force the US can “buy” for them and Hamas(by the IDF own’s account) Hamas operates openly and controls Gaza.

I suppose all those images of Gaza as a barren wasteland are photoshopped, then? Like rats, the enemy now lives underground, surrounded by hostages, which complicates their eradication, just as the civilian human shields and military use of civilian infrastructure likes schools, mosques, and hospitals make targeting more challenging. But that's only a challenge for the civilized side; Hamas couldn't care less about civilian casualties, they revel in them as good propaganda, swallowed whole by gullible sympathizers whose attention is directed to phony statistics put out by the Gazan Health Ministry to engender more tears from the soft-hearted. Still, in time, the job will be completed and yet another experiment in Palestinian adventurism will be consigned to the trash heap of history like all the others which preceded it.

STOP

Numerous legitimate sources have validated the numbers of lives lost in Gaza. Diminishing these numbers makes you no better than Alex Jones attacking the Sandy Hook families.

No sources for those #s are unbiased or objective or reliable. They are put out there for the gullible, to engender sympathy. They also are notably silent on #s of terrorists eliminated, which should be a clue that the numbers which are released are pure propaganda with no factual underpinning.

Let’s just say you are correct and put numbers aside. My friend from Lebanon shared with me a book of poems written by children in Gaza that her Palestinian’s friend mother (who was a teacher) sent her from students at her school (which the friend subsequently self published). Heart breaking stories from kids ages 5-12 documenting the loss of their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, friends, and limbs. How they miss school, their homes, freedom to play safely. How they are scared, cold and hungry.

This is definitely not propaganda.

Human children are actively suffering.

My moral code doesn’t allow me to brush this aside. And I am horrified by those who all so easily dehumanize and reflexively point to 10/7 being the excuse for the horrors that Israel - aided by US military aid - is actively promoting.

Over 1000 Israeli civilians were killed or kidnapped on 10/7 and that started a war.

The Japanese killed 2000 service members at pearl harbor, and that started a war.
We proceeded to kill about 2 million Japanese before they unconditionally surrendered.

This is war.
A war hamas started.
It can stop as soon as Hamas unconditionally surrenders.

If you think Israel is a lost cause and hamas is so great why are you asking israel to stop the war iunstead of asking hamas to stop the war?
We know why. Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that cannot be reasoned with. And you want Israel to make peace with them.

This doesn't stop until Hamas is destroyed.
Nobody can stop israel but israel.
And when this is done, nobody will remember this even happened in 20 years when we will all the protesters will go back to throwing tomato soup at artwork and calling everyone racist.

FAFO.

^ this

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-underreported-study-intl/index.html

That’s for the POS Zionist ghouls who continue to make false claims regarding the death toll in the genocidal Israeli operations in Gaza, claiming over and over again that hardly anyone has actually been killed ...

I don't think the death toll is in all that much dispute. There is the question of who the casualties are, with the Gazan authorities claiming only women and children are casualties, with the terrorists left untouched, which seems more than a little mendacious. What seems to be more the issue is whether the Palestinians and Hamas can stop the death toll from rising, which they obviously both can and also won't. They prefer to keep goading Israel and suffering the consequences.

Israel could abandon the hostages and just absorb the terrorist activity without response, the preferred approach of the Hamas sympathizers.

Or, the IDF could continue to work towards neutralization of terrorism, which is what it is doing. That is not without a cost to both the terrorists and to the civilians among whom they hide and shelter.

Holocaust denier

Giselle needs a job.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-underreported-study-intl/index.html

That’s for the POS Zionist ghouls who continue to make false claims regarding the death toll in the genocidal Israeli operations in Gaza, claiming over and over again that hardly anyone has actually been killed ...

I don't think the death toll is in all that much dispute. There is the question of who the casualties are, with the Gazan authorities claiming only women and children are casualties, with the terrorists left untouched, which seems more than a little mendacious. What seems to be more the issue is whether the Palestinians and Hamas can stop the death toll from rising, which they obviously both can and also won't. They prefer to keep goading Israel and suffering the consequences.

Israel could abandon the hostages and just absorb the terrorist activity without response, the preferred approach of the Hamas sympathizers.

Or, the IDF could continue to work towards neutralization of terrorism, which is what it is doing. That is not without a cost to both the terrorists and to the civilians among whom they hide and shelter.

1. Nobody is a Hamas sympathizer, but nice try with that perspective false claim.

2. Actually, people like you have REPEATEDLY and DESPICABLY disputed the death toll in Gaza, going so far as to assert that the death toll is a fraction of what the health ministry in Gaza has reported (wrong) and that, despite even the IDF concurring that most of the dead are non-combatant civilians, the majority killed have been militant members of Hamas (wrong again).

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-underreported-study-intl/index.html

That’s for the POS Zionist ghouls who continue to make false claims regarding the death toll in the genocidal Israeli operations in Gaza, claiming over and over again that hardly anyone has actually been killed ...

I don't think the death toll is in all that much dispute. There is the question of who the casualties are, with the Gazan authorities claiming only women and children are casualties, with the terrorists left untouched, which seems more than a little mendacious. What seems to be more the issue is whether the Palestinians and Hamas can stop the death toll from rising, which they obviously both can and also won't. They prefer to keep goading Israel and suffering the consequences.

Israel could abandon the hostages and just absorb the terrorist activity without response, the preferred approach of the Hamas sympathizers.

Or, the IDF could continue to work towards neutralization of terrorism, which is what it is doing. That is not without a cost to both the terrorists and to the civilians among whom they hide and shelter.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-underreported-study-intl/index.html

That’s for the POS Zionist ghouls who continue to make false claims regarding the death toll in the genocidal Israeli operations in Gaza, claiming over and over again that hardly anyone has actually been killed ...

Anonymous wrote:FAFO zombie troll is just the latest spox iteration for the “Israeli war crimes are justified because I say so” hasbara blitzkrieg.

First, it’s wave after wave of “Israel has a right to defend itself!”, predicated on an insistence that everyone pretend that world history began on 10/7. Obviously, that imbecilic logic falls apart under the faintest of scrutiny.

Next, they pivot to the laughably preposterous assertion that “Israel has no choice but to practice preemptive self-defense to ensure its own safety in the region”.

Finally, they find their backstop at “Well, it doesn’t matter anyway. We won’t be held accountable by anyone, nobody can stop us, and the lives of the people we’re butchering are so insignificant anyway - nobody will even remember what we’ve done in 20 years.”

If that restatement of exactly what the FAFO guy has regurgitated here every day for the past 6 weeks or so DOESN’T immediately trigger a thought in your mind that his arguments are nigh identical to the arguments that would have been made by Nazi Germany 85 years ago, you’re just not paying attention.

+1000

Israel has become the new Nazi Germany. It's racist hubris will be its downfall.

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Anonymous wrote:As Kirby stated, Hamas started this, and Hamas can end it.

This. Return the hostages-ALL of them.

Yes let’s start with all the Palestinians who have been held by the Israelis for years and years. End the evil now

Anonymous wrote:As Kirby stated, Hamas started this, and Hamas can end it.

This. Return the hostages-ALL of them.

FAFO zombie troll is just the latest spox iteration for the “Israeli war crimes are justified because I say so” hasbara blitzkrieg.

First, it’s wave after wave of “Israel has a right to defend itself!”, predicated on an insistence that everyone pretend that world history began on 10/7. Obviously, that imbecilic logic falls apart under the faintest of scrutiny.

Next, they pivot to the laughably preposterous assertion that “Israel has no choice but to practice preemptive self-defense to ensure its own safety in the region”.

Finally, they find their backstop at “Well, it doesn’t matter anyway. We won’t be held accountable by anyone, nobody can stop us, and the lives of the people we’re butchering are so insignificant anyway - nobody will even remember what we’ve done in 20 years.”

If that restatement of exactly what the FAFO guy has regurgitated here every day for the past 6 weeks or so DOESN’T immediately trigger a thought in your mind that his arguments are nigh identical to the arguments that would have been made by Nazi Germany 85 years ago, you’re just not paying attention.

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Anonymous wrote:It's hard to have any sympathy for Hamas and their supporters after the attack in New Orleans. Islamic extremists like those that support Hamas and ISIS are a danger to all civilization. It's baffling why so many progressives are such supporters of Islamic extremists like Hamas. I hope the FBI investigates every protester spray painting Globalize the Intifada and other violent pro-Palestinian slogans. They are radicalized and dangerous.

But the babies the IDF snipes are not. Most of the victims are innocent and do not deserve to be murdered.

They are collateral damage.

Casualties of war.

A war hamas started.

FAFO.

Hamas didn't start the war. No one fighting today started the war.

It's wrong to think that people don't have agency. You may think everything froze in 1918 with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. But life has moved on. More than 150 new independent countries have been formed since then. Even Palestinians were gifted an independent state out of the ruins of the Ottoman Empire.

But the unfortunate fact is that Palestinians make stupid decision after stupid decision. From rejecting their own country in 1947 to invading Israel on 10/7 and committing all those atrocities. The rest of the planet has moved on from 1918. Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and others have all been independent countries for a very long while now and have put the Ottoman Empire behind them. And meanwhile Palestinians in Gaza and their supporters still think we can revisit the Versailles Conference.

It's pathetic. There is no mature civil society among Palestinians. There has never been an independent Palestinian state ever. Even the word "Palestinian" is new. The world has been trying to give Arabs in the region a separate state for a 100 years. And what we now call Palestinians always choose war and terror. It's not a surprise that every country in the region rejects Palestinians.

For more than 60 years, Palestinians have either chosen Yasser Arafat idiocy or Hamas extremism. That's not a lot to work with. During the decolonization period, most of the rest of the world chose capable leaders. And meanwhile Palestinians in Gaza chose a bunch of thugs to invade Israel and murder kids and farmers and carry back dead women like war trophies. We all saw the videos.

I genuinely feel bad for everyone under the age of 37 in Gaza. They never had a chance to vote in 2006 when Palestinians in Gaza elected Hamas. But for Palestinians over 37? They brought this disaster.