Anonymous wrote:Only straight women could call Sydney Sweeney (Olivia) unattractive. She is drop dead gorgeous.

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Anonymous wrote:The show would have been so much better if there was some nuance to Shane instead of making him a one note parody of an unlikeable bro that everyone in the crowd can root against.

So many instances where the show's creators clearly think their audience is too dumb to grasp things unless they pound you over the head with it.

I think he did have a little nuance. He had a few moments where he showed some actual caring about Rachel. He looked genuinely shaken up when he stabbed Armand. He and his mom have a real relationship!

I didn’t understand how Rachel could fall in love and marry him, then hate all his personality traits as soon as the honeymoon started.
They portray her as innocent, but to get that far in the relationship she had to totally ignore some huge red flags.

She is a gold digger and had temporary remorse which she quickly overcame.

I don’t think she’s a gold digger, at least not consciously. Shane was a rebound guy, she enjoyed the perks of his wealth and everything moved too fast. I think she’s weak and naive, but not conniving.

+1 She looked miserable at the airport when she took him back. She is not happy.

In the end she decided to make the "faustian bargain" (her words when she was confiding in Belinda), but it's obvious she is conflicted/not happy about it and who knows how that turns out down the road. It isn't clear if she ended up having a chance to talk to her mother about what she was feeling before reuniting with Shane at the airport.

She was so spoiled and delusional. The best thing Shane did was leave her alone. Lonely loser. Followed by Belinda bailing, again Alone. She smartened up. I still don’t understand why she couldn’t work with Shane. So what he might get annoyed? She really needs to mature. I actually think they were a great couple, probably just what each other needed, opposites so as not to indulge each other’s worst instincts.

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Anonymous wrote:The show would have been so much better if there was some nuance to Shane instead of making him a one note parody of an unlikeable bro that everyone in the crowd can root against.

So many instances where the show's creators clearly think their audience is too dumb to grasp things unless they pound you over the head with it.

I think he did have a little nuance. He had a few moments where he showed some actual caring about Rachel. He looked genuinely shaken up when he stabbed Armand. He and his mom have a real relationship!

I didn’t understand how Rachel could fall in love and marry him, then hate all his personality traits as soon as the honeymoon started.
They portray her as innocent, but to get that far in the relationship she had to totally ignore some huge red flags.

She is a gold digger and had temporary remorse which she quickly overcame.

I don’t think she’s a gold digger, at least not consciously. Shane was a rebound guy, she enjoyed the perks of his wealth and everything moved too fast. I think she’s weak and naive, but not conniving.

+1 She looked miserable at the airport when she took him back. She is not happy.

In the end she decided to make the "faustian bargain" (her words when she was confiding in Belinda), but it's obvious she is conflicted/not happy about it and who knows how that turns out down the road. It isn't clear if she ended up having a chance to talk to her mother about what she was feeling before reuniting with Shane at the airport.

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Anonymous wrote:I really wanted to love this show based on how much everyone raved about it. I just think it had high aspirations and it failed on every level. It wasn't funny or mysterious at all.

They killed the best character of all. Did I miss something?

I agree. I think it over-relied on the sound track to build tension but the plot and dialogue were meh. I found it all ultimately depressing

Anonymous wrote:Mike White should be a bigger star - will be very interested to see if he can keep it up for Season 2 with a whole new cast.

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Anonymous wrote:I figure that if a character looks like crap, it’s because that’s what the director ordered. Nothing to do with how the performer looks in real life or in another production.

Good point. I can't think of one scene where Olivia looked good. I totally admit I am almost 50, grew up in TX and I don't do no makeup. I do my hair and often travel with a hair dryer. You just didn't leave the house looking not put together even if looking put together is dated by today's standards.

I am being totally judgemental, sorry, not sorry, but there is so much less of a premium put on the idea of looking nice.

I will walk away with my cane now. "Get off my lawn!"

I'm sure you look great but all that has nothing to do with what a college student from NYC would look like. She was aggressively playing down her looks, and it was clearly intentional.

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Anonymous wrote:I figure that if a character looks like crap, it’s because that’s what the director ordered. Nothing to do with how the performer looks in real life or in another production.

Good point. I can't think of one scene where Olivia looked good. I totally admit I am almost 50, grew up in TX and I don't do no makeup. I do my hair and often travel with a hair dryer. You just didn't leave the house looking not put together even if looking put together is dated by today's standards.

I am being totally judgemental, sorry, not sorry, but there is so much less of a premium put on the idea of looking nice.

I will walk away with my cane now. "Get off my lawn!"

Anonymous wrote:I figure that if a character looks like crap, it’s because that’s what the director ordered. Nothing to do with how the performer looks in real life or in another production.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah something is wrong with her eyes. Looks vaguely FAS.

So jelly like lime green jello…

Definitely don’t wish I had FAS.

This girl does not look like she has FAS. She is a cute girl with a hot body. You are just being mean.

Do you know what FAS looks like? I have to assume you don’t since she looks at least like it’s possible.

You can’t stop with your cruel remarks. Now go back to your miserable life

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah something is wrong with her eyes. Looks vaguely FAS.

So jelly like lime green jello…

Definitely don’t wish I had FAS.

This girl does not look like she has FAS. She is a cute girl with a hot body. You are just being mean.

Do you know what FAS looks like? I have to assume you don’t since she looks at least like it’s possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah something is wrong with her eyes. Looks vaguely FAS.

So jelly like lime green jello…

Do you have FAS? Is that why you’re delusionally calling everyone jelly? No wants to look syndromic sorry.

Your mother does