Anonymous
09/21/2020 16:54
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The TJ test- is it given to all students or just students who apply?
Only to interested kids who apply. Why give another test to kids with no interest in STEM?
And why should kids with a 3.5 gpa and in Algebra have no standardized mechanism of measuring their acumen in math otherwise just randomly get in?
Because FCPS can set their benchmark where they deem appropriate. Just like they spent years turning a blind eye to pervasive cheating.
Anonymous
09/21/2020 15:15
Subject: Re:Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Virginia is a rock solid blue state, trending toward progressive. You get what you vote for. Enjoy!
What's your point? NY is a much bluer state and NYC an even bluer city, but the excellent magnet schools in NYC are not just letting kids in by lottery.
Anonymous
09/21/2020 11:53
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The entire process has been compromised for the class of 2024. (See the other thread)
There are likely dozens of children that would have gained admission if the company had not systematically coached children to cheat.
If I was TJ Admissions, I would investigate. I would also offer admission to every child on the waitlist, especially if they are from a minority group or a girl.
I would emphasize that we only have hard and incontrovertible evidence of fraud for 2024, but we have circumstantial evidence of fraud for at least 2023 as well, given that 2022 was the first year of the Quant-Q.
Nice trolling. Typical, hiding behind an anonymous message board to make false allegations.
If you have proof, you hand over evidence to proper authorities, prosecute them to the full extent. No one tolerates cheating. What are we teaching kids? I have no idea, but I do want to get to the truth. Why do I dont see this mentioned anywhere, no reference to any investigation, no reference to any evidence.
No, a message board comment is not evidence
Have courage to put your name behind it. Dont be a wimp hiding behind anonymous message board. Are you such a pathetic loser?
What Curie did is not a crime. It's wrong, it's dishonest, and it compromises what was supposed to be a merit-based admissions process, but it's not a crime. Therefore, there will be no investigation, no inquiry, no anything.
FCPS has all the evidence it needs - which Curie handed everyone on a silver platter - to eliminate the exam. The lists of 51, then 95, then 133 students successfully applying from one prep program shows that TJ admissions can very much be a pay-to-play enterprise, which is inappropriate for a public school.
And that will be Curie's legacy - being so effective for the families that chose to pay for them and invest the time and resources that many families do not have - that they partially resulted in the institution of this "merit lottery" system that will probably directly harm Indian families for years to come.
I hear Curie is preparing for a defamation suit.
Against who, exactly? Who is the defendant?
FCPS has very smartly refrained from referencing them by name in any way during this process. It's hard to imagine anyone who would actually be a defendant here.
Anonymous
09/21/2020 11:31
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The entire process has been compromised for the class of 2024. (See the other thread)
There are likely dozens of children that would have gained admission if the company had not systematically coached children to cheat.
If I was TJ Admissions, I would investigate. I would also offer admission to every child on the waitlist, especially if they are from a minority group or a girl.
I would emphasize that we only have hard and incontrovertible evidence of fraud for 2024, but we have circumstantial evidence of fraud for at least 2023 as well, given that 2022 was the first year of the Quant-Q.
Nice trolling. Typical, hiding behind an anonymous message board to make false allegations.
If you have proof, you hand over evidence to proper authorities, prosecute them to the full extent. No one tolerates cheating. What are we teaching kids? I have no idea, but I do want to get to the truth. Why do I dont see this mentioned anywhere, no reference to any investigation, no reference to any evidence.
No, a message board comment is not evidence
Have courage to put your name behind it. Dont be a wimp hiding behind anonymous message board. Are you such a pathetic loser?
What Curie did is not a crime. It's wrong, it's dishonest, and it compromises what was supposed to be a merit-based admissions process, but it's not a crime. Therefore, there will be no investigation, no inquiry, no anything.
FCPS has all the evidence it needs - which Curie handed everyone on a silver platter - to eliminate the exam. The lists of 51, then 95, then 133 students successfully applying from one prep program shows that TJ admissions can very much be a pay-to-play enterprise, which is inappropriate for a public school.
And that will be Curie's legacy - being so effective for the families that chose to pay for them and invest the time and resources that many families do not have - that they partially resulted in the institution of this "merit lottery" system that will probably directly harm Indian families for years to come.
I hear Curie is preparing for a defamation suit.
Against who, exactly? Who is the defendant?
Anonymous
09/21/2020 11:25
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The entire process has been compromised for the class of 2024. (See the other thread)
There are likely dozens of children that would have gained admission if the company had not systematically coached children to cheat.
If I was TJ Admissions, I would investigate. I would also offer admission to every child on the waitlist, especially if they are from a minority group or a girl.
I would emphasize that we only have hard and incontrovertible evidence of fraud for 2024, but we have circumstantial evidence of fraud for at least 2023 as well, given that 2022 was the first year of the Quant-Q.
Nice trolling. Typical, hiding behind an anonymous message board to make false allegations.
If you have proof, you hand over evidence to proper authorities, prosecute them to the full extent. No one tolerates cheating. What are we teaching kids? I have no idea, but I do want to get to the truth. Why do I dont see this mentioned anywhere, no reference to any investigation, no reference to any evidence.
No, a message board comment is not evidence
Have courage to put your name behind it. Dont be a wimp hiding behind anonymous message board. Are you such a pathetic loser?
What Curie did is not a crime. It's wrong, it's dishonest, and it compromises what was supposed to be a merit-based admissions process, but it's not a crime. Therefore, there will be no investigation, no inquiry, no anything.
FCPS has all the evidence it needs - which Curie handed everyone on a silver platter - to eliminate the exam. The lists of 51, then 95, then 133 students successfully applying from one prep program shows that TJ admissions can very much be a pay-to-play enterprise, which is inappropriate for a public school.
And that will be Curie's legacy - being so effective for the families that chose to pay for them and invest the time and resources that many families do not have - that they partially resulted in the institution of this "merit lottery" system that will probably directly harm Indian families for years to come.
I hear Curie is preparing for a defamation suit.
Anonymous
09/21/2020 11:15
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The entire process has been compromised for the class of 2024. (See the other thread)
There are likely dozens of children that would have gained admission if the company had not systematically coached children to cheat.
If I was TJ Admissions, I would investigate. I would also offer admission to every child on the waitlist, especially if they are from a minority group or a girl.
I would emphasize that we only have hard and incontrovertible evidence of fraud for 2024, but we have circumstantial evidence of fraud for at least 2023 as well, given that 2022 was the first year of the Quant-Q.
Nice trolling. Typical, hiding behind an anonymous message board to make false allegations.
If you have proof, you hand over evidence to proper authorities, prosecute them to the full extent. No one tolerates cheating. What are we teaching kids? I have no idea, but I do want to get to the truth. Why do I dont see this mentioned anywhere, no reference to any investigation, no reference to any evidence.
No, a message board comment is not evidence
Have courage to put your name behind it. Dont be a wimp hiding behind anonymous message board. Are you such a pathetic loser?
What Curie did is not a crime. It's wrong, it's dishonest, and it compromises what was supposed to be a merit-based admissions process, but it's not a crime. Therefore, there will be no investigation, no inquiry, no anything.
FCPS has all the evidence it needs - which Curie handed everyone on a silver platter - to eliminate the exam. The lists of 51, then 95, then 133 students successfully applying from one prep program shows that TJ admissions can very much be a pay-to-play enterprise, which is inappropriate for a public school.
And that will be Curie's legacy - being so effective for the families that chose to pay for them and invest the time and resources that many families do not have - that they partially resulted in the institution of this "merit lottery" system that will probably directly harm Indian families for years to come.
Anonymous
09/21/2020 10:56
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The entire process has been compromised for the class of 2024. (See the other thread)
There are likely dozens of children that would have gained admission if the company had not systematically coached children to cheat.
If I was TJ Admissions, I would investigate. I would also offer admission to every child on the waitlist, especially if they are from a minority group or a girl.
I would emphasize that we only have hard and incontrovertible evidence of fraud for 2024, but we have circumstantial evidence of fraud for at least 2023 as well, given that 2022 was the first year of the Quant-Q.
Feel so sorry for your kids! Such a whiny loser for a parent!!!
Anonymous
09/21/2020 10:54
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The entire process has been compromised for the class of 2024. (See the other thread)
There are likely dozens of children that would have gained admission if the company had not systematically coached children to cheat.
If I was TJ Admissions, I would investigate. I would also offer admission to every child on the waitlist, especially if they are from a minority group or a girl.
I would emphasize that we only have hard and incontrovertible evidence of fraud for 2024, but we have circumstantial evidence of fraud for at least 2023 as well, given that 2022 was the first year of the Quant-Q.
Nice trolling. Typical, hiding behind an anonymous message board to make false allegations.
If you have proof, you hand over evidence to proper authorities, prosecute them to the full extent. No one tolerates cheating. What are we teaching kids? I have no idea, but I do want to get to the truth. Why do I dont see this mentioned anywhere, no reference to any investigation, no reference to any evidence.
No, a message board comment is not evidence
Have courage to put your name behind it. Dont be a wimp hiding behind anonymous message board. Are you such a pathetic loser?
Anonymous
09/21/2020 09:36
Subject: Re:Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Virginia is a rock solid blue state, trending toward progressive. You get what you vote for. Enjoy!
Affirmative action or consideration of race will be gone within 2 years. Deep Red Supreme Court trumps deep blue state. Haha
Anonymous
09/21/2020 09:34
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The TJ test- is it given to all students or just students who apply?
Only to interested kids who apply. Why give another test to kids with no interest in STEM?
And why should kids with a 3.5 gpa and in Algebra have no standardized mechanism of measuring their acumen in math otherwise just randomly get in?
They probably won't, just like they didn't under the previous system. The standards for getting into the merit lottery will almost certainly be much higher. The existence of the 3.5 being where it is is to drive applications and maybe find a few diamonds in the rough to pop into the lottery.
Anonymous
09/21/2020 09:20
Subject: Re:Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Virginia is a rock solid blue state, trending toward progressive. You get what you vote for. Enjoy!
Anonymous
09/17/2020 21:42
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The TJ test- is it given to all students or just students who apply?
Only to interested kids who apply. Why give another test to kids with no interest in STEM?
And why should kids with a 3.5 gpa and in Algebra have no standardized mechanism of measuring their acumen in math otherwise just randomly get in?
Anonymous
09/17/2020 20:36
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:The TJ test- is it given to all students or just students who apply?
Only to interested kids who apply. Why give another test to kids with no interest in STEM?
Anonymous
09/17/2020 20:08
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
The TJ test- is it given to all students or just students who apply?
Anonymous
09/17/2020 20:02
Subject: Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am okay with them taking away the $100 fee.
I am also okay with them taking away the test.
But making it a random lottery for anyone in algebra with a 3.5 GPA? Why 3.5? Make it 3.8 for crying out loud.
They need to show that they really want to go there. A great essay sounds like a good start. Maybe they could take the SCAT and do well too.
Random is never representative. Will they promise to not “cream” the students and ask kids who are failing to leave? No. This is going to end up being like BASIS in AZ.
Well, there are two approaches:
1. Keep TJ incredibly rigorous, and let people wash out who don't belong. After a few years, kids will stop applying if they look like they will fail out of the program. Froshmore admissions will drastically increase.
2. Lower the standards to help make everyone who is admitted be "successful" in the program.
Honestly, I'd prefer choice 1 of the two choices. Even if TJ reverts to being mostly Asian, it's more palatable to say that everyone has equal opportunity to attend, and beyond that, success or failure is on the kid's shoulders.
Raise the GPA To 3.8. Add an essay and provide testing prep for free. (Testingmom.com for instance gives online testing prep).
But also- the race disparity is not just because of the asians. Some people just don’t want to go. Make sure the people who apply want to go.
Lowering the standards of entry will destroy the school because the kids who don’t really want to be there won’t survive.