Anonymous wrote:When "neighborhood character" is to protect a neighborhood that was built on exlcusionary clauses in deeds and redlining, then it isn't character worth preserving.

Single family homes, duplexes and trees/green areas. That this type of character drives GGW wild with desire to bring in the cement trucks has nothing to do with exclusionary clauses 100 years ago, and you know it. It is worth preserving, and Black families buy SFHomes in Ward 3 as well like our family.. Not sure why you are devlopersplainin to us what's worth preserving.

When "neighborhood character" is to protect a neighborhood that was built on exlcusionary clauses in deeds and redlining, then it isn't character worth preserving.

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Anonymous wrote:And I'm talking about post-riots through the 90s, an era in DC which pro developer millennials have zero idea what the "landscape' was like. It wasn't perfect. It had been burned out. Rampant, thoughtless development isn't perfect either, as we see in many rushed development areas in DC. See today's Post article about the impact of development around the ballpark on the neighborhood around. Concrete dust, rats, and amenities that they can't afford. Some thought to services needed by longstanding residents would apparently be appreciated Are they NIMBYS for asking for that? Completely thoughtless development just for development sake sucks, and we see it for what it is ($$$).

Well, before the ballpark there were some converted warehouses into nightclubs, some light industrial and a bed and breafast, and concrete factory spewing dust, so.......

You can read the article and consider the concerns of the neighbors. There are many kinds of NIMBYS in DC I guess, and none of us count when the developers sweep in. FWIW I'm a capitalist and I'm fine with gentrification. I don't however think that neighborhood character or needs should be discounted, or that the developers profit margin can't be challenged by said. We don't "owe" anything to developers.

Anonymous wrote:14th street has always been “lively”??? Wow. Yeah it was certainly lively during the year’s it was filled with porno theaters prostitutes and drugs. Lively indeed

+1
And boarded up businesses and winos

Anonymous wrote:And I'm talking about post-riots through the 90s, an era in DC which pro developer millennials have zero idea what the "landscape' was like. It wasn't perfect. It had been burned out. Rampant, thoughtless development isn't perfect either, as we see in many rushed development areas in DC. See today's Post article about the impact of development around the ballpark on the neighborhood around. Concrete dust, rats, and amenities that they can't afford. Some thought to services needed by longstanding residents would apparently be appreciated Are they NIMBYS for asking for that? Completely thoughtless development just for development sake sucks, and we see it for what it is ($$$).

Well, before the ballpark there were some converted warehouses into nightclubs, some light industrial and a bed and breafast, and concrete factory spewing dust, so.......

14th street has always been “lively”??? Wow. Yeah it was certainly lively during the year’s it was filled with porno theaters prostitutes and drugs. Lively indeed

And I'm talking about post-riots through the 90s, an era in DC which pro developer millennials have zero idea what the "landscape' was like. It wasn't perfect. It had been burned out. Rampant, thoughtless development isn't perfect either, as we see in many rushed development areas in DC. See today's Post article about the impact of development around the ballpark on the neighborhood around. Concrete dust, rats, and amenities that they can't afford. Some thought to services needed by longstanding residents would apparently be appreciated Are they NIMBYS for asking for that? Completely thoughtless development just for development sake sucks, and we see it for what it is ($$$).

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Anonymous wrote:Simply put, yes you've forgotten. It was very quiet and besides historic apartment buildings it was not built up at all in the area around Logan Circle

14th street has always been lively. It is more lively and denser now, but it isn't like Logan Circle was the nirvana of peace and solitude 20 years ago. You are talking about 2000/2001. Seriously, for some of us, it wasn't that long ago.

14th street has always been lively? No. It hasn't..I didn't claim it was nirvana..I said it wasn't dense like today which was the original claim. Boy you wiggle a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh is in the pocket of the developers who want more inventory to sell.

Or maybe she represents the DC residents who voted for her?

And maybe you should move to a suburban neighborhood, which sounds like what you are looking for.

A.lot of suburbs have density. Everytime I drive down Wisconsin' through Bethesda I'm relieved to get back to low profile, leafy Tenleytown . Maybe you should move to the suburbs?

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh is in the pocket of the developers who want more inventory to sell.

Or maybe she represents the DC residents who voted for her?

And maybe you should move to a suburban neighborhood, which sounds like what you are looking for.

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh is in the pocket of the developers who want more inventory to sell.

I live in Cleveland Park, Im a supporter of growth for DC. But people who want to get rid of the height limits and zoning are conservative pro-development destroyers of culture and architecture. They don't care about living in a humane city. They should just move out to the featureless suburbs and let the people who love this city love it as it is. Also, If they all leave, prices would get cheaper.

Well, I guess if you call me dehumanizing names, then you don’t have to actually listen to me, or anyone else.

Do you even know what your words mean? “Conservative” means a defender of the status quo… against progress! So it is you who is the conservative.

But anyway, I’ll take the bait:

Specifically, what is the “culture” you say will be destroyed?

Ditto the architecture?

That hideous strip mall on Connecticut and Ordway been designated a historic landmark b/c it was built with a parking lot in front! What an eyesore and absolute waste of an opportunity literally ON TOP of a Metro stop.

Anonymous wrote:I grew up here. In my childhood, Logan circle was a great place to go for prostitution. How historic!

Seriously, “historic” in a city that was founded in 1790 is an “only in America” joke. My house was supposedly built in 1905. How historic!

Tokyo. Now there’s a city that know how to build more housing. Within a country that has thousands of years of history.

There is no reason we shouldn't have Tokyo style density outside of the Federal core. None.

I grew up here. In my childhood, Logan circle was a great place to go for prostitution. How historic!

Seriously, “historic” in a city that was founded in 1790 is an “only in America” joke. My house was supposedly built in 1905. How historic!

Tokyo. Now there’s a city that know how to build more housing. Within a country that has thousands of years of history.

Anonymous wrote:Simply put, yes you've forgotten. It was very quiet and besides historic apartment buildings it was not built up at all in the area around Logan Circle

14th street has always been lively. It is more lively and denser now, but it isn't like Logan Circle was the nirvana of peace and solitude 20 years ago. You are talking about 2000/2001. Seriously, for some of us, it wasn't that long ago.

Simply put, yes you've forgotten. It was very quiet and besides historic apartment buildings it was not built up at all in the area around Logan Circle