Anonymous wrote:The most important thing in the story linked above is that forensic experts concluded that it was not Zimmerman crying out for help on the 911 tape. I don't see how anyone could listen to that tape knowing it was Trayvon Martin crying out "help" and "no" and believe there is any case for self-defense. The boy was begging for his life in the final moment.

Anonymous wrote:Boom goes the dynamite

Large cut on back of Zimmerman's head consistent with side walk bashing

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-video-zimmerman-enhanced-20120402_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-shooting-original-video

Anonymous wrote:Boom goes the dynamite

Large cut on back of Zimmerman's head consistent with side walk bashing

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-video-zimmerman-enhanced-20120402_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-shooting-original-video

Anonymous wrote:Boom goes the dynamite

Large cut on back of Zimmerman's head consistent with side walk bashing

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-video-zimmerman-enhanced-20120402_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-shooting-original-video

Anonymous wrote:Boom goes the dynamite

Large cut on back of Zimmerman's head consistent with side walk bashing

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-video-zimmerman-enhanced-20120402_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-shooting-original-video

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Anonymous wrote:well, unfortunately, I'm guessing 90% of the robberies in that neighborhood were committed by black teens wearing hoodies. that is the unfortunate reality. so while it means nothing with respect to guilt or innocence, it was not totally unreasonable for Z to think the victim was up to no good. Right?

I can't believe what I just read. From what you are saying it follows that a straight A student with perfect behavior, high SES family, wearing a hoodie while black walking though a nice neighborhood, can reasonably be assumed to be up to no good and shot to death. I just wish that people who think like this can be more easily identified as i would not want to have any kind of friendship with such people.

My 10 year old daughter said to me "is it okay for someone to shoot a kid and say he felt threatened by the kid because he was black and wearing a hoodie? Does hat mean that black kids cannot wear hoodies? Even I know that is wrong and if the police did not arrest the man or investigate then they didn't do their job"
From the mouth of babes.

Is that what you taught your child to ask? Or if his twitter name should be "no limit n****"?Is your child also asking you if it's ok to get suspended from school for possession of stolen jewelry?

Don't be so sensational. Just teach your kids to be good people

Yeah, I wish I could. Except that my black son, who walks to the store to buy candy and Arizona iced tea all the time, has been suspended too. I cannot imagine him getting killed by a nut and people offering this information. So what? He's been suspended. He also makes straight As and has an extremely high IQ. Unfortunately, he is a kid. A sweet, but sometimes dumb kid. BTW, they never proved that the jewelry was stolen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well, unfortunately, I'm guessing 90% of the robberies in that neighborhood were committed by black teens wearing hoodies. that is the unfortunate reality. so while it means nothing with respect to guilt or innocence, it was not totally unreasonable for Z to think the victim was up to no good. Right?

I can't believe what I just read. From what you are saying it follows that a straight A student with perfect behavior, high SES family, wearing a hoodie while black walking though a nice neighborhood, can reasonably be assumed to be up to no good and shot to death. I just wish that people who think like this can be more easily identified as i would not want to have any kind of friendship with such people.

My 10 year old daughter said to me "is it okay for someone to shoot a kid and say he felt threatened by the kid because he was black and wearing a hoodie? Does hat mean that black kids cannot wear hoodies? Even I know that is wrong and if the police did not arrest the man or investigate then they didn't do their job"
From the mouth of babes.

Is that what you taught your child to ask? Or if his twitter name should be "no limit n****"?Is your child also asking you if it's ok to get suspended from school for possession of stolen jewelry?

Don't be so sensational. Just teach your kids to be good people

Yeah, I wish I could. Except that my black son, who walks to the store to buy candy and Arizona iced tea all the time, has been suspended too. I cannot imagine him getting killed by a nut and people offering this information. So what? He's been suspended. He also makes straight As and has an extremely high IQ. Unfortunately, he is a kid. A sweet, but sometimes dumb kid. BTW, they never proved that the jewelry was stolen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well, unfortunately, I'm guessing 90% of the robberies in that neighborhood were committed by black teens wearing hoodies. that is the unfortunate reality. so while it means nothing with respect to guilt or innocence, it was not totally unreasonable for Z to think the victim was up to no good. Right?

I can't believe what I just read. From what you are saying it follows that a straight A student with perfect behavior, high SES family, wearing a hoodie while black walking though a nice neighborhood, can reasonably be assumed to be up to no good and shot to death. I just wish that people who think like this can be more easily identified as i would not want to have any kind of friendship with such people.

My 10 year old daughter said to me "is it okay for someone to shoot a kid and say he felt threatened by the kid because he was black and wearing a hoodie? Does hat mean that black kids cannot wear hoodies? Even I know that is wrong and if the police did not arrest the man or investigate then they didn't do their job"
From the mouth of babes.

Is that what you taught your child to ask? Or if his twitter name should be "no limit n****"?Is your child also asking you if it's ok to get suspended from school for possession of stolen jewelry?

Don't be so sensational. Just teach your kids to be good people

Anonymous wrote:Wannabe gangbanger killed by wannabe cop, case closed

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure if this matters or not, but in one of the 911 tapes, Zimmerman is saying that T is staring at him and walking toward him. Of course that doesn't justify Zimmerman's actions, but doesn't that play into the self defense angle or at least show that T wasn't running away all the time?[/quote

I think it depends on where and when. If I were standing in my front yard, staring at you, as you walked down the street "toward" me, but then YOU KEPT WALKING PAST ME and I got in my car and followed you as you kept on your way - AWAY from me, then no, that does not help the self defense angle.

TM was trying to quickly get away, get home to safety, at the time of the Z initiated confrontation.