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Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?

Should be about working class but won't be. Will try to please the neverT-mpers to the other end. Third party is needed.

LOL should be about the working class…both parties are losing their head over Mandani. Yet, not about the blatant corruption.

MAGA is facilitating the greatest transfer of power right now, and still that’s not good enough for you that Dems are fighting it tooth and nail and have been doing lives all night on IG. SMDH.

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Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?

Should be about working class but won't be. Will try to please the neverT-mpers to the other end. Third party is needed.

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Anonymous wrote:Rights of gun owners supersede that of children (who can’t even vote). Nobody seems to have a problem with that, which is a much bigger problem than trans taking away your child’s deserved first place medal (which probably didn’t even happen to you).

💯

It is shocking to me how many parents are so flip about this. Terrified of trans and certain books in schools. But guns? 🤷‍♀️

Yeah well when parents can see tiktoks of teachers saying wild things like they're transitioning children in the classrooms without informing parents, and then CA leans hard into it, people are going to nope themselves away from voting D.

You take it up with the teacher, the principal, the school board, etc. You know what most rationale people would do.

You do not burn the entire country down. Beyond comprehension.

Look, the fact that this is an electoral issue at all suggests that voters feel they are not being heard at the local level. If voters felt that school boards, teachers, principals, etc were actually listening, this would not have been the resonant issue it was in November 2024.

This thread is full of Democratic partisans who seem to still believe, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that they can stomp their feet and demand voters only care about the issues that these partisans deem acceptable for voters to care about. That is frankly delusional. You need to embrace reality if you want to ever win at the national level again. Meet the voters where they are.

We could have this conversation if Trump won by an overwhelming majority, he didn’t.

It does not matter whether he won by three votes or 30 million votes. The point is that trans rights and gender ideology is and was an electoral issue, whether you like it or not. The closeness alone makes it an electoral issue.

Please face reality. As someone who thinks it is important for the future of this country to get MAGA out of power, I am begging you and all other Democratic partisans to face reality on this issue.

I am not a Democratic strategist. So no need to beg me to do anything differently.

But:


Democratic policies are aligned with where most voters are in this country:

-healthcare
-common sense gun legislation
-addressing climate change
-women’s reproductive rights
-protecting voting rights

I’m a pro choice union teacher who believes in climate change and supports LGBTQIA+ rights - BUT - I vote Republican most of the time because Democrats are obsessed with banning guns.

Get rid of this obsession with banning guns and I’d vote straight ticket Dem.

I appreciate the sentiment but your positions are unusual enough that optimizing for your particular political alignment will not get the Democrats very far.

Looking at the top electoral issues in the past election, gun control was not much of an issue for either side. There aren’t recent polls that have shown that has changed.

The Democrats need to campaign on and stand for issues that are swing voter vote-getters. Gun control (either for or against) isn’t one of those now.

What are the R’s going to do that will help anyone? What policies do they have that will help everyday citizens?

Losing take. The Democrats lost, including all swing states. Electorally, the election wasn’t close at all. And they lost key voters in nearly all demographics.

So, the question for the next national election cycle for Democrats should not be what Rs are going to do. The voters already decided they want whatever it is that they think Rs were offering. The question is what Democrats can offer and what positions they can take to persuade voters to move from either not voting, voting third party, or voting for Rs.

The Democratic position can’t be “well, you voters are wrong and let me tell you why.”

Not saying they should do that. Not a strategist! Not running for office!

But no one can seem to answer the question.

R's are deporting illegal aliens, they're making a pretty big show of it.
They are cutting government in meaningless but very visible ways.
They are outlawing DEI and defunding the pillars of ultra left wing orthodoxy like harvard.
Trump just attacked Iran's nuclear infrastructure and there were zero repercussions so far.
Rs are playing fast and loose with the rules but that is what they are doing and ALL of it polls well (even the iran stuff now that it looks like we are not going to be putting boots on the ground).


Meanwhile democrats want to
Ban guns.
Let boys compete with girls.
DEI
More DEI
And even More DEI

Terrorizing people on purpose is no way to lead.

History supports leading in this manner does not end well.

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Anonymous wrote:Rights of gun owners supersede that of children (who can’t even vote). Nobody seems to have a problem with that, which is a much bigger problem than trans taking away your child’s deserved first place medal (which probably didn’t even happen to you).

💯

It is shocking to me how many parents are so flip about this. Terrified of trans and certain books in schools. But guns? 🤷‍♀️

Yeah well when parents can see tiktoks of teachers saying wild things like they're transitioning children in the classrooms without informing parents, and then CA leans hard into it, people are going to nope themselves away from voting D.

You take it up with the teacher, the principal, the school board, etc. You know what most rationale people would do.

You do not burn the entire country down. Beyond comprehension.

Look, the fact that this is an electoral issue at all suggests that voters feel they are not being heard at the local level. If voters felt that school boards, teachers, principals, etc were actually listening, this would not have been the resonant issue it was in November 2024.

This thread is full of Democratic partisans who seem to still believe, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that they can stomp their feet and demand voters only care about the issues that these partisans deem acceptable for voters to care about. That is frankly delusional. You need to embrace reality if you want to ever win at the national level again. Meet the voters where they are.

We could have this conversation if Trump won by an overwhelming majority, he didn’t.

It does not matter whether he won by three votes or 30 million votes. The point is that trans rights and gender ideology is and was an electoral issue, whether you like it or not. The closeness alone makes it an electoral issue.

Please face reality. As someone who thinks it is important for the future of this country to get MAGA out of power, I am begging you and all other Democratic partisans to face reality on this issue.

I am not a Democratic strategist. So no need to beg me to do anything differently.

But:


Democratic policies are aligned with where most voters are in this country:

-healthcare
-common sense gun legislation
-addressing climate change
-women’s reproductive rights
-protecting voting rights

I’m a pro choice union teacher who believes in climate change and supports LGBTQIA+ rights - BUT - I vote Republican most of the time because Democrats are obsessed with banning guns.

Get rid of this obsession with banning guns and I’d vote straight ticket Dem.

I appreciate the sentiment but your positions are unusual enough that optimizing for your particular political alignment will not get the Democrats very far.

Looking at the top electoral issues in the past election, gun control was not much of an issue for either side. There aren’t recent polls that have shown that has changed.

The Democrats need to campaign on and stand for issues that are swing voter vote-getters. Gun control (either for or against) isn’t one of those now.

What are the R’s going to do that will help anyone? What policies do they have that will help everyday citizens?

Losing take. The Democrats lost, including all swing states. Electorally, the election wasn’t close at all. And they lost key voters in nearly all demographics.

So, the question for the next national election cycle for Democrats should not be what Rs are going to do. The voters already decided they want whatever it is that they think Rs were offering. The question is what Democrats can offer and what positions they can take to persuade voters to move from either not voting, voting third party, or voting for Rs.

The Democratic position can’t be “well, you voters are wrong and let me tell you why.”

Not saying they should do that. Not a strategist! Not running for office!

But no one can seem to answer the question.

R's are deporting illegal aliens, they're making a pretty big show of it.
They are cutting government in meaningless but very visible ways.
They are outlawing DEI and defunding the pillars of ultra left wing orthodoxy like harvard.
Trump just attacked Iran's nuclear infrastructure and there were zero repercussions so far.
Rs are playing fast and loose with the rules but that is what they are doing and ALL of it polls well (even the iran stuff now that it looks like we are not going to be putting boots on the ground).


Meanwhile democrats want to
Ban guns.
Let boys compete with girls.
DEI
More DEI
And even More DEI

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Anonymous wrote:Rights of gun owners supersede that of children (who can’t even vote). Nobody seems to have a problem with that, which is a much bigger problem than trans taking away your child’s deserved first place medal (which probably didn’t even happen to you).

💯

It is shocking to me how many parents are so flip about this. Terrified of trans and certain books in schools. But guns? 🤷‍♀️

Yeah well when parents can see tiktoks of teachers saying wild things like they're transitioning children in the classrooms without informing parents, and then CA leans hard into it, people are going to nope themselves away from voting D.

You take it up with the teacher, the principal, the school board, etc. You know what most rationale people would do.

You do not burn the entire country down. Beyond comprehension.

Look, the fact that this is an electoral issue at all suggests that voters feel they are not being heard at the local level. If voters felt that school boards, teachers, principals, etc were actually listening, this would not have been the resonant issue it was in November 2024.

This thread is full of Democratic partisans who seem to still believe, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that they can stomp their feet and demand voters only care about the issues that these partisans deem acceptable for voters to care about. That is frankly delusional. You need to embrace reality if you want to ever win at the national level again. Meet the voters where they are.

We could have this conversation if Trump won by an overwhelming majority, he didn’t.

It does not matter whether he won by three votes or 30 million votes. The point is that trans rights and gender ideology is and was an electoral issue, whether you like it or not. The closeness alone makes it an electoral issue.

Please face reality. As someone who thinks it is important for the future of this country to get MAGA out of power, I am begging you and all other Democratic partisans to face reality on this issue.

I am not a Democratic strategist. So no need to beg me to do anything differently.

But:


Democratic policies are aligned with where most voters are in this country:

-healthcare
-common sense gun legislation
-addressing climate change
-women’s reproductive rights
-protecting voting rights

I’m a pro choice union teacher who believes in climate change and supports LGBTQIA+ rights - BUT - I vote Republican most of the time because Democrats are obsessed with banning guns.

Get rid of this obsession with banning guns and I’d vote straight ticket Dem.

I appreciate the sentiment but your positions are unusual enough that optimizing for your particular political alignment will not get the Democrats very far.

Looking at the top electoral issues in the past election, gun control was not much of an issue for either side. There aren’t recent polls that have shown that has changed.

The Democrats need to campaign on and stand for issues that are swing voter vote-getters. Gun control (either for or against) isn’t one of those now.

What are the R’s going to do that will help anyone? What policies do they have that will help everyday citizens?

Losing take. The Democrats lost, including all swing states. Electorally, the election wasn’t close at all. And they lost key voters in nearly all demographics.

So, the question for the next national election cycle for Democrats should not be what Rs are going to do. The voters already decided they want whatever it is that they think Rs were offering. The question is what Democrats can offer and what positions they can take to persuade voters to move from either not voting, voting third party, or voting for Rs.

The Democratic position can’t be “well, you voters are wrong and let me tell you why.”

Yes and no. In 1968 Democrats could have co-opted the Republican southern strategy and taken civil rights away from blacks, since it largely cost them the solid south. Would you have supported that? Sometimes things are larger than winning elections - sometimes you have to stand for what's right, even if it's not popular. Otherwise you become your enemy.

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Anonymous wrote:Rights of gun owners supersede that of children (who can’t even vote). Nobody seems to have a problem with that, which is a much bigger problem than trans taking away your child’s deserved first place medal (which probably didn’t even happen to you).

💯

It is shocking to me how many parents are so flip about this. Terrified of trans and certain books in schools. But guns? 🤷‍♀️

Yeah well when parents can see tiktoks of teachers saying wild things like they're transitioning children in the classrooms without informing parents, and then CA leans hard into it, people are going to nope themselves away from voting D.

You take it up with the teacher, the principal, the school board, etc. You know what most rationale people would do.

You do not burn the entire country down. Beyond comprehension.

Look, the fact that this is an electoral issue at all suggests that voters feel they are not being heard at the local level. If voters felt that school boards, teachers, principals, etc were actually listening, this would not have been the resonant issue it was in November 2024.

This thread is full of Democratic partisans who seem to still believe, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that they can stomp their feet and demand voters only care about the issues that these partisans deem acceptable for voters to care about. That is frankly delusional. You need to embrace reality if you want to ever win at the national level again. Meet the voters where they are.

We could have this conversation if Trump won by an overwhelming majority, he didn’t.

It does not matter whether he won by three votes or 30 million votes. The point is that trans rights and gender ideology is and was an electoral issue, whether you like it or not. The closeness alone makes it an electoral issue.

Please face reality. As someone who thinks it is important for the future of this country to get MAGA out of power, I am begging you and all other Democratic partisans to face reality on this issue.

I am not a Democratic strategist. So no need to beg me to do anything differently.

But:


Democratic policies are aligned with where most voters are in this country:

-healthcare
-common sense gun legislation
-addressing climate change
-women’s reproductive rights
-protecting voting rights

I’m a pro choice union teacher who believes in climate change and supports LGBTQIA+ rights - BUT - I vote Republican most of the time because Democrats are obsessed with banning guns.

Get rid of this obsession with banning guns and I’d vote straight ticket Dem.

I appreciate the sentiment but your positions are unusual enough that optimizing for your particular political alignment will not get the Democrats very far.

Looking at the top electoral issues in the past election, gun control was not much of an issue for either side. There aren’t recent polls that have shown that has changed.

The Democrats need to campaign on and stand for issues that are swing voter vote-getters. Gun control (either for or against) isn’t one of those now.

What are the R’s going to do that will help anyone? What policies do they have that will help everyday citizens?

Losing take. The Democrats lost, including all swing states. Electorally, the election wasn’t close at all. And they lost key voters in nearly all demographics.

So, the question for the next national election cycle for Democrats should not be what Rs are going to do. The voters already decided they want whatever it is that they think Rs were offering. The question is what Democrats can offer and what positions they can take to persuade voters to move from either not voting, voting third party, or voting for Rs.

The Democratic position can’t be “well, you voters are wrong and let me tell you why.”

Not saying they should do that. Not a strategist! Not running for office!

But no one can seem to answer the question.

R's are deporting illegal aliens, they're making a pretty big show of it.
They are cutting government in meaningless but very visible ways.
They are outlawing DEI and defunding the pillars of ultra left wing orthodoxy like harvard.
Trump just attacked Iran's nuclear infrastructure and there were zero repercussions so far.
Rs are playing fast and loose with the rules but that is what they are doing and ALL of it polls well (even the iran stuff now that it looks like we are not going to be putting boots on the ground).


Meanwhile democrats want to
Ban guns.
Let boys compete with girls.
DEI
More DEI
And even More DEI

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Anonymous wrote:Rights of gun owners supersede that of children (who can’t even vote). Nobody seems to have a problem with that, which is a much bigger problem than trans taking away your child’s deserved first place medal (which probably didn’t even happen to you).

💯

It is shocking to me how many parents are so flip about this. Terrified of trans and certain books in schools. But guns? 🤷‍♀️

Yeah well when parents can see tiktoks of teachers saying wild things like they're transitioning children in the classrooms without informing parents, and then CA leans hard into it, people are going to nope themselves away from voting D.

You take it up with the teacher, the principal, the school board, etc. You know what most rationale people would do.

You do not burn the entire country down. Beyond comprehension.

Look, the fact that this is an electoral issue at all suggests that voters feel they are not being heard at the local level. If voters felt that school boards, teachers, principals, etc were actually listening, this would not have been the resonant issue it was in November 2024.

This thread is full of Democratic partisans who seem to still believe, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that they can stomp their feet and demand voters only care about the issues that these partisans deem acceptable for voters to care about. That is frankly delusional. You need to embrace reality if you want to ever win at the national level again. Meet the voters where they are.

We could have this conversation if Trump won by an overwhelming majority, he didn’t.

It does not matter whether he won by three votes or 30 million votes. The point is that trans rights and gender ideology is and was an electoral issue, whether you like it or not. The closeness alone makes it an electoral issue.

Please face reality. As someone who thinks it is important for the future of this country to get MAGA out of power, I am begging you and all other Democratic partisans to face reality on this issue.

I am not a Democratic strategist. So no need to beg me to do anything differently.

But:


Democratic policies are aligned with where most voters are in this country:

-healthcare
-common sense gun legislation
-addressing climate change
-women’s reproductive rights
-protecting voting rights

I’m a pro choice union teacher who believes in climate change and supports LGBTQIA+ rights - BUT - I vote Republican most of the time because Democrats are obsessed with banning guns.

Get rid of this obsession with banning guns and I’d vote straight ticket Dem.

There is no credence to a gun ban in this country. Assault weapons, yes. As there should be.

And that persistent desire for an ineffective assault weapons ban is going to lose you a lot of elections

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Anonymous wrote:Rights of gun owners supersede that of children (who can’t even vote). Nobody seems to have a problem with that, which is a much bigger problem than trans taking away your child’s deserved first place medal (which probably didn’t even happen to you).

💯

It is shocking to me how many parents are so flip about this. Terrified of trans and certain books in schools. But guns? 🤷‍♀️

Yeah well when parents can see tiktoks of teachers saying wild things like they're transitioning children in the classrooms without informing parents, and then CA leans hard into it, people are going to nope themselves away from voting D.

You take it up with the teacher, the principal, the school board, etc. You know what most rationale people would do.

You do not burn the entire country down. Beyond comprehension.

Look, the fact that this is an electoral issue at all suggests that voters feel they are not being heard at the local level. If voters felt that school boards, teachers, principals, etc were actually listening, this would not have been the resonant issue it was in November 2024.

This thread is full of Democratic partisans who seem to still believe, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that they can stomp their feet and demand voters only care about the issues that these partisans deem acceptable for voters to care about. That is frankly delusional. You need to embrace reality if you want to ever win at the national level again. Meet the voters where they are.

We could have this conversation if Trump won by an overwhelming majority, he didn’t.

It does not matter whether he won by three votes or 30 million votes. The point is that trans rights and gender ideology is and was an electoral issue, whether you like it or not. The closeness alone makes it an electoral issue.

Please face reality. As someone who thinks it is important for the future of this country to get MAGA out of power, I am begging you and all other Democratic partisans to face reality on this issue.

I am not a Democratic strategist. So no need to beg me to do anything differently.

But:


Democratic policies are aligned with where most voters are in this country:

-healthcare
-common sense gun legislation
-addressing climate change
-women’s reproductive rights
-protecting voting rights

I’m a pro choice union teacher who believes in climate change and supports LGBTQIA+ rights - BUT - I vote Republican most of the time because Democrats are obsessed with banning guns.

Get rid of this obsession with banning guns and I’d vote straight ticket Dem.

I appreciate the sentiment but your positions are unusual enough that optimizing for your particular political alignment will not get the Democrats very far.

Looking at the top electoral issues in the past election, gun control was not much of an issue for either side. There aren’t recent polls that have shown that has changed.

The Democrats need to campaign on and stand for issues that are swing voter vote-getters. Gun control (either for or against) isn’t one of those now.

What are the R’s going to do that will help anyone? What policies do they have that will help everyday citizens?

Losing take. The Democrats lost, including all swing states. Electorally, the election wasn’t close at all. And they lost key voters in nearly all demographics.

So, the question for the next national election cycle for Democrats should not be what Rs are going to do. The voters already decided they want whatever it is that they think Rs were offering. The question is what Democrats can offer and what positions they can take to persuade voters to move from either not voting, voting third party, or voting for Rs.

The Democratic position can’t be “well, you voters are wrong and let me tell you why.”

Not saying they should do that. Not a strategist! Not running for office!

But no one can seem to answer the question.

R's are deporting illegal aliens, they're making a pretty big show of it.
They are cutting government in meaningless but very visible ways.
They are outlawing DEI and defunding the pillars of ultra left wing orthodoxy like harvard.
Trump just attacked Iran's nuclear infrastructure and there were zero repercussions so far.
Rs are playing fast and loose with the rules but that is what they are doing and ALL of it polls well (even the iran stuff now that it looks like we are not going to be putting boots on the ground).


Meanwhile democrats want to
Ban guns.
Let boys compete with girls.
DEI
More DEI
And even More DEI

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Anonymous wrote:Rights of gun owners supersede that of children (who can’t even vote). Nobody seems to have a problem with that, which is a much bigger problem than trans taking away your child’s deserved first place medal (which probably didn’t even happen to you).

💯

It is shocking to me how many parents are so flip about this. Terrified of trans and certain books in schools. But guns? 🤷‍♀️

Yeah well when parents can see tiktoks of teachers saying wild things like they're transitioning children in the classrooms without informing parents, and then CA leans hard into it, people are going to nope themselves away from voting D.

You take it up with the teacher, the principal, the school board, etc. You know what most rationale people would do.

You do not burn the entire country down. Beyond comprehension.

Look, the fact that this is an electoral issue at all suggests that voters feel they are not being heard at the local level. If voters felt that school boards, teachers, principals, etc were actually listening, this would not have been the resonant issue it was in November 2024.

This thread is full of Democratic partisans who seem to still believe, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that they can stomp their feet and demand voters only care about the issues that these partisans deem acceptable for voters to care about. That is frankly delusional. You need to embrace reality if you want to ever win at the national level again. Meet the voters where they are.

We could have this conversation if Trump won by an overwhelming majority, he didn’t.

It does not matter whether he won by three votes or 30 million votes. The point is that trans rights and gender ideology is and was an electoral issue, whether you like it or not. The closeness alone makes it an electoral issue.

Please face reality. As someone who thinks it is important for the future of this country to get MAGA out of power, I am begging you and all other Democratic partisans to face reality on this issue.

I am not a Democratic strategist. So no need to beg me to do anything differently.

But:


Democratic policies are aligned with where most voters are in this country:

-healthcare
-common sense gun legislation
-addressing climate change
-women’s reproductive rights
-protecting voting rights

I’m a pro choice union teacher who believes in climate change and supports LGBTQIA+ rights - BUT - I vote Republican most of the time because Democrats are obsessed with banning guns.

Get rid of this obsession with banning guns and I’d vote straight ticket Dem.

I appreciate the sentiment but your positions are unusual enough that optimizing for your particular political alignment will not get the Democrats very far.

Looking at the top electoral issues in the past election, gun control was not much of an issue for either side. There aren’t recent polls that have shown that has changed.

The Democrats need to campaign on and stand for issues that are swing voter vote-getters. Gun control (either for or against) isn’t one of those now.

What are the R’s going to do that will help anyone? What policies do they have that will help everyday citizens?

Losing take. The Democrats lost, including all swing states. Electorally, the election wasn’t close at all. And they lost key voters in nearly all demographics.

So, the question for the next national election cycle for Democrats should not be what Rs are going to do. The voters already decided they want whatever it is that they think Rs were offering. The question is what Democrats can offer and what positions they can take to persuade voters to move from either not voting, voting third party, or voting for Rs.

The Democratic position can’t be “well, you voters are wrong and let me tell you why.”

Yes and no. In 1968 Democrats could have co-opted the Republican southern strategy and taken civil rights away from blacks, since it largely cost them the solid south. Would you have supported that? Sometimes things are larger than winning elections - sometimes you have to stand for what's right, even if it's not popular. Otherwise you become your enemy.

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Anonymous wrote:Rights of gun owners supersede that of children (who can’t even vote). Nobody seems to have a problem with that, which is a much bigger problem than trans taking away your child’s deserved first place medal (which probably didn’t even happen to you).

💯

It is shocking to me how many parents are so flip about this. Terrified of trans and certain books in schools. But guns? 🤷‍♀️

Yeah well when parents can see tiktoks of teachers saying wild things like they're transitioning children in the classrooms without informing parents, and then CA leans hard into it, people are going to nope themselves away from voting D.

You take it up with the teacher, the principal, the school board, etc. You know what most rationale people would do.

You do not burn the entire country down. Beyond comprehension.

Look, the fact that this is an electoral issue at all suggests that voters feel they are not being heard at the local level. If voters felt that school boards, teachers, principals, etc were actually listening, this would not have been the resonant issue it was in November 2024.

This thread is full of Democratic partisans who seem to still believe, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that they can stomp their feet and demand voters only care about the issues that these partisans deem acceptable for voters to care about. That is frankly delusional. You need to embrace reality if you want to ever win at the national level again. Meet the voters where they are.

We could have this conversation if Trump won by an overwhelming majority, he didn’t.

It does not matter whether he won by three votes or 30 million votes. The point is that trans rights and gender ideology is and was an electoral issue, whether you like it or not. The closeness alone makes it an electoral issue.

Please face reality. As someone who thinks it is important for the future of this country to get MAGA out of power, I am begging you and all other Democratic partisans to face reality on this issue.

I am not a Democratic strategist. So no need to beg me to do anything differently.

But:


Democratic policies are aligned with where most voters are in this country:

-healthcare
-common sense gun legislation
-addressing climate change
-women’s reproductive rights
-protecting voting rights

I’m a pro choice union teacher who believes in climate change and supports LGBTQIA+ rights - BUT - I vote Republican most of the time because Democrats are obsessed with banning guns.

Get rid of this obsession with banning guns and I’d vote straight ticket Dem.

I appreciate the sentiment but your positions are unusual enough that optimizing for your particular political alignment will not get the Democrats very far.

Looking at the top electoral issues in the past election, gun control was not much of an issue for either side. There aren’t recent polls that have shown that has changed.

The Democrats need to campaign on and stand for issues that are swing voter vote-getters. Gun control (either for or against) isn’t one of those now.

What are the R’s going to do that will help anyone? What policies do they have that will help everyday citizens?

Losing take. The Democrats lost, including all swing states. Electorally, the election wasn’t close at all. And they lost key voters in nearly all demographics.

So, the question for the next national election cycle for Democrats should not be what Rs are going to do. The voters already decided they want whatever it is that they think Rs were offering. The question is what Democrats can offer and what positions they can take to persuade voters to move from either not voting, voting third party, or voting for Rs.

The Democratic position can’t be “well, you voters are wrong and let me tell you why.”

Not saying they should do that. Not a strategist! Not running for office!

But no one can seem to answer the question.

Anonymous wrote:Are the Ds out to sea? I LOATHE trump. But where are we in 2024?

The Border?
Tariffs?
Taxes and Spending?
Social Justice?
DEI?
Russia / Ukraine?
Energy?
EV policy?

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Anonymous wrote:Rights of gun owners supersede that of children (who can’t even vote). Nobody seems to have a problem with that, which is a much bigger problem than trans taking away your child’s deserved first place medal (which probably didn’t even happen to you).

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It is shocking to me how many parents are so flip about this. Terrified of trans and certain books in schools. But guns? 🤷‍♀️

Yeah well when parents can see tiktoks of teachers saying wild things like they're transitioning children in the classrooms without informing parents, and then CA leans hard into it, people are going to nope themselves away from voting D.

You take it up with the teacher, the principal, the school board, etc. You know what most rationale people would do.

You do not burn the entire country down. Beyond comprehension.

Look, the fact that this is an electoral issue at all suggests that voters feel they are not being heard at the local level. If voters felt that school boards, teachers, principals, etc were actually listening, this would not have been the resonant issue it was in November 2024.

This thread is full of Democratic partisans who seem to still believe, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that they can stomp their feet and demand voters only care about the issues that these partisans deem acceptable for voters to care about. That is frankly delusional. You need to embrace reality if you want to ever win at the national level again. Meet the voters where they are.

We could have this conversation if Trump won by an overwhelming majority, he didn’t.

It does not matter whether he won by three votes or 30 million votes. The point is that trans rights and gender ideology is and was an electoral issue, whether you like it or not. The closeness alone makes it an electoral issue.

Please face reality. As someone who thinks it is important for the future of this country to get MAGA out of power, I am begging you and all other Democratic partisans to face reality on this issue.

I am not a Democratic strategist. So no need to beg me to do anything differently.

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Democratic policies are aligned with where most voters are in this country:

-healthcare
-common sense gun legislation
-addressing climate change
-women’s reproductive rights
-protecting voting rights

I’m a pro choice union teacher who believes in climate change and supports LGBTQIA+ rights - BUT - I vote Republican most of the time because Democrats are obsessed with banning guns.

Get rid of this obsession with banning guns and I’d vote straight ticket Dem.

There is no credence to a gun ban in this country. Assault weapons, yes. As there should be.