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Anonymous wrote:is there any chance this guy really has ties to MS-13? If he does we are f'd. I really hope this claim was fully investigated before democrats started doubling down on the situation.

He did not contest it in 2019 over two hearings. Instead he filed a claim in a different hearing that a different gang would hurt him and that he fled because they were threatening him and wanted money from his mom's pupusa business.

At the time an informant gave his gang name and rank, and he was wearing clothes associated with the gang. Not just Bulls but a no snitching hoodie.

And then the arresting officer was found to have been trading sex for information, making the informant’s information suspect, at best.

And the informant said he was active in New York where he has never lived.

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Anonymous wrote:is there any chance this guy really has ties to MS-13? If he does we are f'd. I really hope this claim was fully investigated before democrats started doubling down on the situation.

He did not contest it in 2019 over two hearings. Instead he filed a claim in a different hearing that a different gang would hurt him and that he fled because they were threatening him and wanted money from his mom's pupusa business.

At the time an informant gave his gang name and rank, and he was wearing clothes associated with the gang. Not just Bulls but a no snitching hoodie.

And then the arresting officer was found to have been trading sex for information, making the informant’s information suspect, at best.

And the informant said he was active in New York where he has never lived.

But you know what, pp knows this. It's been stated over and over. We have also explained the low bar in bond hearings, the fact that immigration judges essentially work for the administration, the fact that a federal judge, with a higher bar, says there is no actual evidence. The administration (minus Trump who is more indifferent and clueless by the day) knows this. They are opting to continue lying

Pp would like to villanize the man to make it seem OK for trump to break the law.

The man is innocent AND he has a right to due process.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.

“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/

"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."

It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.

It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.

We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.

Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.

This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.

There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.

So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?

Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.

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The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

Where was this concern over people losing their jobs, businesses being shut down, and freedom to travel was restricted?

Oh please no one was restricted from traveling, at least domestically on a federal level. However Trump made it difficult for travelers from overseas to enter the country. But we never had mandatory quarantine like Australia or Singapore.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people saying Kilmar Garcia was a human trafficker?

What's that about? was he arrested for that?

They are throwing everything out there to see what sticks. If only we could see a trial with evidence.

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The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

Where was this concern over people losing their jobs, businesses being shut down, and freedom to travel was restricted?

Oh please no one was restricted from traveling, at least domestically on a federal level. However Trump made it difficult for travelers from overseas to enter the country. But we never had mandatory quarantine like Australia or Singapore.

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The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

Where was this concern over people losing their jobs, businesses being shut down, and freedom to travel was restricted?

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The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

Where was this concern over people losing their jobs, businesses being shut down, and freedom to travel was restricted?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people saying Kilmar Garcia was a human trafficker?

What's that about? was he arrested for that?

They are throwing everything out there to see what sticks. If only we could see a trial with evidence.

The man had 2 hearings. Both found he was MS-13, but you refuse to believe that for some reason.

This status as MS-13 isn't the issue. As perfect a candidate as he may be for deportation and long-term storage at CECOT, if the government does so without following the proper process, the government loses. Anything else just leads to a Machiavellian state where the government can do as it pleases as long as the goal is laudable (by some). How will you like it when Obama II decides that tax hikes are necessary and Congress just an impediment so it simply the Fed to take money from you bank account?

What was the proper process?

Anonymous wrote:Why are people saying Kilmar Garcia was a human trafficker?

What's that about? was he arrested for that?

Anonymous wrote:And here is the Editorial Board of the Wall Street Journal (I know - Infamous radical leftist rag) telling Trump to back off.

Gift Link: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/j-harvie-wilkinson-opinion-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-deportation-4e72f464?st=S2XgS4&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

His lawyers would profit in particular from reading the last part of Judge Wilkinson’s opinion, which the press has ignored. It’s advice to judges and the President to avoid a clash.

“Now the branches come too close to grinding irrevocably against one another in a conflict that promises to diminish both,” he wrote. “The Judiciary will lose much from the constant intimations of its illegitimacy, to which by dent of custom and detachment we can only sparingly reply. The Executive will lose much from a public perception of its lawlessness and all of its attendant contagions.”

There is much wisdom in those words. Our constitutional system depends on checks and balances, but also on some flexibility in the joints of that balancing. Mr. Trump may be able to get away with defying the courts on Mr. Abrego Garcia, but it isn’t worth the political cost for him or the country. He has far bigger issues on which he will need the Supreme Court in the next four years.

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The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:With all the plain clothes agents with faces covered swiping people off the street...how easy would it be to to kidnap someone right now ..men can snatch women off the street and say they are ICE and boom. Got themselves a slave never to be seen again.

This is definitely happening

https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-04-10/cases-of-civilians-posing-as-ice-agents-to-detain-migrants-are-on-the-rise.html

The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

They aren't pausing anything. They wll be rightly ignored.

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Anonymous wrote:With all the plain clothes agents with faces covered swiping people off the street...how easy would it be to to kidnap someone right now ..men can snatch women off the street and say they are ICE and boom. Got themselves a slave never to be seen again.

This is definitely happening

https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-04-10/cases-of-civilians-posing-as-ice-agents-to-detain-migrants-are-on-the-rise.html

The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

They aren't pausing anything. They wll be rightly ignored.