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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

stop if with the chamber of commerce propaganda. Americans will do any job.

Chicken farms

Less than one week after ICE raided 7 food processing facilities in Mississippi apprehending nearly 700 illegal workers, American citizens are rushing to freshly-available jobs.

Koch Foods is headquartered in Chicago but maintains a chicken processing facility in Mississippi that employed 243 of the 680 undocumented Latino workers arrested in the raids last Thursday. Koch has since collaborated with the Mississippi Department of Employment Security (MDES), holding a job fair to recruit new, legal, workers, according to the Associated Press.

The fair raked in 200 applications before noon, according to local media. The company says it will require applicants to present two forms of identification before being hired, according to CNN. MDES will also vet all Mississippi workers for legality using the state’s E-Verify system, according to USA Today.

I would not do that work for peanuts with no benefits, like most US workers. maybe they should increase the wages and add health care? crazy idea to people like you.

Econ 101 will give you background on the impact of Supply and Demand on prices.

if Supply goes up, the cost will come down.
if Supply goes down, the cost goes up.

if we were to limit the overwhelming immigration of low wage workers, the wages for low wage workers would increase.

I think that is a good thing.

people like you think that is a bad thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/13/citizens-line-up-mississippi-jobs-fear-ice-raids-impact-immigrants/

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

+ a million
The irony is so thick.

and they are still confused why the rest of the country doesn't want millions of low wage workers desperate for jobs.

It’s also insulting to the illegal immigrants that the Dems want them to work for dirt cheap, illegal under the table cash to do the “demeaning” “hard labor” jobs they claim “Americans won’t do”. So the Dems want Illegals as a modern day SLAVE force to live in the shadows of society so they can keep good cheap goods?

This actually sounds very racist and elitist of the Dems now doesn’t it? Wait, I thought Dems were the morally superior party”? *snark*

In 2008, Senators Obama and Clinton ran on closing the border and creating a fence or a wall. President Bush was largely seen as the amnesty president unconcerned about securing the border and supportive of illegals immigration

Illegal immigration used to be something the left rallied against because it hurt American national security and American workers / jobs

Correct.

During my immigration law class in law school, we learned many groups on the left traditionally opposed illegal immigration and, not surprisingly, supported senators Clinton and Obama.

Those groups included:

- labor unions
- the NAACP
- the Sierra Club

The first two groups viewed illegals as taking the jobs their constituents deserved. The Sierra Club viewed population growth as damaging the environment of the USA.

Someone on the left later “flipped the script,” and decided democrats should now support unfettered illegal immigration, that “no human being is illegal,” and the preposterous idea:

- international borders are racist


Who is doing this? Where are these ideas coming from ??

Leftist academia and leftist media.

Everyone knows this.

why voters abandoned Democrats

OPT

The troubling fact is that the OPT program was created entirely through regulation with no authorization from Congress whatsoever. It has been going on for so long, that many people assume that Congress authorized OPT when in fact, Congress has explicitly changed the law to prohibit it. Here is a history of how OPT came about. In reading this history, keep in mind that the regulations described here employ the euphemism "practical training" to refer to work.

In 2007, Microsoft concocted a scheme to use OPT as a means to circumvent the H-1XXB quotas. Microsoft's plan was to extend the duration of OPT from a year to 29-months, so that the duration would be sufficient to serve as a guestworker program, rather than just an internship-type program. Microsoft proposed this scheme to the Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff at a dinner party at the home of the owner of the Washington Nationals baseball team. (See pp. 229-230 in book Sold Out, co-authored with Michelle Malkin.) From there, DHS worked in absolute secrecy with industry lobbyists to craft regulations implementing Microsoft's plan.

In a classic example of Washington cronyism, the first notice that DHS was even considering such regulations came when they were promulgated as a fait accompli, without notice and comment, on April 8, 2008 (73 Fed. Reg. 18,944). These regulations made three major expansions to OPT. First, they allowed aliens to remain in student visa status while they were unemployed so they could look for work. Second, they allowed aliens working under OPT to remain in student visa status from the time an H-1XXB petition was filed on their behalf until a final decision was made on the petition or the start date. This adds a maximum of 6 months to the OPT duration. Finally, they authorized a 17-month work period for aliens with degrees in fields DHS designates at Science/Technology/Engineering/Mathematics (STEM). This gave a maximum OPT duration of 35 months.

The OPT program has been the subject of continuous litigation since then where, after nearly a decade, the federal courts have been unable to come to a decision on whether it is lawful. However in 2015, the D.C. District Court held that the 2008 OPT regulations had been promulgated unlawfully without notice and comment. In response to this opinion, DHS promulgated new regulations that did the same as the old regulations except that they expanded the STEM work period from 17 months to 24 months, giving a maximum OPT work period of 42 months (24+12+6).

OPT is an example of the administrative state run amok. Instead of law coming from Congress, we have law coming from bureaucrats working hand-in-hand with lobbyists. OPT also illustrates the slippery-slope problem of regulation. Work on student visas started innocently as an integral part of a course of study to give foreign students an experience not available in their home country, but eventually was transformed into a full-blown guestworker program whose stated purpose is to provide labor to American business.

https://cis.org/Report/History-Optional-Practical-Training-Guestworker-Program

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

when did it become a morally ok decision to hire slaves?

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

+ a million
The irony is so thick.

and they are still confused why the rest of the country doesn't want millions of low wage workers desperate for jobs.

It’s also insulting to the illegal immigrants that the Dems want them to work for dirt cheap, illegal under the table cash to do the “demeaning” “hard labor” jobs they claim “Americans won’t do”. So the Dems want Illegals as a modern day SLAVE force to live in the shadows of society so they can keep good cheap goods?

This actually sounds very racist and elitist of the Dems now doesn’t it? Wait, I thought Dems were the morally superior party”? *snark*

In 2008, Senators Obama and Clinton ran on closing the border and creating a fence or a wall. President Bush was largely seen as the amnesty president unconcerned about securing the border and supportive of illegals immigration

Illegal immigration used to be something the left rallied against because it hurt American national security and American workers / jobs

Correct.

During my immigration law class in law school, we learned many groups on the left traditionally opposed illegal immigration and, not surprisingly, supported senators Clinton and Obama.

Those groups included:

- labor unions
- the NAACP
- the Sierra Club

The first two groups viewed illegals as taking the jobs their constituents deserved. The Sierra Club viewed population growth as damaging the environment of the USA.

Someone on the left later “flipped the script,” and decided democrats should now support unfettered illegal immigration, that “no human being is illegal,” and the preposterous idea:

- international borders are racist


Who is doing this? Where are these ideas coming from ??

Leftist academia and leftist media.

Everyone knows this.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

American workers don't want those jobs. Even for $26 an hour. And those jobs supply us with the majority of our vegetables, fruits, nuts along with being the labor for a lot of our meat industry. You can pontificate while you starve.

I'm as liberal as they come but there's a point where the virtue signaling goes beyond basic human survival needs.

Honestly, I think most Americans will be fine with mass deportations at this point. Dems need to get it together or they will lose every election for the next 30 years. Most Americans dislike Trump, but they also dislike it when democrats pretend illegal immigration is not a problem. https://abcnews4.com/amp/news/nation-world/dc-maryland-virginia-venezuelan-gang-violent-violence-crime-tda-tren-de-aragua-robbery-theft-venezuelan-gang-fairfax-county-president-nicolas-madura-migrants-immigrants-south-america-donald-trump-immigration-laws

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

I like those fancy nanny visas that State Dept offers families to sponsor nannies. That should be expanded to all of Club Fed workers.

You mean the slave labor au pair scam? Let’s not mention how many of them get threatened, then impregnated by the male of the house. The naive young women either get an abortion, or get sent home.

These predator men have guaranteed protection, as their victims don’t even have a place to live after their so-called host families move on to a new foreigner.

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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

Democrats say they don't want illegal aliens, but they won't deport them and won't stop them at the border. Democrats' actions say loud and clear that Dems want illegal aliens. Same goes for elected Republicans, who are too dumb to elect people to represent their interests.

No moron. Democrats do not want to deport those here on asylum. MAGA conflate illegal aliens and asylum seekers, see Springfield, OH.

The odds of that most of these people do not have valid asylum claims. Haiti has one of the highest denial rates for asylum applications. The situation in Haiti is very unfortunate, but economic conditions do not make someone eligible for asylum.

We have a legal process to follow to rule they don’t. Asylum =|= illegal until it’s ruled as such. Democrats believe in the rule of law.

Crossing the border in between the ports of entry is against the law.

Democrats do not believe in the rule of law. They believe in chaos and lawlessness. We see that in their support of illegal immigration and of violent criminals.

This.

Full stop.

This isn’t complicated

1) close the border, apply legally
2) stop citizenship by birth. legal parent can apply at year 7 for child.
3) deport all illegal alien criminals and fraudsters.
4) no free public school for children of undocumented illegal aliens. Go home and apply or keep your children there.
5) e-verity required. Escalating fines and then shut down.

Exactly. Outrageous how Democrats fight AGAINST e-verify at every opportunity. WHY?

Some Democratic politicians may fight against e-verify for unknown reasons but don't lump all "Democrats" in with such madness.

Then name any Democrat politicians fighting FOR e-verify.

Zero.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

Another Great add PP: link your personal or household IRS reported income with your personal or household remittances.

AI fraud software will do the rest.

Pay your remittance tax then.

Good feature.

Will present this to IRS soon.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Why on earth would you assume that remittances are only made by illegal immigrants? Do you think that the millions of legal migrants never send money overseas? I'm a legal migrant but you think that when I send money overseas to pay off my mortgage in my home country or to help my mother with medical bills, I should effectively be taxed twice? You know most remittances go to India? Are you trying to target illegal immigrants from India?

Illegal immigrants and their offspring from anywhere need to leave or be shown the door.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Those are slave labor programs. Government sanctioned, so it's fine.

I like those fancy nanny visas that State Dept offers families to sponsor nannies. That should be expanded to all of Club Fed workers.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

They come because Republicans keep hiring them.

Great. Then you agree:
- enforce the borders, turn away illegals
- stop citizenship by birth
- deport illegal alien criminals and fraudsters, and their children/ families
- tax remittances
- bolster worker visa programs
- require e-verify
- fine employers, deport illegals trying to work
- clear phony asylum book, deport all asylum country shoppers (if you traipsed through 1+ other country, you are a fraud)

All of this sounds fine but why tax remittances? Are you assuming any money remitted was earned by illegal immigrants and therefore never taxed?

You tax remittances to decrease the benefit of being in the US. Trump can do it on Day 1 and should. There should be no rewards for illegally entering the US.

Also, we don't need worker visa programs--those get abused.

Not even seasonal agricultural worker visa programs?

Why on earth would you assume that remittances are only made by illegal immigrants? Do you think that the millions of legal migrants never send money overseas? I'm a legal migrant but you think that when I send money overseas to pay off my mortgage in my home country or to help my mother with medical bills, I should effectively be taxed twice? You know most remittances go to India? Are you trying to target illegal immigrants from India?

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Anonymous wrote:Dems brought them in and now they're complaining it's too expensive to deport them...

+ a million
The irony is so thick.

and they are still confused why the rest of the country doesn't want millions of low wage workers desperate for jobs.

It’s also insulting to the illegal immigrants that the Dems want them to work for dirt cheap, illegal under the table cash to do the “demeaning” “hard labor” jobs they claim “Americans won’t do”. So the Dems want Illegals as a modern day SLAVE force to live in the shadows of society so they can keep good cheap goods?

This actually sounds very racist and elitist of the Dems now doesn’t it? Wait, I thought Dems were the morally superior party”? *snark*

In 2008, Senators Obama and Clinton ran on closing the border and creating a fence or a wall. President Bush was largely seen as the amnesty president unconcerned about securing the border and supportive of illegals immigration

Illegal immigration used to be something the left rallied against because it hurt American national security and American workers / jobs

Correct.

During my immigration law class in law school, we learned many groups on the left traditionally opposed illegal immigration and, not surprisingly, supported senators Clinton and Obama.

Those groups included:

- labor unions
- the NAACP
- the Sierra Club

The first two groups viewed illegals as taking the jobs their constituents deserved. The Sierra Club viewed population growth as damaging the environment of the USA.

Someone on the left later “flipped the script,” and decided democrats should now support unfettered illegal immigration, that “no human being is illegal,” and the preposterous idea:

- international borders are racist


Who is doing this? Where are these ideas coming from ??

I agree wth the premise of OP. If something is going to be expensive, we shouldn't do it. That means defund Israel, Ukraine, Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, NASA, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sick of hearing about the criminals coming across the border when our own criminal class of GOP politicians commit mayhem, murder, rape, and this is just the one coming back to the WH where he is going to declare a NATIONAL EMERGENCY on day one and use the ARMED FORCES TO FACILITATE HIS MASS DEPORTATION.

Wait what? This is unintentionally hilarious! GOP politicians are murders and rapists?lol Hoping Trump ramps it up fast and starts deporting on day one without due process. Fly them out and dump them in Mexico the same way Biden flew them all over the country destroying communities overnight in the dead of night.

BTW…Here’s your actual Murderers you loon. There are currently at least 13,000 illegal immigrants living in the US outside of detention who are MURDERERS. Sourced from your Bible, NBC:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna173125

Approximately 663,000 more who are rapists, thieves, Sexual assault, robbery, gang crimes, deadly car accidents and other crimes that ICE absolutely KNOWS of are of roaming around the country. That number is from ICE.

RIP Laken, Jocelyn, Dania, Rachel and all of the other victims of illegal criminals who never should have been here to begin with.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/stolen-lives-victims-illegal-alien-crime

GET THEM OUT!!!

Start with throwing out RAPIST TRUMP FIRST.Z

It’s going to be a long 4 years for people like you.

For anyone who thinks a convicted felon is not qualified for POTUS. Although, even without the conviction he’s not qualified. He completely choked on responding to the pandemic and incited an insurrection

You lost, a felon on trumped on fake book keeping charges? I’ll take it. Worth. It. Trump is President elect. He’s not my favorite personality but the policies are right and he’ll get the job done. Keep stewing! 😂💙