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Anonymous wrote:I think that given the fact that Trump is also almost as old as Biden, that he shows serious cognitive decline, his inability to stay on point, his frequent incoherent rambling, his degeneration from being an articulate speaker to using a 5th-grade vocabulary, his frequent slurred and confused words, his delusional rants about weird made-up things like boat-battery-shark scenarios and having to flush the toilet 15 times - it's clear to me that Trump is objectively every bit as bad, if not worse than Biden.

But the fact that the posters here who carry on and on about "as a Democrat I..." and being shocked and dismayed about Biden either a.) quickly dismiss Trump's issues or b.) don't engage at all regarding Trump's age, health, and serious decline leads me to believe that a sizeable percentage of the "as a Democrat..." commentary here is anything of the sort, and instead it's concern trolling.

If you're concerned then you should ALSO be concerned about Trump. I'm not seeing it. You're all dishonest for not discussing it.

Because Trump’s mental health is better than Biden’s.

Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty much legally impossible for the Democrats to put anyone else on the state ballots at this point. Any attempt to swap candidates will be met with a raft of lawsuits in the state courts.

Even if Joe Biden resigns and Harris becomes POTUS 47 and she takes over the campaign apparatus and funds (legally allowed since she is named on FEC documents), she will likely face lawsuits in state courts because the names "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" are on the ballot. States may need to change laws to add a new VP candidate to the Democratic ticket. All of it will be challenged in court and then we will have the very undemocratic process of the Supreme Court saying who gets to run for POTUS/VP.

In short, this is concerning because states do not appear to have a seamless mechanism for replacing a candidate on the ballot if someone dies after they have won the state nominating race. It is effectively an unconstitutional extra requirement to someone running for POTUS or VP. It's a much bigger problem than Joe Biden.

Your assertion makes no sense. Biden is not an indentured servant and can drop out. Are you saying if he were to be hit by a bus, the Democratic Party would have no nominee?

And if this were true, no Democrat would be suggesting that Biden withdraw his candidacy.

There is no nationalized standard to replace a POTUS candidate on a state ballot. It would be a 50 state process that would come down to interpretations of election laws, lawsuits, judges, and eventually the Supreme Court.

For example, I just took a look at Florida's election laws. There are no provisions that outline what happens when a nominated candidate either dies prior to the November election or backs out of the race AFTER winning the state primary. Conceivably, "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" would still be printed on Florida's ballots. Absent the Florida legislature amending its election laws and the Governor signing said law, the DNC would need to try to run a write-in campaign for a new POTUS nominee. And then you're going to get tons of issues with that - is the writing legible? How is write-in done with voting machines? Etc.

So yes, I am saying the Democratic Party would effectively have no nominee in most states.

We're stuck with Biden. Accept it and move on.

If we are stuck with Biden, then the easy choise is Trump. Thank you!

The election should be postponed until December to give the states time to put the new candidate on the ballot.

If that is what it will take to save democracy and to stop Project 2025, then so be it.

But President Biden is committed to winning. Let’s not go to extremes when it isn’t necessary to do so. Uncle Joe can easily beat Drumpf again.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty much legally impossible for the Democrats to put anyone else on the state ballots at this point. Any attempt to swap candidates will be met with a raft of lawsuits in the state courts.

Even if Joe Biden resigns and Harris becomes POTUS 47 and she takes over the campaign apparatus and funds (legally allowed since she is named on FEC documents), she will likely face lawsuits in state courts because the names "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" are on the ballot. States may need to change laws to add a new VP candidate to the Democratic ticket. All of it will be challenged in court and then we will have the very undemocratic process of the Supreme Court saying who gets to run for POTUS/VP.

In short, this is concerning because states do not appear to have a seamless mechanism for replacing a candidate on the ballot if someone dies after they have won the state nominating race. It is effectively an unconstitutional extra requirement to someone running for POTUS or VP. It's a much bigger problem than Joe Biden.

Your assertion makes no sense. Biden is not an indentured servant and can drop out. Are you saying if he were to be hit by a bus, the Democratic Party would have no nominee?

And if this were true, no Democrat would be suggesting that Biden withdraw his candidacy.

There is no nationalized standard to replace a POTUS candidate on a state ballot. It would be a 50 state process that would come down to interpretations of election laws, lawsuits, judges, and eventually the Supreme Court.

For example, I just took a look at Florida's election laws. There are no provisions that outline what happens when a nominated candidate either dies prior to the November election or backs out of the race AFTER winning the state primary. Conceivably, "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" would still be printed on Florida's ballots. Absent the Florida legislature amending its election laws and the Governor signing said law, the DNC would need to try to run a write-in campaign for a new POTUS nominee. And then you're going to get tons of issues with that - is the writing legible? How is write-in done with voting machines? Etc.

So yes, I am saying the Democratic Party would effectively have no nominee in most states.

We're stuck with Biden. Accept it and move on.

If we are stuck with Biden, then the easy choise is Trump. Thank you!

The election should be postponed until December to give the states time to put the new candidate on the ballot.

If that is what it will take to save democracy and to stop Project 2025, then so be it.

But President Biden is committed to winning. Let’s not go to extremes when it isn’t necessary to do so. Uncle Joe can easily beat Drumpf again.

Anonymous wrote:I think that given the fact that Trump is also almost as old as Biden, that he shows serious cognitive decline, his inability to stay on point, his frequent incoherent rambling, his degeneration from being an articulate speaker to using a 5th-grade vocabulary, his frequent slurred and confused words, his delusional rants about weird made-up things like boat-battery-shark scenarios and having to flush the toilet 15 times - it's clear to me that Trump is objectively every bit as bad, if not worse than Biden.

But the fact that the posters here who carry on and on about "as a Democrat I..." and being shocked and dismayed about Biden either a.) quickly dismiss Trump's issues or b.) don't engage at all regarding Trump's age, health, and serious decline leads me to believe that a sizeable percentage of the "as a Democrat..." commentary here is anything of the sort, and instead it's concern trolling.

If you're concerned then you should ALSO be concerned about Trump. I'm not seeing it. You're all dishonest for not discussing it.

Anonymous wrote:I do not understand the strategy of the Democrats. It is not about WHO can beat Biden. Rather it should be about how to beat Trump. The Democrats are waisting a lot of time, money and energy labeling Trump's policies as a threat to democracy and other policies related to immigration, lgbtq, women's issues etc. I am sick and tired about hearing about MAGA from them. The Democrats should understand why are Independent voters in the likes of Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia etc somehow find Trump's policies appealing. Trust me those voters do not personally like Trump they most likely hate him.

What I find even more puzzling is why aren't Democrats using the power of the executive branch to counter some of Trump's policies. Why are they staying in the middle about illegal immigration? Why not move to the rights? You think African American voters will lose sleep in Biden suddenly uses the same approach that Obama yes Obama used with raid at places known for hiring illegal immigrant? Hispanics voters will vote for them anyways. So they are scared for nothing. They shouldn't fall for the activists empty threats that Hispanics will stay home if Biden toughens up on immigration. Trump softened his stance on abortion? Do you think the Christian right will stay home? And do you honestly think that Trump voters believe him when he says that he will organize massive deportation operations? Come on. Even during his first term his first executive orders on immigration were about the image than anything else. Trump knows how to lie and trick his voters, why aren't Democrats doing the same. They are liers anyways themselves. You want a reminder? Go ask the Billionaires who donate to the DNC if they have been hurt by Biden's tax policy. And Mr Biden why da f***k are you telling voters you are going to raise taxes if the current tax break expire. Seriously? We know you won't do it anyways.

So it's not about replacing Biden. Democrats should roll up their sleeves, stop with the empty words of MAGA etc and offer counter policies. And use the executive branch right now to do so. Voters are interesting. They will ever the policy you passed 2 weeks ago not the disastrous ones you pass 2 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty much legally impossible for the Democrats to put anyone else on the state ballots at this point. Any attempt to swap candidates will be met with a raft of lawsuits in the state courts.

Even if Joe Biden resigns and Harris becomes POTUS 47 and she takes over the campaign apparatus and funds (legally allowed since she is named on FEC documents), she will likely face lawsuits in state courts because the names "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" are on the ballot. States may need to change laws to add a new VP candidate to the Democratic ticket. All of it will be challenged in court and then we will have the very undemocratic process of the Supreme Court saying who gets to run for POTUS/VP.

In short, this is concerning because states do not appear to have a seamless mechanism for replacing a candidate on the ballot if someone dies after they have won the state nominating race. It is effectively an unconstitutional extra requirement to someone running for POTUS or VP. It's a much bigger problem than Joe Biden.

Your assertion makes no sense. Biden is not an indentured servant and can drop out. Are you saying if he were to be hit by a bus, the Democratic Party would have no nominee?

And if this were true, no Democrat would be suggesting that Biden withdraw his candidacy.

There is no nationalized standard to replace a POTUS candidate on a state ballot. It would be a 50 state process that would come down to interpretations of election laws, lawsuits, judges, and eventually the Supreme Court.

For example, I just took a look at Florida's election laws. There are no provisions that outline what happens when a nominated candidate either dies prior to the November election or backs out of the race AFTER winning the state primary. Conceivably, "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" would still be printed on Florida's ballots. Absent the Florida legislature amending its election laws and the Governor signing said law, the DNC would need to try to run a write-in campaign for a new POTUS nominee. And then you're going to get tons of issues with that - is the writing legible? How is write-in done with voting machines? Etc.

So yes, I am saying the Democratic Party would effectively have no nominee in most states.

We're stuck with Biden. Accept it and move on.

If we are stuck with Biden, then the easy choise is Trump. Thank you!

The election should be postponed until December to give the states time to put the new candidate on the ballot.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.

I don’t want to vote for Biden, but Trump is a criminal and will appoint more conservatives to the court.

It's been made abundantly clear that you'd vote for a corpse over Trump. My question is why the corpse over the myriad of younger, more competent Democrats. Out of the Democrats I know, absolutely no one likes Biden but they are all resigned to him. How did he win the primary if no one likes him?

Same way he won the election in 2020 while sitting in his basement doing nothing, maybe reading the occasional teleprompter. It was like giving the Make-a-wish kid the football and he gets to score a touchdown when nobody is allowed to tackle him.

An example of how the way was paved for old Joe: Trump tried to expose his blatant corruption in Ukraine, and was impeached for it.

It does feel different this time around, like Trump has turned the tables somehow, and Joe’s ring of protection is gone.

Drumpf hasn’t won anything yet, and good luck to him getting past millions of voters who staunchly oppose Project 2025

How does Trump expect to win the women vote?

That’s the beauty of it - he won’t win the female vote! He has boxed himself in with this Project 2025 garbage!

Uncle Joe is basically guaranteed a second term if the circular firing squad lowers their arms and gets on board with the winner

No one outside the far left is thinking about Project 2025.

You wish. Finally. FINALLY, regular people are talking about it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty much legally impossible for the Democrats to put anyone else on the state ballots at this point. Any attempt to swap candidates will be met with a raft of lawsuits in the state courts.

Even if Joe Biden resigns and Harris becomes POTUS 47 and she takes over the campaign apparatus and funds (legally allowed since she is named on FEC documents), she will likely face lawsuits in state courts because the names "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" are on the ballot. States may need to change laws to add a new VP candidate to the Democratic ticket. All of it will be challenged in court and then we will have the very undemocratic process of the Supreme Court saying who gets to run for POTUS/VP.

In short, this is concerning because states do not appear to have a seamless mechanism for replacing a candidate on the ballot if someone dies after they have won the state nominating race. It is effectively an unconstitutional extra requirement to someone running for POTUS or VP. It's a much bigger problem than Joe Biden.

Your assertion makes no sense. Biden is not an indentured servant and can drop out. Are you saying if he were to be hit by a bus, the Democratic Party would have no nominee?

And if this were true, no Democrat would be suggesting that Biden withdraw his candidacy.

There is no nationalized standard to replace a POTUS candidate on a state ballot. It would be a 50 state process that would come down to interpretations of election laws, lawsuits, judges, and eventually the Supreme Court.

For example, I just took a look at Florida's election laws. There are no provisions that outline what happens when a nominated candidate either dies prior to the November election or backs out of the race AFTER winning the state primary. Conceivably, "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" would still be printed on Florida's ballots. Absent the Florida legislature amending its election laws and the Governor signing said law, the DNC would need to try to run a write-in campaign for a new POTUS nominee. And then you're going to get tons of issues with that - is the writing legible? How is write-in done with voting machines? Etc.

So yes, I am saying the Democratic Party would effectively have no nominee in most states.

We're stuck with Biden. Accept it and move on.

If we are stuck with Biden, then the easy choise is Trump. Thank you!

The election should be postponed until December to give the states time to put the new candidate on the ballot.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty much legally impossible for the Democrats to put anyone else on the state ballots at this point. Any attempt to swap candidates will be met with a raft of lawsuits in the state courts.

Even if Joe Biden resigns and Harris becomes POTUS 47 and she takes over the campaign apparatus and funds (legally allowed since she is named on FEC documents), she will likely face lawsuits in state courts because the names "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" are on the ballot. States may need to change laws to add a new VP candidate to the Democratic ticket. All of it will be challenged in court and then we will have the very undemocratic process of the Supreme Court saying who gets to run for POTUS/VP.

In short, this is concerning because states do not appear to have a seamless mechanism for replacing a candidate on the ballot if someone dies after they have won the state nominating race. It is effectively an unconstitutional extra requirement to someone running for POTUS or VP. It's a much bigger problem than Joe Biden.

Your assertion makes no sense. Biden is not an indentured servant and can drop out. Are you saying if he were to be hit by a bus, the Democratic Party would have no nominee?

And if this were true, no Democrat would be suggesting that Biden withdraw his candidacy.

There is no nationalized standard to replace a POTUS candidate on a state ballot. It would be a 50 state process that would come down to interpretations of election laws, lawsuits, judges, and eventually the Supreme Court.

For example, I just took a look at Florida's election laws. There are no provisions that outline what happens when a nominated candidate either dies prior to the November election or backs out of the race AFTER winning the state primary. Conceivably, "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" would still be printed on Florida's ballots. Absent the Florida legislature amending its election laws and the Governor signing said law, the DNC would need to try to run a write-in campaign for a new POTUS nominee. And then you're going to get tons of issues with that - is the writing legible? How is write-in done with voting machines? Etc.

So yes, I am saying the Democratic Party would effectively have no nominee in most states.

We're stuck with Biden. Accept it and move on.

If we are stuck with Biden, then the easy choise is Trump. Thank you!

The election should be postponed until December to give the states time to put the new candidate on the ballot.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty much legally impossible for the Democrats to put anyone else on the state ballots at this point. Any attempt to swap candidates will be met with a raft of lawsuits in the state courts.

Even if Joe Biden resigns and Harris becomes POTUS 47 and she takes over the campaign apparatus and funds (legally allowed since she is named on FEC documents), she will likely face lawsuits in state courts because the names "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" are on the ballot. States may need to change laws to add a new VP candidate to the Democratic ticket. All of it will be challenged in court and then we will have the very undemocratic process of the Supreme Court saying who gets to run for POTUS/VP.

In short, this is concerning because states do not appear to have a seamless mechanism for replacing a candidate on the ballot if someone dies after they have won the state nominating race. It is effectively an unconstitutional extra requirement to someone running for POTUS or VP. It's a much bigger problem than Joe Biden.

Your assertion makes no sense. Biden is not an indentured servant and can drop out. Are you saying if he were to be hit by a bus, the Democratic Party would have no nominee?

And if this were true, no Democrat would be suggesting that Biden withdraw his candidacy.

There is no nationalized standard to replace a POTUS candidate on a state ballot. It would be a 50 state process that would come down to interpretations of election laws, lawsuits, judges, and eventually the Supreme Court.

For example, I just took a look at Florida's election laws. There are no provisions that outline what happens when a nominated candidate either dies prior to the November election or backs out of the race AFTER winning the state primary. Conceivably, "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" would still be printed on Florida's ballots. Absent the Florida legislature amending its election laws and the Governor signing said law, the DNC would need to try to run a write-in campaign for a new POTUS nominee. And then you're going to get tons of issues with that - is the writing legible? How is write-in done with voting machines? Etc.

So yes, I am saying the Democratic Party would effectively have no nominee in most states.

We're stuck with Biden. Accept it and move on.

If we are stuck with Biden, then the easy choise is Trump. Thank you!

Anonymous wrote:I think that given the fact that Trump is also almost as old as Biden, that he shows serious cognitive decline, his inability to stay on point, his frequent incoherent rambling, his degeneration from being an articulate speaker to using a 5th-grade vocabulary, his frequent slurred and confused words, his delusional rants about weird made-up things like boat-battery-shark scenarios and having to flush the toilet 15 times - it's clear to me that Trump is objectively every bit as bad, if not worse than Biden.

But the fact that the posters here who carry on and on about "as a Democrat I..." and being shocked and dismayed about Biden either a.) quickly dismiss Trump's issues or b.) don't engage at all regarding Trump's age, health, and serious decline leads me to believe that a sizeable percentage of the "as a Democrat..." commentary here is anything of the sort, and instead it's concern trolling.

If you're concerned then you should ALSO be concerned about Trump. I'm not seeing it. You're all dishonest for not discussing it.

Anonymous wrote:I think that given the fact that Trump is also almost as old as Biden, that he shows serious cognitive decline, his inability to stay on point, his frequent incoherent rambling, his degeneration from being an articulate speaker to using a 5th-grade vocabulary, his frequent slurred and confused words, his delusional rants about weird made-up things like boat-battery-shark scenarios and having to flush the toilet 15 times - it's clear to me that Trump is objectively every bit as bad, if not worse than Biden.

But the fact that the posters here who carry on and on about "as a Democrat I..." and being shocked and dismayed about Biden either a.) quickly dismiss Trump's issues or b.) don't engage at all regarding Trump's age, health, and serious decline leads me to believe that a sizeable percentage of the "as a Democrat..." commentary here is anything of the sort, and instead it's concern trolling.

If you're concerned then you should ALSO be concerned about Trump. I'm not seeing it. You're all dishonest for not discussing it.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.

I don’t want to vote for Biden, but Trump is a criminal and will appoint more conservatives to the court.

It's been made abundantly clear that you'd vote for a corpse over Trump. My question is why the corpse over the myriad of younger, more competent Democrats. Out of the Democrats I know, absolutely no one likes Biden but they are all resigned to him. How did he win the primary if no one likes him?

Same way he won the election in 2020 while sitting in his basement doing nothing, maybe reading the occasional teleprompter. It was like giving the Make-a-wish kid the football and he gets to score a touchdown when nobody is allowed to tackle him.

An example of how the way was paved for old Joe: Trump tried to expose his blatant corruption in Ukraine, and was impeached for it.

It does feel different this time around, like Trump has turned the tables somehow, and Joe’s ring of protection is gone.

Trump won the only primary that matters, the one that you and I don't get to vote in. He won that primary by being more pro-Israeli/war than Biden and his crew. He's bean picked to give them the war they want.