Anonymous
05/09/2024 13:05
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How pathetic School Board uses SES as a smoke screen to engage in racial balancing. Even more pathetic is the equity minion on this forum who keeps using SES disingenuously to disparage hardworking merit students.
Call me crazy, but I believe that underprivileged socioeconomic status and merit aren't mutually exclusive.
The problem is that you see only a narrow range of metrics by which you want to try to identify merit - and my guess is that that narrow range is one that happens to be favorable to you or your group in some way.
I don't think the new admissions process is perfect by any means, but the products of it are changing TJ for the better. Hopefully the new process will continue to be tweaked.
Even the poorest communities in Virginia are considered privileged when compared to other parts the the country. It is not "poverty" that is keeping these kids down. It's laziness. On average, the past few incoming classes are putting in less effort than previous classes.
WTAF? Do you even hear yourself?
Anonymous
05/09/2024 13:01
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How pathetic School Board uses SES as a smoke screen to engage in racial balancing. Even more pathetic is the equity minion on this forum who keeps using SES disingenuously to disparage hardworking merit students.
Call me crazy, but I believe that underprivileged socioeconomic status and merit aren't mutually exclusive.
The problem is that you see only a narrow range of metrics by which you want to try to identify merit - and my guess is that that narrow range is one that happens to be favorable to you or your group in some way.
I don't think the new admissions process is perfect by any means, but the products of it are changing TJ for the better. Hopefully the new process will continue to be tweaked.
Even the poorest communities in Virginia are considered privileged when compared to other parts the the country. It is not "poverty" that is keeping these kids down. It's laziness. On average, the past few incoming classes are putting in less effort than previous classes.
You're going to need to show your work on that one.
It's just another far-right conspiracy theory with 0 evidence. Admission is race blind. Asians just happen to be the most represented since they apply in greater number. This was true before the changes and still true afteward.
My fact is straight from the horse's mouth. The ones in the trenches. The teachers. Where are you pulling your facts to spin your agenda?
One of the most notable, and most unexpected, effects of the pandemic that teachers have seen is that kids forgot how to student. How to pay attention, study, learn, think. Teachers are having to reteach kids how to be students, because during the pandemic, they forgot.
TJ teachers are going to have to teach, too.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 13:01
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How pathetic School Board uses SES as a smoke screen to engage in racial balancing. Even more pathetic is the equity minion on this forum who keeps using SES disingenuously to disparage hardworking merit students.
Call me crazy, but I believe that underprivileged socioeconomic status and merit aren't mutually exclusive.
The problem is that you see only a narrow range of metrics by which you want to try to identify merit - and my guess is that that narrow range is one that happens to be favorable to you or your group in some way.
I don't think the new admissions process is perfect by any means, but the products of it are changing TJ for the better. Hopefully the new process will continue to be tweaked.
Even the poorest communities in Virginia are considered privileged when compared to other parts the the country. It is not "poverty" that is keeping these kids down. It's laziness. On average, the past few incoming classes are putting in less effort than previous classes.
You're going to need to show your work on that one.
It's just another far-right conspiracy theory with 0 evidence. Admission is race blind. Asians just happen to be the most represented since they apply in greater number. This was true before the changes and still true afteward.
My fact is straight from the horse's mouth. The ones in the trenches. The teachers. Where are you pulling your facts to spin your agenda?
Strongly doubt this. TJ teachers in the past have been quite public about their displeasure with admitted classes and this is not happening in today's environment. You also have plenty of recently retired teachers who would be able to speak about this matter with zero consequence if it were a thing that existed.
But "I heard" isn't going to cut it in a conversation like this, any more than "I heard the new process selected for merit instead of test buying" or "I heard the new classes are even stronger than the ones before because it's harder to cheat".
Anonymous
05/09/2024 12:55
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How pathetic School Board uses SES as a smoke screen to engage in racial balancing. Even more pathetic is the equity minion on this forum who keeps using SES disingenuously to disparage hardworking merit students.
Call me crazy, but I believe that underprivileged socioeconomic status and merit aren't mutually exclusive.
The problem is that you see only a narrow range of metrics by which you want to try to identify merit - and my guess is that that narrow range is one that happens to be favorable to you or your group in some way.
I don't think the new admissions process is perfect by any means, but the products of it are changing TJ for the better. Hopefully the new process will continue to be tweaked.
Even the poorest communities in Virginia are considered privileged when compared to other parts the the country. It is not "poverty" that is keeping these kids down. It's laziness. On average, the past few incoming classes are putting in less effort than previous classes.
You're going to need to show your work on that one.
It's just another far-right conspiracy theory with 0 evidence. Admission is race blind. Asians just happen to be the most represented since they apply in greater number. This was true before the changes and still true afteward.
My fact is straight from the horse's mouth. The ones in the trenches. The teachers. Where are you pulling your facts to spin your agenda?
Anonymous
05/09/2024 12:55
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How pathetic School Board uses SES as a smoke screen to engage in racial balancing. Even more pathetic is the equity minion on this forum who keeps using SES disingenuously to disparage hardworking merit students.
Call me crazy, but I believe that underprivileged socioeconomic status and merit aren't mutually exclusive.
The problem is that you see only a narrow range of metrics by which you want to try to identify merit - and my guess is that that narrow range is one that happens to be favorable to you or your group in some way.
I don't think the new admissions process is perfect by any means, but the products of it are changing TJ for the better. Hopefully the new process will continue to be tweaked.
Even the poorest communities in Virginia are considered privileged when compared to other parts the the country. It is not "poverty" that is keeping these kids down. It's laziness. On average, the past few incoming classes are putting in less effort than previous classes.
You're going to need to show your work on that one.
My fact is straight from the horse's mouth. The ones in the trenches. The teachers. Where are you pulling your facts to spin your agenda?
It's just another far-right conspiracy theory with 0 evidence. Admission is race blind. Asians just happen to be the most represented since they apply in greater number. This was true before the changes and still true afteward.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 12:47
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How pathetic School Board uses SES as a smoke screen to engage in racial balancing. Even more pathetic is the equity minion on this forum who keeps using SES disingenuously to disparage hardworking merit students.
Call me crazy, but I believe that underprivileged socioeconomic status and merit aren't mutually exclusive.
The problem is that you see only a narrow range of metrics by which you want to try to identify merit - and my guess is that that narrow range is one that happens to be favorable to you or your group in some way.
I don't think the new admissions process is perfect by any means, but the products of it are changing TJ for the better. Hopefully the new process will continue to be tweaked.
Even the poorest communities in Virginia are considered privileged when compared to other parts the the country. It is not "poverty" that is keeping these kids down. It's laziness. On average, the past few incoming classes are putting in less effort than previous classes.
You're going to need to show your work on that one.
It's just another far-right conspiracy theory with 0 evidence. Admission is race blind. Asians just happen to be the most represented since they apply in greater number. This was true before the changes and still true afteward.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 12:47
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How pathetic School Board uses SES as a smoke screen to engage in racial balancing. Even more pathetic is the equity minion on this forum who keeps using SES disingenuously to disparage hardworking merit students.
Call me crazy, but I believe that underprivileged socioeconomic status and merit aren't mutually exclusive.
The problem is that you see only a narrow range of metrics by which you want to try to identify merit - and my guess is that that narrow range is one that happens to be favorable to you or your group in some way.
I don't think the new admissions process is perfect by any means, but the products of it are changing TJ for the better. Hopefully the new process will continue to be tweaked.
Even the poorest communities in Virginia are considered privileged when compared to other parts the the country. It is not "poverty" that is keeping these kids down. It's laziness. On average, the past few incoming classes are putting in less effort than previous classes.
You're going to need to show your work on that one.
Teacher said so.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 12:44
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"test buying" racist has been posting racist message for years
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying+
The individual has been using "test buying" as a cover to malign students enrolled in outside enrichment programs, effectively attacking Asian Americans.
No. You are making the race association.
Who benefited the most from the change?
“low-income Asian American students, as well as Asian American students attending middle schools theretofore poorly represented at TJ, saw far more offers of admission to TJ than they had in earlier years.” - court of appeals
court of appeals is bunch of characters. However,
"On February 25, 2022, federal judge Claude Hilton ruled that Fairfax County school officials violated the law by changing admissions requirements to deliberately reduce the number of Asian American students enrolled."
Yes, Hilton did write that opinion. And the appeals court that he spent 41 years of his career trying to qualify for - and failing to do so - threw out his ruling and thoroughly embarrassed him in the process.
There is a reason he was stuck at the District level for his entire career.
Was that what your brigade told you to say? And if his ruling was the other way, Hilton is the best equity judge ever?
No one involved with this process was the "best equity judge ever". Hilton's opinion was essentially a copy-and-paste of the Coalition's arguments, which were then eviscerated by data in Heytens' concurrence in the Fourth Circuit's original decision to grant the emergency stay that allowed the process to continue, and again in his opinion overturning Hilton's error.
Hilton wrote a bad opinion, and in so doing provided evidence of why he's been stuck at the bottom rung of the federal judiciary for his whole career. No more, no less. Thankfully, the only impact it had was to delay the admissions process for the Class of 2026 slightly.
Every dog has its day. Judges like those in the Fourth Court for years out of political bias supported affirmative action that used students' skin color for admissions. Now that affirmative action is rightfully struck down, they all look like pathetic sheep.
"Many universities have for too long...concluded, wrongly, that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned but the color of their skin"
1) Please name the Fourth Circuit judges who have advocated for admission based on skin color.
2) The tone-deaf opinion in SFFA, and specifically that quote you referenced, seeks to negate the reality of lived experience in America, where your life and the opportunities afforded to you are indeed quite different based on the color of your skin.
The thing that people refuse to understand/accept/absorb is that, even with affirmative action and diversity/equity/inclusion initiatives in place, if you woke up tomorrow and the only thing about you that changed was that you would spend the rest of your life looking like a Black person, your life would get harder immediately. No matter where you are right now and what walk of life you're in. Your life would be worse in America if you woke up Black tomorrow. Full stop.
Until that is no longer the case, equity initiatives are not only required but a moral imperative.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 12:37
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How pathetic School Board uses SES as a smoke screen to engage in racial balancing. Even more pathetic is the equity minion on this forum who keeps using SES disingenuously to disparage hardworking merit students.
Call me crazy, but I believe that underprivileged socioeconomic status and merit aren't mutually exclusive.
The problem is that you see only a narrow range of metrics by which you want to try to identify merit - and my guess is that that narrow range is one that happens to be favorable to you or your group in some way.
I don't think the new admissions process is perfect by any means, but the products of it are changing TJ for the better. Hopefully the new process will continue to be tweaked.
Even the poorest communities in Virginia are considered privileged when compared to other parts the the country. It is not "poverty" that is keeping these kids down. It's laziness. On average, the past few incoming classes are putting in less effort than previous classes.
You're going to need to show your work on that one.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 11:54
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"test buying" racist has been posting racist message for years
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying+
The individual has been using "test buying" as a cover to malign students enrolled in outside enrichment programs, effectively attacking Asian Americans.
No. You are making the race association.
Who benefited the most from the change?
“low-income Asian American students, as well as Asian American students attending middle schools theretofore poorly represented at TJ, saw far more offers of admission to TJ than they had in earlier years.” - court of appeals
court of appeals is bunch of characters. However,
"On February 25, 2022, federal judge Claude Hilton ruled that Fairfax County school officials violated the law by changing admissions requirements to deliberately reduce the number of Asian American students enrolled."
Yes, Hilton did write that opinion. And the appeals court that he spent 41 years of his career trying to qualify for - and failing to do so - threw out his ruling and thoroughly embarrassed him in the process.
There is a reason he was stuck at the District level for his entire career.
Was that what your brigade told you to say? And if his ruling was the other way, Hilton is the best equity judge ever?
No one involved with this process was the "best equity judge ever". Hilton's opinion was essentially a copy-and-paste of the Coalition's arguments, which were then eviscerated by data in Heytens' concurrence in the Fourth Circuit's original decision to grant the emergency stay that allowed the process to continue, and again in his opinion overturning Hilton's error.
Hilton wrote a bad opinion, and in so doing provided evidence of why he's been stuck at the bottom rung of the federal judiciary for his whole career. No more, no less. Thankfully, the only impact it had was to delay the admissions process for the Class of 2026 slightly.
Every dog has its day. Judges like those in the Fourth Court for years out of political bias supported affirmative action that used students' skin color for admissions. Now that affirmative action is rightfully struck down, they all look like pathetic sheep.
"Many universities have for too long...concluded, wrongly, that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned but the color of their skin"
Anonymous
05/09/2024 11:46
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"test buying" racist has been posting racist message for years
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying+
The individual has been using "test buying" as a cover to malign students enrolled in outside enrichment programs, effectively attacking Asian Americans.
No. You are making the race association.
Who benefited the most from the change?
“low-income Asian American students, as well as Asian American students attending middle schools theretofore poorly represented at TJ, saw far more offers of admission to TJ than they had in earlier years.” - court of appeals
court of appeals is bunch of characters. However,
"On February 25, 2022, federal judge Claude Hilton ruled that Fairfax County school officials violated the law by changing admissions requirements to deliberately reduce the number of Asian American students enrolled."
Yes, Hilton did write that opinion. And the appeals court that he spent 41 years of his career trying to qualify for - and failing to do so - threw out his ruling and thoroughly embarrassed him in the process.
There is a reason he was stuck at the District level for his entire career.
Yep
Anonymous
05/09/2024 11:45
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How pathetic School Board uses SES as a smoke screen to engage in racial balancing. Even more pathetic is the equity minion on this forum who keeps using SES disingenuously to disparage hardworking merit students.
Call me crazy, but I believe that underprivileged socioeconomic status and merit aren't mutually exclusive.
The problem is that you see only a narrow range of metrics by which you want to try to identify merit - and my guess is that that narrow range is one that happens to be favorable to you or your group in some way.
I don't think the new admissions process is perfect by any means, but the products of it are changing TJ for the better. Hopefully the new process will continue to be tweaked.
BINGO!
Anonymous
05/09/2024 11:44
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How pathetic School Board uses SES as a smoke screen to engage in racial balancing. Even more pathetic is the equity minion on this forum who keeps using SES disingenuously to disparage hardworking merit students.
Call me crazy, but I believe that underprivileged socioeconomic status and merit aren't mutually exclusive.
The problem is that you see only a narrow range of metrics by which you want to try to identify merit - and my guess is that that narrow range is one that happens to be favorable to you or your group in some way.
I don't think the new admissions process is perfect by any means, but the products of it are changing TJ for the better. Hopefully the new process will continue to be tweaked.
Even the poorest communities in Virginia are considered privileged when compared to other parts the the country. It is not "poverty" that is keeping these kids down. It's laziness. On average, the past few incoming classes are putting in less effort than previous classes.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 11:44
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"test buying" racist has been posting racist message for years
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying+
The individual has been using "test buying" as a cover to malign students enrolled in outside enrichment programs, effectively attacking Asian Americans.
No. You are making the race association.
Who benefited the most from the change?
“low-income Asian American students, as well as Asian American students attending middle schools theretofore poorly represented at TJ, saw far more offers of admission to TJ than they had in earlier years.” - court of appeals
court of appeals is bunch of characters. However,
"On February 25, 2022, federal judge Claude Hilton ruled that Fairfax County school officials violated the law by changing admissions requirements to deliberately reduce the number of Asian American students enrolled."
And this was subsequently laughed out of court...
Anonymous
05/09/2024 11:43
Subject: TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News
Anonymous wrote:TJ teachers are frustrated with the new batch of underperforming students including the ones that cheat.
Teachers all over the country are noting the learning loss attributed to the pandemic, which remains unseen by parents. In some schools, today's students are one half to a whole grade behind grade level. In other schools, students are two grades behind the level of students before the pandemic.
Somehow, though, TJ students avoided that and are underperforming because of geography. I guess.