Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 18:32     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Its just a marketing scam. Maybe NVA takes one Valor kid per team, maybe.


Nope.. The Valor coaches get to select some auto invites to IDs. The NVA coaches already know the kids they are interested by word of mouth. Unless your kid does some messi level crap, they generally they are from other ECNL clubs. There is only one girl I know of that has an open offer. No boys that i know of. Again Ellis needs to fix this. It’s not an alliance.


Why would NVA take a kid from Valor that has not been properly trained/developed when they can get a better player from Loudoun or any other club? Don’t we want the ECNL teams to be the top players? They shouldn’t have to take a lesser skilled player because of a so called alliance. The alliance is a pathway to ECNL and that’s something parents want to hear. Marketing, plain and simple. But if a player isn’t good good enough then why put them there?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 17:51     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:Its just a marketing scam. Maybe NVA takes one Valor kid per team, maybe.


Nope.. The Valor coaches get to select some auto invites to IDs. The NVA coaches already know the kids they are interested by word of mouth. Unless your kid does some messi level crap, they generally they are from other ECNL clubs. There is only one girl I know of that has an open offer. No boys that i know of. Again Ellis needs to fix this. It’s not an alliance.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 17:06     Subject: Valor
Its just a marketing scam. Maybe NVA takes one Valor kid per team, maybe.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:54     Subject: Re:Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not a huge fan of Valor but since it's only been around 3 years, I'll cut some slack for now that they are still trying to figure out who they are. But honestly, all this talk about how they jsut want to fill the teams with paying customers, it takes two to tango here. Year after year parents keep coming back and writing the check. I am not sure why we are blaming them for being in business - if it's not a good one, the marekt will take care of that, no? Otherwise, if people keep lining up and paying, I don't see how the blame and horror is about how Valor isn't any good at what they do.


I agree to a certain extent. Yes, their younger teams have a lot of kids because parents didnt know any better. We did rec league with SYA and we weren't even considering a travel team. They pitched the idea and my kid loved it . First year was great. We had nothing to compare it to. Second year we kinda started mingling with other parents in and out of our club and found out that other teams do things differently. We started noticing the lack of coaching, training, development and third year we bounced bc of it.

So yes while some are writing checks the majority is in the very young age group. Are there families who stay after the 2-3rd year? Absolutely, some love valor but i think the main reason why is because they have never experienced other teams and coaches. I also think a lot of parents want it to get better and they have high hopes it will but there is only so long you can stay with them if your kid is serious. Also once you factor in all the external programs we paid for to make up for the lack of coaching it is cheaper to move clubs and find a great coach than it is staying will valor.


+1

We will start looking this spring.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:52     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Glad we left! Anyone know how many Valor girls were selected to be part of NVA?


None?


I would hope at least one got on the team. I know several girls got invited to id sessions from valor. I would also hope if no girls got on the NVA team from valor that they would stop this silly alliance because there is no benefit to valor kids.



Perhaps girls turned down an offer?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:50     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:NVA should be a 50/50 split between valor and loudoun right?


HAHAHA ummm no.
The alliance is all for show. Look at us. If you give us 3k per kid there is a tiny chance your kid might have a spot on the NVA team.

Oh wait, we aren't actually planning on developing your child so they would be good enough to make the team. But please give us the 3k.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:47     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Glad we left! Anyone know how many Valor girls were selected to be part of NVA?


None?


I would hope at least one got on the team. I know several girls got invited to id sessions from valor. I would also hope if no girls got on the NVA team from valor that they would stop this silly alliance because there is no benefit to valor kids.

Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:21     Subject: Valor
SYA and CYA have whole programs in their rec leagues designed to funnel as many little kids into Valor as possible (its about quantity not quality).

The people who run CYA rec soccer are cozy with the guys who run Valor and don't really care about the quality of their rec programs as long as the rec programs are making money. The guys who are paid to run CYA rec soccer programs also all double-dip as paid Valor employees/coaches. They are also in charge of taking the County fields permitted to CYA and letting Valor use the best fields. Why do you think CYA lets Valor practice on the nice fields the county gives them for rec teams to use but puts their minority kid rec teams to practice in dog poop? $$$$$
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:14     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have been with Valor 3 years now and have had a positive experience. Some moving of coaches and some communications issues, but our daughter loves her team and teammates and for us it fits. Each child is different and each family has different goals for their child. If at some point it doesnt work, we will look other places, but most times the grass isnt much greener.


Everyone who has posted in this thread who left Valor had proclaimed the grass is much greener.


When we left there are definitely things we miss.
The location of the fields was great. The quality of the fields were great. Now we drive significantly farther away and practices are much later. That's about all we miss.

However having a coach who wants to develop players makes the longer drives and late weekdays worth it.


Apparently that's because they steal County turf fields permitted to the CYA rec league and send the rec kids to practice in dog poop.


It's so sh!tty that they do that.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:12     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Glad we left! Anyone know how many Valor girls were selected to be part of NVA?


None?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:12     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:NVA should be a 50/50 split between valor and loudoun right?


Lol.. No 90% Loudoun.. 10% cherry picked from other ECNL clubs. If you want ECNL go to loudoun travel. Ellis needs to fix this.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:11     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have been with Valor 3 years now and have had a positive experience. Some moving of coaches and some communications issues, but our daughter loves her team and teammates and for us it fits. Each child is different and each family has different goals for their child. If at some point it doesnt work, we will look other places, but most times the grass isnt much greener.


Everyone who has posted in this thread who left Valor had proclaimed the grass is much greener.


When we left there are definitely things we miss.
The location of the fields was great. The quality of the fields were great. Now we drive significantly farther away and practices are much later. That's about all we miss.

However having a coach who wants to develop players makes the longer drives and late weekdays worth it.


Apparently that's because they steal County turf fields permitted to the CYA rec league and send the rec kids to practice in dog poop.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:07     Subject: Valor
NVA should be a 50/50 split between valor and loudoun right?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:02     Subject: Valor
Agreed. Glad we left! Anyone know how many Valor girls were selected to be part of NVA?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 14:16     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have been with Valor 3 years now and have had a positive experience. Some moving of coaches and some communications issues, but our daughter loves her team and teammates and for us it fits. Each child is different and each family has different goals for their child. If at some point it doesnt work, we will look other places, but most times the grass isnt much greener.


Everyone who has posted in this thread who left Valor had proclaimed the grass is much greener.


When we left there are definitely things we miss.
The location of the fields was great. The quality of the fields were great. Now we drive significantly farther away and practices are much later. That's about all we miss.

However having a coach who wants to develop players makes the longer drives and late weekdays worth it.