Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 12:36     Subject: Re:Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was the decision to remove before school year's end about trying to get families to not move over the summer?


Not based on any evidence I've seen, but even if it were, it's already too late. Private schools are fully enrolled for this coming year. Housing inventory is tight, mortgage rates usurious. You can't get there from here in time.


Oh sure you can. Right now would be the time frame for putting a house on the market in order to move for the following school year. Even if you don't fine a house in the new district by Fall, you can rent in that district.


Mmm, you'd have to shoot the moon in several different aspects for this plan to work, but I guess you could make it happen with enough money and enough luck. But that's no way to run a railroad, esp if your kid is happy with their friend group at Hardy and doesn't want to move.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 11:44     Subject: Re:Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was the decision to remove before school year's end about trying to get families to not move over the summer?


Not based on any evidence I've seen, but even if it were, it's already too late. Private schools are fully enrolled for this coming year. Housing inventory is tight, mortgage rates usurious. You can't get there from here in time.


Oh sure you can. Right now would be the time frame for putting a house on the market in order to move for the following school year. Even if you don't fine a house in the new district by Fall, you can rent in that district.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 11:37     Subject: Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If tackling structural racism means asking a parent to not advocate for their kid in the best way they can, I don’t see how we’ll make progress.



I think what most people are trying to tell you on this thread is that you are not advocating for kids in the best way possible


Why is this not the best way? Because you have created a racism straw man to deflect from an actual discussion? Your starting position is because the principal was black people needed to be careful because he's brittle. Setting aside the offensive racist stereotype of a black leader who can't handle criticism or meet the standard, the way you've set up the "rules" means anything but stroking his hair and telling him he's wonderful for trying hard is racism.

You have lots of commentary for how this was not the right way to do it. Tell us (without injecting false accusations of racism) what should have been done. We'll wait...


I and many other posters have done none of this, so I don't really feel like there is anything to respond to here. I've shared above why this has damaged the school community not just this year but going forward.


And? Yes, the petition was an extreme action. The DCPS (or PJ?) decision to effect reassignment before the end of the year was dramatic.

The change is disruptive, but the situation was untenable.


If this situation is what you consider untenable, then you have had a blessed life. Not one person has argued that Hardy is idyllic; but people on here are acting as if no learning has happened, as if its impossible to survive a day without being injured, and none of that is true.

To not give a person one year to learn how to do an incredibly complex job is absolutely ridiculous. The way some of you continue to justify your behavior, despite the fact that you've set the school up for a miserable transition, is really disheartening.


It's highly probable that there was more going on than any of us outside of DCPS Central are privy to, but from what I've read and heard the issue was not just a lack of competency (which no one can reasonably expect of a first year principal) but of honesty, transparency, and openness to support. Competency can indeed be built up over time, but the other issues were more problematic and suggest that things would not have improved with time.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 10:37     Subject: Re:Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was the decision to remove before school year's end about trying to get families to not move over the summer?


Not based on any evidence I've seen, but even if it were, it's already too late. Private schools are fully enrolled for this coming year. Housing inventory is tight, mortgage rates usurious. You can't get there from here in time.


Renters have options. We were thinking about moving.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 10:33     Subject: Re:Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:Was the decision to remove before school year's end about trying to get families to not move over the summer?


Not based on any evidence I've seen, but even if it were, it's already too late. Private schools are fully enrolled for this coming year. Housing inventory is tight, mortgage rates usurious. You can't get there from here in time.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 10:12     Subject: Re:Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:Was the decision to remove before school year's end about trying to get families to not move over the summer?


The parents wanted a plan to find a new principal for the next school year before the principal hiring window soon closes.

Why the current principal was removed before the end of this school year is unknown outside of DCPS, as far as I know. Perhaps DCPS had reasons, perhaps PJ preferred to be done in the circumstance -- random parents like me do not know.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 10:07     Subject: Re:Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Was the decision to remove before school year's end about trying to get families to not move over the summer?
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 10:05     Subject: Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If tackling structural racism means asking a parent to not advocate for their kid in the best way they can, I don’t see how we’ll make progress.



I think what most people are trying to tell you on this thread is that you are not advocating for kids in the best way possible


Why is this not the best way? Because you have created a racism straw man to deflect from an actual discussion? Your starting position is because the principal was black people needed to be careful because he's brittle. Setting aside the offensive racist stereotype of a black leader who can't handle criticism or meet the standard, the way you've set up the "rules" means anything but stroking his hair and telling him he's wonderful for trying hard is racism.

You have lots of commentary for how this was not the right way to do it. Tell us (without injecting false accusations of racism) what should have been done. We'll wait...


I and many other posters have done none of this, so I don't really feel like there is anything to respond to here. I've shared above why this has damaged the school community not just this year but going forward.


Freudian slip aside (you have indeed done "none of this"), I can't find it on the almost 40 pages of preceding posts. I can find plenty of examples of people incorrectly claiming the parents went from nothing to removal in one meeting, but that has been debunked with facts and details. Why don't you point us to the posts where anyone suggests anything other than claiming removal was racism. Or just offer a suggestion for what could have been done?

Again, we'll wait...


You could let the people in charge of DCPS work with a new leader. They would have probably put him on a PIP, been more hands on with the school from the start next year, send in some swing support from central. You chose to overstep and its done now. I guess you will all have to live with whomever comes next, and whatever staff remains.

I can tell you though, as someone who works personnel, filling classrooms with bodies is easy. Filling them with good teachers who want to be there is tough. Any highly qualified teacher in DCPS is getting multiple offers these days, and I have no idea why they would choose Hardy after this.


The "people in charge of DCPS" have, of course, been involved. It's a bizarre assumption to think that they were not already trying to support a new principal and to think patents had not expressed concerns before last week.

Also the parents don't "let" DCPS do anything. All they can do is share information and perspectives snd make requests.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 10:01     Subject: Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If tackling structural racism means asking a parent to not advocate for their kid in the best way they can, I don’t see how we’ll make progress.



I think what most people are trying to tell you on this thread is that you are not advocating for kids in the best way possible


Why is this not the best way? Because you have created a racism straw man to deflect from an actual discussion? Your starting position is because the principal was black people needed to be careful because he's brittle. Setting aside the offensive racist stereotype of a black leader who can't handle criticism or meet the standard, the way you've set up the "rules" means anything but stroking his hair and telling him he's wonderful for trying hard is racism.

You have lots of commentary for how this was not the right way to do it. Tell us (without injecting false accusations of racism) what should have been done. We'll wait...


I and many other posters have done none of this, so I don't really feel like there is anything to respond to here. I've shared above why this has damaged the school community not just this year but going forward.


And? Yes, the petition was an extreme action. The DCPS (or PJ?) decision to effect reassignment before the end of the year was dramatic.

The change is disruptive, but the situation was untenable.


If this situation is what you consider untenable, then you have had a blessed life. Not one person has argued that Hardy is idyllic; but people on here are acting as if no learning has happened, as if its impossible to survive a day without being injured, and none of that is true.

To not give a person one year to learn how to do an incredibly complex job is absolutely ridiculous. The way some of you continue to justify your behavior, despite the fact that you've set the school up for a miserable transition, is really disheartening.


It is telling that the best anyone can say in defense of the Principal is that no one died and it wasn't a hellscape. Also that he tried really hard and the job is hard.


It was in a response to someone saying the situation was untenable. It wasn't. There was no reason to pretend this was a crisis that required immediate removal.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 09:58     Subject: Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If tackling structural racism means asking a parent to not advocate for their kid in the best way they can, I don’t see how we’ll make progress.



I think what most people are trying to tell you on this thread is that you are not advocating for kids in the best way possible


Why is this not the best way? Because you have created a racism straw man to deflect from an actual discussion? Your starting position is because the principal was black people needed to be careful because he's brittle. Setting aside the offensive racist stereotype of a black leader who can't handle criticism or meet the standard, the way you've set up the "rules" means anything but stroking his hair and telling him he's wonderful for trying hard is racism.

You have lots of commentary for how this was not the right way to do it. Tell us (without injecting false accusations of racism) what should have been done. We'll wait...


I and many other posters have done none of this, so I don't really feel like there is anything to respond to here. I've shared above why this has damaged the school community not just this year but going forward.


Freudian slip aside (you have indeed done "none of this"), I can't find it on the almost 40 pages of preceding posts. I can find plenty of examples of people incorrectly claiming the parents went from nothing to removal in one meeting, but that has been debunked with facts and details. Why don't you point us to the posts where anyone suggests anything other than claiming removal was racism. Or just offer a suggestion for what could have been done?

Again, we'll wait...


You could let the people in charge of DCPS work with a new leader. They would have probably put him on a PIP, been more hands on with the school from the start next year, send in some swing support from central. You chose to overstep and its done now. I guess you will all have to live with whomever comes next, and whatever staff remains.

I can tell you though, as someone who works personnel, filling classrooms with bodies is easy. Filling them with good teachers who want to be there is tough. Any highly qualified teacher in DCPS is getting multiple offers these days, and I have no idea why they would choose Hardy after this.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 09:56     Subject: Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If tackling structural racism means asking a parent to not advocate for their kid in the best way they can, I don’t see how we’ll make progress.



I think what most people are trying to tell you on this thread is that you are not advocating for kids in the best way possible


Why is this not the best way? Because you have created a racism straw man to deflect from an actual discussion? Your starting position is because the principal was black people needed to be careful because he's brittle. Setting aside the offensive racist stereotype of a black leader who can't handle criticism or meet the standard, the way you've set up the "rules" means anything but stroking his hair and telling him he's wonderful for trying hard is racism.

You have lots of commentary for how this was not the right way to do it. Tell us (without injecting false accusations of racism) what should have been done. We'll wait...


I and many other posters have done none of this, so I don't really feel like there is anything to respond to here. I've shared above why this has damaged the school community not just this year but going forward.


And? Yes, the petition was an extreme action. The DCPS (or PJ?) decision to effect reassignment before the end of the year was dramatic.

The change is disruptive, but the situation was untenable.


If this situation is what you consider untenable, then you have had a blessed life. Not one person has argued that Hardy is idyllic; but people on here are acting as if no learning has happened, as if its impossible to survive a day without being injured, and none of that is true.

To not give a person one year to learn how to do an incredibly complex job is absolutely ridiculous. The way some of you continue to justify your behavior, despite the fact that you've set the school up for a miserable transition, is really disheartening.


It is telling that the best anyone can say in defense of the Principal is that no one died and it wasn't a hellscape. Also that he tried really hard and the job is hard.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 09:55     Subject: Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If tackling structural racism means asking a parent to not advocate for their kid in the best way they can, I don’t see how we’ll make progress.



I think what most people are trying to tell you on this thread is that you are not advocating for kids in the best way possible


Why is this not the best way? Because you have created a racism straw man to deflect from an actual discussion? Your starting position is because the principal was black people needed to be careful because he's brittle. Setting aside the offensive racist stereotype of a black leader who can't handle criticism or meet the standard, the way you've set up the "rules" means anything but stroking his hair and telling him he's wonderful for trying hard is racism.

You have lots of commentary for how this was not the right way to do it. Tell us (without injecting false accusations of racism) what should have been done. We'll wait...


I and many other posters have done none of this, so I don't really feel like there is anything to respond to here. I've shared above why this has damaged the school community not just this year but going forward.


Freudian slip aside (you have indeed done "none of this"), I can't find it on the almost 40 pages of preceding posts. I can find plenty of examples of people incorrectly claiming the parents went from nothing to removal in one meeting, but that has been debunked with facts and details. Why don't you point us to the posts where anyone suggests anything other than claiming removal was racism. Or just offer a suggestion for what could have been done?

Again, we'll wait...
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 09:54     Subject: Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If tackling structural racism means asking a parent to not advocate for their kid in the best way they can, I don’t see how we’ll make progress.



I think what most people are trying to tell you on this thread is that you are not advocating for kids in the best way possible


Why is this not the best way? Because you have created a racism straw man to deflect from an actual discussion? Your starting position is because the principal was black people needed to be careful because he's brittle. Setting aside the offensive racist stereotype of a black leader who can't handle criticism or meet the standard, the way you've set up the "rules" means anything but stroking his hair and telling him he's wonderful for trying hard is racism.

You have lots of commentary for how this was not the right way to do it. Tell us (without injecting false accusations of racism) what should have been done. We'll wait...


I and many other posters have done none of this, so I don't really feel like there is anything to respond to here. I've shared above why this has damaged the school community not just this year but going forward.


And? Yes, the petition was an extreme action. The DCPS (or PJ?) decision to effect reassignment before the end of the year was dramatic.

The change is disruptive, but the situation was untenable.


If this situation is what you consider untenable, then you have had a blessed life. Not one person has argued that Hardy is idyllic; but people on here are acting as if no learning has happened, as if its impossible to survive a day without being injured, and none of that is true.

To not give a person one year to learn how to do an incredibly complex job is absolutely ridiculous. The way some of you continue to justify your behavior, despite the fact that you've set the school up for a miserable transition, is really disheartening.


I appreciate your empathy for PJ. It is harsh for him.

But you are acting as if suddenly everything would be solved after a year of ramp up, and next year would be back to normal. The track record quite clearly indicated otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 09:47     Subject: Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If tackling structural racism means asking a parent to not advocate for their kid in the best way they can, I don’t see how we’ll make progress.



I think what most people are trying to tell you on this thread is that you are not advocating for kids in the best way possible


Why is this not the best way? Because you have created a racism straw man to deflect from an actual discussion? Your starting position is because the principal was black people needed to be careful because he's brittle. Setting aside the offensive racist stereotype of a black leader who can't handle criticism or meet the standard, the way you've set up the "rules" means anything but stroking his hair and telling him he's wonderful for trying hard is racism.

You have lots of commentary for how this was not the right way to do it. Tell us (without injecting false accusations of racism) what should have been done. We'll wait...


I and many other posters have done none of this, so I don't really feel like there is anything to respond to here. I've shared above why this has damaged the school community not just this year but going forward.


And? Yes, the petition was an extreme action. The DCPS (or PJ?) decision to effect reassignment before the end of the year was dramatic.

The change is disruptive, but the situation was untenable.


If this situation is what you consider untenable, then you have had a blessed life. Not one person has argued that Hardy is idyllic; but people on here are acting as if no learning has happened, as if its impossible to survive a day without being injured, and none of that is true.

To not give a person one year to learn how to do an incredibly complex job is absolutely ridiculous. The way some of you continue to justify your behavior, despite the fact that you've set the school up for a miserable transition, is really disheartening.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2023 09:44     Subject: Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If tackling structural racism means asking a parent to not advocate for their kid in the best way they can, I don’t see how we’ll make progress.



I think what most people are trying to tell you on this thread is that you are not advocating for kids in the best way possible


Why is this not the best way? Because you have created a racism straw man to deflect from an actual discussion? Your starting position is because the principal was black people needed to be careful because he's brittle. Setting aside the offensive racist stereotype of a black leader who can't handle criticism or meet the standard, the way you've set up the "rules" means anything but stroking his hair and telling him he's wonderful for trying hard is racism.

You have lots of commentary for how this was not the right way to do it. Tell us (without injecting false accusations of racism) what should have been done. We'll wait...


I and many other posters have done none of this, so I don't really feel like there is anything to respond to here. I've shared above why this has damaged the school community not just this year but going forward.


And? Yes, the petition was an extreme action. The DCPS (or PJ?) decision to effect reassignment before the end of the year was dramatic.

The change is disruptive, but the situation was untenable.