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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are still having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that schools WERE closed for too long with disastrous results. That’s not even a controversial opinion at this point.

You’re blinded by hindsight.

It was reasonable to wait until teachers had vaccines.

Bullying others was not reasonable.

Yeah except you still did it anyway.

Which then led to you not being able to be reasonable but instead overcome with anxiety.

Thus leading to the disastrous results.

Now you have a chance to be a better person.

Acceptance and acknowledging your part is the first step.

WTF are you talking about. After teachers had vaccines, kids went back.

None of the APE bullying helped - in fact it significantly hurt our community.

Anonymous wrote:Dem here. I was ready in Fall 2020. As two working parents with a toddler at home, we made the choice to send our rising 1st grader to one of the few area camps that opened in summer 2020. It brought our child back to life. We sent our other child back to daycare when it re-opened. All activities were masked, and, yes, it felt scary, but, the benefits of the return of some semblance of normalcy were immediately obvious and apparent.

It makes me so angry that so much of this was contorted to be about political leanings, when it was a public health crisis. People refused to consider various choices/options/responses as anything other than a political statement, and clearly, still here on this board, people are using broad stroke categories to try and paint and pin others into corners carte blanche. Sad state we are in.

Yes, Trump politicized a public health emergency and MAGAs went off the deep end. So here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are still having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that schools WERE closed for too long with disastrous results. That’s not even a controversial opinion at this point.

You’re blinded by hindsight.

It was reasonable to wait until teachers had vaccines.

Bullying others was not reasonable.

Except that many red states had schools that were open before vaccines, and did just fine. Plus all the local privates. It was not reasonable. It was a disaster, still is, and will take years or possibly decades to recover from. (Thus all the focus on learning loss.)

Your true colors are showing.

I was skeptical when Florida, Georgia, etc. opened full time in person in fall 2020. It felt very risky. The thing is, nothing bad happened. We could have learned from that, but we didn't because politics.

They have more space, milder weather to keep windows open, etc.

Plus we were all expecting the winter surge.

You’re conveniently neglecting large portions of what happened at the time.

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Anonymous wrote:I look forward to the debates where Miranda can go on the record to say how she feels about learning loss and who it affects, trans rights, "CRT", SROs, banning books and the like.

I don't want to vote for that kid Antonio, but he may be the one based on her answers instead of people here speaking for her.

This is idiotic. Why does he get the benefit of the doubt? What are his informed opinions and experience with the issues you outlined? You just make baseless assumptions. So pathetic.

I’m not giving Angelo the benefit of the doubt either. I expect full answers to these issues too. No wavering. Yes or no answers.

Hi all - APE Board Member here - our group rules are posted on our Facebook forum if anyone would like to take a look. Bullying comments are not allowed and are deleted or requested to be edited at our request. We strongly encourage respectful debate and disagreement. Our forum has over a thousand parents and teachers who may have different POVs on a wide range of issues (something I think is unique in todays world) but ad hominem attacks are not allowed and respect is required. Also, as we mention in our rules, the forum (aka fb group) is NOT Arlington Parent’s official platform, you can find that on our Facebook page and website at Arlingtonparents.org. We want the forum to be an asset for all arlingtonians as a place to learn from each other, ask for information, etc. Our moderators try very hard to facilitate conversation and dialogue while respecting differences of opinion. Thanks!

Dem here. I was ready in Fall 2020. As two working parents with a toddler at home, we made the choice to send our rising 1st grader to one of the few area camps that opened in summer 2020. It brought our child back to life. We sent our other child back to daycare when it re-opened. All activities were masked, and, yes, it felt scary, but, the benefits of the return of some semblance of normalcy were immediately obvious and apparent.

It makes me so angry that so much of this was contorted to be about political leanings, when it was a public health crisis. People refused to consider various choices/options/responses as anything other than a political statement, and clearly, still here on this board, people are using broad stroke categories to try and paint and pin others into corners carte blanche. Sad state we are in.

Anonymous wrote:I look forward to the debates where Miranda can go on the record to say how she feels about learning loss and who it affects, trans rights, "CRT", SROs, banning books and the like.

I don't want to vote for that kid Antonio, but he may be the one based on her answers instead of people here speaking for her.

This is idiotic. Why does he get the benefit of the doubt? What are his informed opinions and experience with the issues you outlined? You just make baseless assumptions. So pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are still having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that schools WERE closed for too long with disastrous results. That’s not even a controversial opinion at this point.

You’re blinded by hindsight.

It was reasonable to wait until teachers had vaccines.

Bullying others was not reasonable.

Except that many red states had schools that were open before vaccines, and did just fine. Plus all the local privates. It was not reasonable. It was a disaster, still is, and will take years or possibly decades to recover from. (Thus all the focus on learning loss.)

Your true colors are showing.

I was skeptical when Florida, Georgia, etc. opened full time in person in fall 2020. It felt very risky. The thing is, nothing bad happened. We could have learned from that, but we didn't because politics.

This 100%. I'm purple all the way. I was nervous about sending kids to school with masks in fall 2020 in Aug/September. By October it was obvious it was fine. By January I was dying inside at what a normal, non-traumatizing school year my red state niece and nephew were having while my APS kid was sitting in her bedroom by herself all year. And even now, when the data clearly show what an unmitigated disaster that was, still so many people in Arlington defend it like it was no big deal, completely out of touch with the reality of most of the rest of the nation. APS was in the bottom 10% of all districts nationally in terms of days of in person school. We were objectively worse. And it was a a bad call.

People, this was not just happening in red states, especially as teachers were vaccinated. You're just reinforcing the connection between republicans and open schools. Many democrats supported open schools, including President Biden and Democratic Governors.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are still having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that schools WERE closed for too long with disastrous results. That’s not even a controversial opinion at this point.

You’re blinded by hindsight.

It was reasonable to wait until teachers had vaccines.

Bullying others was not reasonable.

Except that many red states had schools that were open before vaccines, and did just fine. Plus all the local privates. It was not reasonable. It was a disaster, still is, and will take years or possibly decades to recover from. (Thus all the focus on learning loss.)

Your true colors are showing.

I was skeptical when Florida, Georgia, etc. opened full time in person in fall 2020. It felt very risky. The thing is, nothing bad happened. We could have learned from that, but we didn't because politics.

This 100%. I'm purple all the way. I was nervous about sending kids to school with masks in fall 2020 in Aug/September. By October it was obvious it was fine. By January I was dying inside at what a normal, non-traumatizing school year my red state niece and nephew were having while my APS kid was sitting in her bedroom by herself all year. And even now, when the data clearly show what an unmitigated disaster that was, still so many people in Arlington defend it like it was no big deal, completely out of touch with the reality of most of the rest of the nation. APS was in the bottom 10% of all districts nationally in terms of days of in person school. We were objectively worse. And it was a a bad call.

I look forward to the debates where Miranda can go on the record to say how she feels about learning loss and who it affects, trans rights, "CRT", SROs, banning books and the like.

I don't want to vote for that kid Antonio, but he may be the one based on her answers instead of people here speaking for her.

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Anonymous wrote:NYT finds connections between the Open Schools parents and the parents' rights anti-LGBTQ set. This is why a lot of people are worried about the leader of the local Open Schools group being on the APS Board.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/upshot/school-curriculums-survey-lgbtq.html?fbclid=IwAR28go5nsGsmnYRmXr5OaTHgHdOIvoQK55vK-DaZmKIUhM9XWYiOFNCXuGw

You are really stretching. There is literally not even a hint of this in her personal statements or campaign materials, etc.

--someone who has actually engaged with her directly and personally and could not be less worried about this as a possibility

Of course she is too smart to put this kind of stuff in her campaign materials or to say it out loud. But she didn't run away from it either, and she embraced those in the group that she led. I was in APE for a little while. People have choices about who to associate with and their choices are telling. I left when I realized who else was in APE with me and that those views were welcomed. It made me very uncomfortable. Miranda, on the other hand, led the group.

So you're saying you want a group-think board that only listens to one type of person and sticks to the party line. Got it.

I don't want someone who listens to the hateful anti LGBTQ crowd. All viewpoints are not equal.

You definitely are the majority in Arlington. But then you can’t wonder why things are so poorly done in APS. I mean no one ever had any differing viewpoint and everyone says they are do everything perfectly. So I don’t understand why people like you even bother to get upset at anything in the schools? It doesn’t make sense - you got what you asked for and voted for 🤷‍♀️

Maybe you will rethink your position on group think after missing middle passes and a nice little condo building goes up a few houses down from you. I know there are older residents salivating at the prospect of this passing. Up until it passes they will say it’s a terrible thing, ruining the neighborhood, and so on. Week after it passes they will be looking for an agent to market their property to developers ….

So you are ... sticking up for the hateful anti LGBTQ crowd because you think we need their differing viewpoint? Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:NYT finds connections between the Open Schools parents and the parents' rights anti-LGBTQ set. This is why a lot of people are worried about the leader of the local Open Schools group being on the APS Board.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/07/upshot/school-curriculums-survey-lgbtq.html?fbclid=IwAR28go5nsGsmnYRmXr5OaTHgHdOIvoQK55vK-DaZmKIUhM9XWYiOFNCXuGw

You are really stretching. There is literally not even a hint of this in her personal statements or campaign materials, etc.

--someone who has actually engaged with her directly and personally and could not be less worried about this as a possibility

Of course she is too smart to put this kind of stuff in her campaign materials or to say it out loud. But she didn't run away from it either, and she embraced those in the group that she led. I was in APE for a little while. People have choices about who to associate with and their choices are telling. I left when I realized who else was in APE with me and that those views were welcomed. It made me very uncomfortable. Miranda, on the other hand, led the group.

So you're saying you want a group-think board that only listens to one type of person and sticks to the party line. Got it.

I don't want someone who listens to the hateful anti LGBTQ crowd. All viewpoints are not equal.

You definitely are the majority in Arlington. But then you can’t wonder why things are so poorly done in APS. I mean no one ever had any differing viewpoint and everyone says they are do everything perfectly. So I don’t understand why people like you even bother to get upset at anything in the schools? It doesn’t make sense - you got what you asked for and voted for 🤷‍♀️

Maybe you will rethink your position on group think after missing middle passes and a nice little condo building goes up a few houses down from you. I know there are older residents salivating at the prospect of this passing. Up until it passes they will say it’s a terrible thing, ruining the neighborhood, and so on. Week after it passes they will be looking for an agent to market their property to developers ….

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are still having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that schools WERE closed for too long with disastrous results. That’s not even a controversial opinion at this point.

You’re blinded by hindsight.

It was reasonable to wait until teachers had vaccines.

Bullying others was not reasonable.

Except that many red states had schools that were open before vaccines, and did just fine. Plus all the local privates. It was not reasonable. It was a disaster, still is, and will take years or possibly decades to recover from. (Thus all the focus on learning loss.)

Your true colors are showing.

I was skeptical when Florida, Georgia, etc. opened full time in person in fall 2020. It felt very risky. The thing is, nothing bad happened. We could have learned from that, but we didn't because politics.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are still having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that schools WERE closed for too long with disastrous results. That’s not even a controversial opinion at this point.

You’re blinded by hindsight.

It was reasonable to wait until teachers had vaccines.

Bullying others was not reasonable.

Yeah except you still did it anyway.

Which then led to you not being able to be reasonable but instead overcome with anxiety.

Thus leading to the disastrous results.

Now you have a chance to be a better person.

Acceptance and acknowledging your part is the first step.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are still having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that schools WERE closed for too long with disastrous results. That’s not even a controversial opinion at this point.

You’re blinded by hindsight.

It was reasonable to wait until teachers had vaccines.

Bullying others was not reasonable.

Except that many red states had schools that were open before vaccines, and did just fine. Plus all the local privates. It was not reasonable. It was a disaster, still is, and will take years or possibly decades to recover from. (Thus all the focus on learning loss.)

Your true colors are showing.