Anonymous wrote:BTW she knows very well what she is doing. She knows if she tells Moms for Liberty that they are White supremacists (notice she didn't do that), they will vigorously deny it, maybe even sue her. She tells that to "Muslims" and she knows they don't want to be allied with White supremacists because when people assume Muslims are linked to violent extremists, they get persecuted.

Anonymous wrote:BTW she knows very well what she is doing. She knows if she tells Moms for Liberty that they are White supremacists (notice she didn't do that), they will vigorously deny it, maybe even sue her. She tells that to "Muslims" and she knows they don't want to be allied with White supremacists because when people assume Muslims are linked to violent extremists, they get persecuted.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

Eh? White supremacists are people who support white supremacy. White supremacy is a belief supported by white supremacists. I honestly don't understand your point.

You need to educate yourself. Look up a list of White supremacist organizations in the United States. Nobody refers to Moms for Liberty as a White supremacist organization, not even the SPLC. Words matter. Learn what they mean.

DP. I'm not saying the so-called "Moms for Liberty" group is a white-supremacist or "Christian"-nationalist group. I'm saying white supremacists and/or so-called Christian nationalists believe the so-called "Moms for Liberty" group is white supremacists and/or so-called "Christian" nationalists.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

Eh? White supremacists are people who support white supremacy. White supremacy is a belief supported by white supremacists. I honestly don't understand your point.

You need to educate yourself. Look up a list of White supremacist organizations in the United States. Nobody refers to Moms for Liberty as a White supremacist organization, not even the SPLC. Words matter. Learn what they mean.

DP. I'm not saying the so-called "Moms for Liberty" group is a white-supremacist or "Christian"-nationalist group. I'm saying white supremacists and/or so-called Christian nationalists believe the so-called "Moms for Liberty" group is white supremacists and/or so-called "Christian" nationalists.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

Eh? White supremacists are people who support white supremacy. White supremacy is a belief supported by white supremacists. I honestly don't understand your point.

You need to educate yourself. Look up a list of White supremacist organizations in the United States. Nobody refers to Moms for Liberty as a White supremacist organization, not even the SPLC. Words matter. Learn what they mean.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

Eh? White supremacists are people who support white supremacy. White supremacy is a belief supported by white supremacists. I honestly don't understand your point.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

There is a difference between White supremacy and White supremacist (the term Mink used). You can deny it all you want. I think what she said was offensive and harmful to all Muslim Americans and a slap in the face to a community whose kids have been called "terrorists" since they were little.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Okay, then we can say "CAIR is making a mistake by aligning themselves with a hate group that upholds white supremacy."

But I also think you are splitting hairs too finely here. Just because a group is not themselves engaged in white supremacist violence, does not mean they are not white supremacist at the core.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Well said.

And the people on twitter going to the mattresses for her "nothing she said was wrong" are showing their true colors.

"This is a person I like, therefore I am going to ignore how problematic her comments were"

Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.

Anonymous wrote:I hate splitting hairs on this topic, but I think the distinction is an important one. Moms for Liberty is absolutely a hate group that upholds white supremacy. However, it's not a "White supremacist" group in the way most people understand that term - to refer to groups that explicitly and often violently uphold the notion that White people are superior to other groups. I think Mink was really stretching on this and unfortunately and unintentionally perpetuates a discourse about Muslims as violent terrorists that is really not helpful.