Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 12:09     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NL and Pride should both take pride in the fact that girls leave their programs and head to Capital. That would be a selling point if they were smart they would embrace it. If they want a high school program they should be very honest about the fact that it is a good back up if they want to continue playing. Now granted Pride is leaps and bounds ahead of NL for high school, I still think they both should do more embracing of the Capital pathway instead of trying to sell girls on staying there.


I know it depends on grad year, but BLC would be the better option if the goal is Capital right? 2027 obviously a very dominant team for BLC, maybe their gold standard.

How many players did Pride lose? They were always a solid team at 2027, played hard, you had to bring your A game against them.


If I could do it all over again, given the way things are now, I would go Stars. Capital obviously favors them and has a connection to the program. This is not to say that they don't also have a relationship with BLC and that they don't take girls from NL and Pride but when cuts were made from teams this year or if they needed additional players .... they always got them from Stars.


The relationship with BLC and capital is just as strong. Any strong players out of Stars, BLC and Pride will make capital on the same level. The only stars player who might have a slight advantage is one who is on the bubble, but I don't think even that had a major impact last year.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 11:34     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
How is the 2027 Pride Red team looking? We heard many left for other options. They were a good team previously before the exodus.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2023 12:02     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NL and Pride should both take pride in the fact that girls leave their programs and head to Capital. That would be a selling point if they were smart they would embrace it. If they want a high school program they should be very honest about the fact that it is a good back up if they want to continue playing. Now granted Pride is leaps and bounds ahead of NL for high school, I still think they both should do more embracing of the Capital pathway instead of trying to sell girls on staying there.


I know it depends on grad year, but BLC would be the better option if the goal is Capital right? 2027 obviously a very dominant team for BLC, maybe their gold standard.

How many players did Pride lose? They were always a solid team at 2027, played hard, you had to bring your A game against them.


If I could do it all over again, given the way things are now, I would go Stars. Capital obviously favors them and has a connection to the program. This is not to say that they don't also have a relationship with BLC and that they don't take girls from NL and Pride but when cuts were made from teams this year or if they needed additional players .... they always got them from Stars.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2023 10:50     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
5 or so Pride 27 Red girls went to Stars too - the ones that didn't make either Capital team. The 27R team had a world of potential but never really came together consistently. My daughter was on the team and couldn't wait to move on after 8th grade. It's a lot of smoke and mirrors and not much substance. Not sure the other local clubs are any better though....
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2023 10:40     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NL and Pride should both take pride in the fact that girls leave their programs and head to Capital. That would be a selling point if they were smart they would embrace it. If they want a high school program they should be very honest about the fact that it is a good back up if they want to continue playing. Now granted Pride is leaps and bounds ahead of NL for high school, I still think they both should do more embracing of the Capital pathway instead of trying to sell girls on staying there.


I know it depends on grad year, but BLC would be the better option if the goal is Capital right? 2027 obviously a very dominant team for BLC, maybe their gold standard.

How many players did Pride lose? They were always a solid team at 2027, played hard, you had to bring your A game against them.



Cannot speak to NL, but I believe the Pride director has now accepted that some girls will leave for Capital each year. There was no effort made to try to sell the 2027R team on staying with Pride for high school (apart from forbidding the players to miss Pride practice in order to attend Capital tryout clinics).

With regard to players lost, 5 girls from 2027R made Capital Blue and 2 girls made Capital Orange. But there were also 4 girls who were on 2027R through 7th grade (and switched to other clubs for 8th grade only) who made Capital (1 Blue and 3 Orange).

But Pride actually lost far more players than those that left for Capital. I believe there are only 2 players left on the top 2027 team who were on 2027R last year. It will be a completely new team.



Most of the NL 27 team departed as well. To Capital, Stars, MC...
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2023 09:11     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NL and Pride should both take pride in the fact that girls leave their programs and head to Capital. That would be a selling point if they were smart they would embrace it. If they want a high school program they should be very honest about the fact that it is a good back up if they want to continue playing. Now granted Pride is leaps and bounds ahead of NL for high school, I still think they both should do more embracing of the Capital pathway instead of trying to sell girls on staying there.


I know it depends on grad year, but BLC would be the better option if the goal is Capital right? 2027 obviously a very dominant team for BLC, maybe their gold standard.

How many players did Pride lose? They were always a solid team at 2027, played hard, you had to bring your A game against them.



Cannot speak to NL, but I believe the Pride director has now accepted that some girls will leave for Capital each year. There was no effort made to try to sell the 2027R team on staying with Pride for high school (apart from forbidding the players to miss Pride practice in order to attend Capital tryout clinics).

With regard to players lost, 5 girls from 2027R made Capital Blue and 2 girls made Capital Orange. But there were also 4 girls who were on 2027R through 7th grade (and switched to other clubs for 8th grade only) who made Capital (1 Blue and 3 Orange).

But Pride actually lost far more players than those that left for Capital. I believe there are only 2 players left on the top 2027 team who were on 2027R last year. It will be a completely new team.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2023 08:55     Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Why anyone who is even slightly serious about lacrosse is still talking about NL girls high school teams is beyond me. I would love to see a roster for 2027, if there even is one. Read carefully - Next Level has NEVER put a player into college. They abandoned their 2023's after spring because several girls walked away and they left a whole group of girls still looking for teams. They have lost a ton of their 25's and 26's to other clubs at tryouts this year. There is a few 26's from BLC who think they will get recruited from NL but haven't yet grasped that college coaches don't even have NL teams on their radar. Best comparison is that NL is like rec for High school. They don't get invited to the big recruiting tournaments. By the time the summer rolls around they will have a combo HS team that plays in low level tourneys. Dying a slow death over there and being kept alive by $$ from the boys program.


You are right up to your last sentence. Everyone at NL knows the girls program subsidizes the boys program. Boys get all the money, better coaching, better uniforms, videos of games, etc. Girls get treated like crap.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2023 08:49     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:NL and Pride should both take pride in the fact that girls leave their programs and head to Capital. That would be a selling point if they were smart they would embrace it. If they want a high school program they should be very honest about the fact that it is a good back up if they want to continue playing. Now granted Pride is leaps and bounds ahead of NL for high school, I still think they both should do more embracing of the Capital pathway instead of trying to sell girls on staying there.


I know it depends on grad year, but BLC would be the better option if the goal is Capital right? 2027 obviously a very dominant team for BLC, maybe their gold standard.

How many players did Pride lose? They were always a solid team at 2027, played hard, you had to bring your A game against them.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2023 08:33     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
NL and Pride should both take pride in the fact that girls leave their programs and head to Capital. That would be a selling point if they were smart they would embrace it. If they want a high school program they should be very honest about the fact that it is a good back up if they want to continue playing. Now granted Pride is leaps and bounds ahead of NL for high school, I still think they both should do more embracing of the Capital pathway instead of trying to sell girls on staying there.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2023 14:44     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Former NL players new to DD team this year said coaches attendance were spotty and they nearly always prioritized their youth teams over high school. And they had tournaments this past summer where they had to combine 25s and 26s because they couldn't field full teams.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2023 13:57     Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Why anyone who is even slightly serious about lacrosse is still talking about NL girls high school teams is beyond me. I would love to see a roster for 2027, if there even is one. Read carefully - Next Level has NEVER put a player into college. They abandoned their 2023's after spring because several girls walked away and they left a whole group of girls still looking for teams. They have lost a ton of their 25's and 26's to other clubs at tryouts this year. There is a few 26's from BLC who think they will get recruited from NL but haven't yet grasped that college coaches don't even have NL teams on their radar. Best comparison is that NL is like rec for High school. They don't get invited to the big recruiting tournaments. By the time the summer rolls around they will have a combo HS team that plays in low level tourneys. Dying a slow death over there and being kept alive by $$ from the boys program.



Thank you for the thoughtful, civil response.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2023 13:54     Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Why anyone who is even slightly serious about lacrosse is still talking about NL girls high school teams is beyond me. I would love to see a roster for 2027, if there even is one. Read carefully - Next Level has NEVER put a player into college. They abandoned their 2023's after spring because several girls walked away and they left a whole group of girls still looking for teams. They have lost a ton of their 25's and 26's to other clubs at tryouts this year. There is a few 26's from BLC who think they will get recruited from NL but haven't yet grasped that college coaches don't even have NL teams on their radar. Best comparison is that NL is like rec for High school. They don't get invited to the big recruiting tournaments. By the time the summer rolls around they will have a combo HS team that plays in low level tourneys. Dying a slow death over there and being kept alive by $$ from the boys program.


It was me who was asking about it, and honestly it was just because I am new to this 'club' lacrosse and just wanted to get a bit of information. I definitely don't care about recruiting and college play at this point; my daughter just wants to play. Appreciate your point of view.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2023 10:55     Subject: Re:2027 Girls Lacrosse
Why anyone who is even slightly serious about lacrosse is still talking about NL girls high school teams is beyond me. I would love to see a roster for 2027, if there even is one. Read carefully - Next Level has NEVER put a player into college. They abandoned their 2023's after spring because several girls walked away and they left a whole group of girls still looking for teams. They have lost a ton of their 25's and 26's to other clubs at tryouts this year. There is a few 26's from BLC who think they will get recruited from NL but haven't yet grasped that college coaches don't even have NL teams on their radar. Best comparison is that NL is like rec for High school. They don't get invited to the big recruiting tournaments. By the time the summer rolls around they will have a combo HS team that plays in low level tourneys. Dying a slow death over there and being kept alive by $$ from the boys program.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2023 06:50     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New to this group. Curious where Next Level is ranked overall in the DMV. Thanks!
ranking does not matter, but at this age NL is irrelevant because they don’t produce impact players and they don’t have a college recruiting shop.


Rankings matter in terms of trying to judge teams against their peers. The higher ranked teams typically play in the better tournaments and brackets in those tournaments which then can affect recruiting, which is the point.

NL 2027 finished last year ranked #74.

Anonymous
Post 09/08/2023 19:15     Subject: 2027 Girls Lacrosse
Anonymous wrote:Does NL go into high school for girls?


Yes. But they are not very good. 27s were a decent team in 6th and 7th then starting in 8th their strongest started to leave and even more left now for high school. I know a few are on either Capital Blue/Orange.