Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.
Oh so this is scary and not the attempt of a coup, the fake electors and all the new laws in some states to overturn the will of the people by legislators?
That’s not why the FBI searched his house. It was for alleged violations of the “Presidential Records Act.” Election disputes are common throughout our history, but a former president (let alone one who can run for another term) has NEVER been charged in our history. Do you doubt that the next republican would start charging democrats? Anyone can be charged with something. I wonder how many sitting democratic senators have ever violated federal records retention laws?
Do you understand that there needs to be clear evidence of crimes to get a federal search warrant on anyone, particularly a former President who’s constantly blathering about running again?
Yes, and do you understand that we have thousands of laws in this country and that prosecutors could find a violation to prosecute anyone they want? Literally anyone. Do you really think that the *reason* the FBI is going after him is solely because they are worried about the “Presidential Records Act”?
This is really, really dangerous stuff.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably a mistake
Ironically, the existence of the SCIF at the president’s private club in Palm Beach was first revealed in a White House press briefing on February 14, 2017, to rebut criticism Trump himself had put sensitive discussions at risk.
Probably the scif at mara Lago. Maybe someone left docs there
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-maralago-idUSKBN15T2Y2
People do not forget and leave classified materials behind. They are controlled.
Trump did say “vault” which is literally what a SCIF is. Also if you have a SCIF, there is a SCIF manager because a SCIF is really a management system of a vault room that requires logs, cameras, and etc. You also can just store classified materials like a stack of newspapers. There’s a ton of regulations on storage.
“Another person familiar with the search said agents began going through a storage unit, where items like beach chairs and umbrellas are kept, in the basement.”
Not a vault. Not a SCIF.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably a mistake
Ironically, the existence of the SCIF at the president’s private club in Palm Beach was first revealed in a White House press briefing on February 14, 2017, to rebut criticism Trump himself had put sensitive discussions at risk.
Probably the scif at mara Lago. Maybe someone left docs there
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-maralago-idUSKBN15T2Y2
People do not forget and leave classified materials behind. They are controlled.
Trump did say “vault” which is literally what a SCIF is. Also if you have a SCIF, there is a SCIF manager because a SCIF is really a management system of a vault room that requires logs, cameras, and etc. You also can just store classified materials like a stack of newspapers. There’s a ton of regulations on storage.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course i expect nothing more from MAGA at this point. They are insurrectionists who want to end American democracy.
But my. God.
How can the slightly more sane of you republicans look at yourselves and say - yup - when the FBI was investigating Hillary’s email, that was correct to do and in fact we are sure she should be locked up for her ‘crimes’.
But a few years later, AFTER 4 YEARS OF A TRUMP PRESIDENCY AND TRUMP APPOINTING THE HEAD OF FBI WHO CONTINUES TO THIS DAY, the FBI is now a corrupt wing of the Democratic Party?
Get ahold of yourselves
Oh, FFS. Did the FBI do a pre-dawn raid to search for those emails that Hillary wiped from her server? For that matter, did they do a pre-dawn, long guns drawn raid to even find the server?
Yes - there are still way too many agents at the FBI who are corrupt to the core. Wray has done nothing to rein in the rogue agents.
This raid was so unwarranted and will come back to bite the Dems in the butt. Mark my words.
Wooah, wooah wooah moron. So your position is that there was no search warrant at all? That a bunch of rogue FBI agents just took it upon themselves to do this.
You are beyond being helped.
I think he's saying a corrupt head of the FBI drew up a warrant to be signed by a corrupt judge. Just like they did with the FISAs
If the warrant is so ridiculous why hasn’t Trump shared it? He’s the only one who can do so.
Just a guess - cause he’s guilty as sin?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course i expect nothing more from MAGA at this point. They are insurrectionists who want to end American democracy.
But my. God.
How can the slightly more sane of you republicans look at yourselves and say - yup - when the FBI was investigating Hillary’s email, that was correct to do and in fact we are sure she should be locked up for her ‘crimes’.
But a few years later, AFTER 4 YEARS OF A TRUMP PRESIDENCY AND TRUMP APPOINTING THE HEAD OF FBI WHO CONTINUES TO THIS DAY, the FBI is now a corrupt wing of the Democratic Party?
Get ahold of yourselves
Oh, FFS. Did the FBI do a pre-dawn raid to search for those emails that Hillary wiped from her server? For that matter, did they do a pre-dawn, long guns drawn raid to even find the server?
Yes - there are still way too many agents at the FBI who are corrupt to the core. Wray has done nothing to rein in the rogue agents.
This raid was so unwarranted and will come back to bite the Dems in the butt. Mark my words.
Wooah, wooah wooah moron. So your position is that there was no search warrant at all? That a bunch of rogue FBI agents just took it upon themselves to do this.
You are beyond being helped.
I think he's saying a corrupt head of the FBI drew up a warrant to be signed by a corrupt judge. Just like they did with the FISAs
If the warrant is so ridiculous why hasn’t Trump shared it? He’s the only one who can do so.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course i expect nothing more from MAGA at this point. They are insurrectionists who want to end American democracy.
But my. God.
How can the slightly more sane of you republicans look at yourselves and say - yup - when the FBI was investigating Hillary’s email, that was correct to do and in fact we are sure she should be locked up for her ‘crimes’.
But a few years later, AFTER 4 YEARS OF A TRUMP PRESIDENCY AND TRUMP APPOINTING THE HEAD OF FBI WHO CONTINUES TO THIS DAY, the FBI is now a corrupt wing of the Democratic Party?
Get ahold of yourselves
Oh, FFS. Did the FBI do a pre-dawn raid to search for those emails that Hillary wiped from her server? For that matter, did they do a pre-dawn, long guns drawn raid to even find the server?
Yes - there are still way too many agents at the FBI who are corrupt to the core. Wray has done nothing to rein in the rogue agents.
This raid was so unwarranted and will come back to bite the Dems in the butt. Mark my words.
Wooah, wooah wooah moron. So your position is that there was no search warrant at all? That a bunch of rogue FBI agents just took it upon themselves to do this.
You are beyond being helped.
I think he's saying a corrupt head of the FBI drew up a warrant to be signed by a corrupt judge. Just like they did with the FISAs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Perry’s cell phone was just confiscated today, a day after he filed articles of impeachment against Garland.
Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania? He introduced Trump to Jeffrey Clark and is intimately involved in at least the January 6-related investigation of DOJ and probably the fake electors section of it, too. If you’re implying that he sent out a dumb tweet about the Attorney General and immediately the feds grabbed the phone of a sitting Congressman as a result without proper procedures that would have taken weeks if not months, you can show yourself out.
Not a tweet. Filed articles of impeachment against the head of the DOJ, who then turned the FBI on him. I'm sure proper procedures were followed, just like with the FISAs.
My favorite like today was the press secretary stating "Biden found out about the raid at the same time the American people did". Where have we heard that before? Hmm
Again, please leave. There is no possible way you could get a search warrant written, sworn to, filed and approved and that short an amount of time.
It's more likely they found something in those boxes they just seized at Mar-a-Lago that gave them probable cause to seize Perry's phone.
This is hysterical.
If the raid on Maralogo was about classified records, why would they find something to cause them to seize Perry's phone?
We need to stop talking about Perry’s phone here, it has nothing to do with this. It has to do with Jeffrey Clark and John Eastman and the plot to overturn the election.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Perry’s cell phone was just confiscated today, a day after he filed articles of impeachment against Garland.
Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania? He introduced Trump to Jeffrey Clark and is intimately involved in at least the January 6-related investigation of DOJ and probably the fake electors section of it, too. If you’re implying that he sent out a dumb tweet about the Attorney General and immediately the feds grabbed the phone of a sitting Congressman as a result without proper procedures that would have taken weeks if not months, you can show yourself out.
Not a tweet. Filed articles of impeachment against the head of the DOJ, who then turned the FBI on him. I'm sure proper procedures were followed, just like with the FISAs.
My favorite like today was the press secretary stating "Biden found out about the raid at the same time the American people did". Where have we heard that before? Hmm
Again, please leave. There is no possible way you could get a search warrant written, sworn to, filed and approved and that short an amount of time.
It's more likely they found something in those boxes they just seized at Mar-a-Lago that gave them probable cause to seize Perry's phone.