Anonymous
Post 06/12/2013 10:52     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:For those of you who think that lacrosse is your child's ticket to a great collegiate education, check out today's Wash Post and see where the All Mets are going next year. Some of the colleges may be good lacrosse schools (Towson, Loyola etc), but hardly even academically average. The days of area schools sending their best high school players to Ivies and ACC are over. Recruiting has expanded and the competition is fierce. So please, chill out and let your kid play sports for fun. Stop living through them and for chrissakes don't make them feel this is the only way to advance to the next level.



Landon LAX has kids headed to Cornell, Penn (2), UVA and Colgate - though these boys probably would have been admitted on academics alone.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2013 06:15     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The TWO boys drove to school and parked the car for the day. A non-lethal "BB gun" rifle replica was left in the back seat. One boy went to class while the other boy went into the woods. Having never shot a gun. he tried it, put the gun back in the car and went to class. A mom saw the "shooter" in the woods with a 'sniper rifle', and made a 911 call the police. NCS, Sidwell and St. Albans were locked down within minutes. The BB gun was found in the back seat of the car and the car was traced to the boys. The boys were taken out of class in cuffs and the incident was widely reported with dramatic video on the web.

STA acted quickly. The boys were barred from school for the remaining few weeks of the year (the lacrosse season had already ended) but allowed to graduate. Both boys faced DC gun charges. If anything, STA's quick action was deemed too harsh.


STA also put a specific prohibition against these guns in the student guidelines (page 6):

http://www.stalbansschool.org/document.doc?id=493


Why would Sidwell Friends be locked down because of an incident on the NCS/STA campus?


This was clearly a case of profiling based on the middle eastern ethnicity of the two boys


I think it was, instead, a "post-Columbine/Virginia Tech" reaction. Several passerby saw some young men getting out of a car with what appeared to be a high-powered rifle (instead, an AirSoft BB gun designed to look like a high-powered rifle), and called the police, which in turn triggered a lockdown. Most of the mass shooting episodes in this country are young white males and I believe the same reaction -- calls to the police resulting in a lockdown -- would have happened without regard to race/ethnicity.[/quote


The lacrosse stars have to be careful to confine their unacceptable acts to locations where people know who they are. You won't get the laxer privileged if you aren't recognized. I understand that these kids were permitted to graduate from STA.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 12:31     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The TWO boys drove to school and parked the car for the day. A non-lethal "BB gun" rifle replica was left in the back seat. One boy went to class while the other boy went into the woods. Having never shot a gun. he tried it, put the gun back in the car and went to class. A mom saw the "shooter" in the woods with a 'sniper rifle', and made a 911 call the police. NCS, Sidwell and St. Albans were locked down within minutes. The BB gun was found in the back seat of the car and the car was traced to the boys. The boys were taken out of class in cuffs and the incident was widely reported with dramatic video on the web.

STA acted quickly. The boys were barred from school for the remaining few weeks of the year (the lacrosse season had already ended) but allowed to graduate. Both boys faced DC gun charges. If anything, STA's quick action was deemed too harsh.


STA also put a specific prohibition against these guns in the student guidelines (page 6):

http://www.stalbansschool.org/document.doc?id=493


Why would Sidwell Friends be locked down because of an incident on the NCS/STA campus?


This was clearly a case of profiling based on the middle eastern ethnicity of the two boys


I think it was, instead, a "post-Columbine/Virginia Tech" reaction. Several passerby saw some young men getting out of a car with what appeared to be a high-powered rifle (instead, an AirSoft BB gun designed to look like a high-powered rifle), and called the police, which in turn triggered a lockdown. Most of the mass shooting episodes in this country are young white males and I believe the same reaction -- calls to the police resulting in a lockdown -- would have happened without regard to race/ethnicity.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 09:23     Subject: lax culture from an insider
For those of you who think that lacrosse is your child's ticket to a great collegiate education, check out today's Wash Post and see where the All Mets are going next year. Some of the colleges may be good lacrosse schools (Towson, Loyola etc), but hardly even academically average. The days of area schools sending their best high school players to Ivies and ACC are over. Recruiting has expanded and the competition is fierce. So please, chill out and let your kid play sports for fun. Stop living through them and for chrissakes don't make them feel this is the only way to advance to the next level.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2013 07:30     Subject: lax culture from an insider
I am aware of this. But the question was, would local lax players be interested in being the foundation for a BCS level lacrosse program, if one (or 3) were created. Men's or Women's. Most of these schools already have clubs and play the other schools on a routine basis.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2013 06:44     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:re: #1

The presumption is some of these schools would start programs. Would good LAX players be interested in the challenge of being charter D1 athletes at these schools to get them competitive quickly?

Hence the question. I know they don't have programs now.


When Michigan became a Division 1 lacrosse program 2 years ago, it was the first BCS school in 31 years to start a D1 lacrosse program. 31 years.

Title IX is certainly a factor (and it has nothing to do with the school playing football, as someone later noted), but there are other ones as well. A big reason why the B10 brought in Johns Hopkins as a lacrosse-only member is because bringing in Rutgers and Maryland only gets the B10 (who already have Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State) to five. You need six schools in a league to have an automatic qualifier, so rather than wait for MSU or someone else to start a program, it made a lot more sense to woo Johns Hopkins.

In other words, you cannot assume a school like Wisconsin is going to start a D1 lacrosse program any time soon.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2013 21:06     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The TWO boys drove to school and parked the car for the day. A non-lethal "BB gun" rifle replica was left in the back seat. One boy went to class while the other boy went into the woods. Having never shot a gun. he tried it, put the gun back in the car and went to class. A mom saw the "shooter" in the woods with a 'sniper rifle', and made a 911 call the police. NCS, Sidwell and St. Albans were locked down within minutes. The BB gun was found in the back seat of the car and the car was traced to the boys. The boys were taken out of class in cuffs and the incident was widely reported with dramatic video on the web.

STA acted quickly. The boys were barred from school for the remaining few weeks of the year (the lacrosse season had already ended) but allowed to graduate. Both boys faced DC gun charges. If anything, STA's quick action was deemed too harsh.


STA also put a specific prohibition against these guns in the student guidelines (page 6):

http://www.stalbansschool.org/document.doc?id=493


Why would Sidwell Friends be locked down because of an incident on the NCS/STA campus?


This was clearly a case of profiling based on the middle eastern ethnicity of the two boys
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2013 20:58     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The TWO boys drove to school and parked the car for the day. A non-lethal "BB gun" rifle replica was left in the back seat. One boy went to class while the other boy went into the woods. Having never shot a gun. he tried it, put the gun back in the car and went to class. A mom saw the "shooter" in the woods with a 'sniper rifle', and made a 911 call the police. NCS, Sidwell and St. Albans were locked down within minutes. The BB gun was found in the back seat of the car and the car was traced to the boys. The boys were taken out of class in cuffs and the incident was widely reported with dramatic video on the web.

STA acted quickly. The boys were barred from school for the remaining few weeks of the year (the lacrosse season had already ended) but allowed to graduate. Both boys faced DC gun charges. If anything, STA's quick action was deemed too harsh.


STA also put a specific prohibition against these guns in the student guidelines (page 6):

http://www.stalbansschool.org/document.doc?id=493


Why would Sidwell Friends be locked down because of an incident on the NCS/STA campus?


Because the President's daughters are on the Sidwell campus.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2013 06:46     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The TWO boys drove to school and parked the car for the day. A non-lethal "BB gun" rifle replica was left in the back seat. One boy went to class while the other boy went into the woods. Having never shot a gun. he tried it, put the gun back in the car and went to class. A mom saw the "shooter" in the woods with a 'sniper rifle', and made a 911 call the police. NCS, Sidwell and St. Albans were locked down within minutes. The BB gun was found in the back seat of the car and the car was traced to the boys. The boys were taken out of class in cuffs and the incident was widely reported with dramatic video on the web.

STA acted quickly. The boys were barred from school for the remaining few weeks of the year (the lacrosse season had already ended) but allowed to graduate. Both boys faced DC gun charges. If anything, STA's quick action was deemed too harsh.


STA also put a specific prohibition against these guns in the student guidelines (page 6):

http://www.stalbansschool.org/document.doc?id=493


Why would Sidwell Friends be locked down because of an incident on the NCS/STA campus?
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2013 12:07     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:re: #1

The presumption is some of these schools would start programs. Would good LAX players be interested in the challenge of being charter D1 athletes at these schools to get them competitive quickly?

Hence the question. I know they don't have programs now.


Title IX is an issue (not insurmountable) for schools with big football programs
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2013 11:33     Subject: lax culture from an insider
re: #1

The presumption is some of these schools would start programs. Would good LAX players be interested in the challenge of being charter D1 athletes at these schools to get them competitive quickly?

Hence the question. I know they don't have programs now.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2013 07:48     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:There was an announcement that Johns Hopkins is joining the Big10 and they will create a new LAX league. Question....would top talent consider going to non-traditional LAX schools like Northwestern, Wisconsin or Michigan?

I think there might be enough interest in these schools academically and socially to make them relatively competitive early on. Thoughts?


1. Neither NW nor Wisconsin has a NCAA lacrosse program (though NW does have one for women which is a powerhouse)

2. Lots of top recruits are going to "non-traditional" lacrosse programs. Michigan had the best club program in the country, and converted to D1 last year. They are getting good recruits.

3. Lots of great lacrosse kids are going to D1, D2 and D3 schools. It's not like the best players are only going to one of, say, five schools.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2013 06:57     Subject: lax culture from an insider
There was an announcement that Johns Hopkins is joining the Big10 and they will create a new LAX league. Question....would top talent consider going to non-traditional LAX schools like Northwestern, Wisconsin or Michigan?

I think there might be enough interest in these schools academically and socially to make them relatively competitive early on. Thoughts?
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2013 06:28     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:BB gun


BB guns or air soft guns are almost always non-lethal , but they are designed to look like real rifles or hand guns. People not familiar with guns are just as easily terrorized by a "replica" as they are by the real thing:

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_22242716/oakland-student-bb-gun-prompts-school-lockdown

Young men of middle eastern ethnicity with rifles (real or replica) are especially vulnerable to profiling in places like NW DC.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2013 06:14     Subject: lax culture from an insider
Anonymous wrote:The TWO boys drove to school and parked the car for the day. A non-lethal "BB gun" rifle replica was left in the back seat. One boy went to class while the other boy went into the woods. Having never shot a gun. he tried it, put the gun back in the car and went to class. A mom saw the "shooter" in the woods with a 'sniper rifle', and made a 911 call the police. NCS, Sidwell and St. Albans were locked down within minutes. The BB gun was found in the back seat of the car and the car was traced to the boys. The boys were taken out of class in cuffs and the incident was widely reported with dramatic video on the web.

STA acted quickly. The boys were barred from school for the remaining few weeks of the year (the lacrosse season had already ended) but allowed to graduate. Both boys faced DC gun charges. If anything, STA's quick action was deemed too harsh.


STA also put a specific prohibition against these guns in the student guidelines (page 6):

http://www.stalbansschool.org/document.doc?id=493