Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 14:39     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

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Anonymous wrote:What happened is not "gerrymandering"

The people who love closest to Wisconsin Avenue will now be part of an ANC that is focused on Wisconsin Avenue. That is the opposite of gerrymadering.

It never made sense that an ANC Commissioenr who lives across the street from the Cathedral had oversight of Connecticut Avenue.

The change fixes that to a degree. Now, the people who live closest to each corridor will have a say in what happens on those corridors. This is a good thing.


Yes, but a person who lives directly across 34th Street from John Eaton and sends children there now has no say in what happens at John Eaton (or NCRC or Cleveland Park Club). Ditto for someone on the other side of 34th wrt Macomb Playground (or the Cathedral Schools or the Hearst pool). A neighborhood is more than its commercial boundaries.


Don’t worry. Cleveland Park Smart Growth and it’s partner Ward 3 Vision (Redistricting Tsar Ward is on the boards of both) will next turn their attention to making 34th Street a commercial, denser mixed-use corridor.


Good. I wish there was at least a corner store nearby. Not sure why people get a veto on what their neighbor does with their own property. If they want to build a few apartments, why shouldn't they? It is their land.


Have you tried walking a few blocks to Wisconsin or Connecticut? There already are tons of stores nearby.

It’s crazy how lazy this person is that they seem incapable of walking 2 blocks. It’s also clear that they don’t live nearby or else they would understand the public health nuisance issue first hand. There is already a massive rat problem and attracting more rats closer to people homes just so one person doesn’t have to walk 2 blocks is bonkers.

Also, DC is “over stored”. If your desired goal is to keep the Wisconsin corridor vibrant, adding retail on 34th would be anathema.


There’s likely to be a retail shake out once Wegmans opens. For example, Wegmans’ retail offerings are so extensive that they can outcompete Giant on quality and even price for some items. Wegmans and City Ridge are much better designed than Cathedral Commons a few blocks to the south, and people will want to spend time at City Ridge. Giant will struggle and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s closed at that location in 5 years. It would be a shame if it became a Dollar General or Planet Fitness, but it’s hard to see many customers sticking with Giant when Wegmans is so close by.


Man, they should've built 10 stories of apartments on top of the Giant when they had the chance. I wonder why they didn't?

Luckily, Wegmans/City Ridge didn't make that mistake and didn't care about the complaints of nearby homeowners.


It was a by-right project. The neighbors had no power to stop it.


Thank god. We should increase the zoning on wisconsin ave, so we get more of these projects.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 14:38     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened is not "gerrymandering"

The people who love closest to Wisconsin Avenue will now be part of an ANC that is focused on Wisconsin Avenue. That is the opposite of gerrymadering.

It never made sense that an ANC Commissioenr who lives across the street from the Cathedral had oversight of Connecticut Avenue.

The change fixes that to a degree. Now, the people who live closest to each corridor will have a say in what happens on those corridors. This is a good thing.


Yes, but a person who lives directly across 34th Street from John Eaton and sends children there now has no say in what happens at John Eaton (or NCRC or Cleveland Park Club). Ditto for someone on the other side of 34th wrt Macomb Playground (or the Cathedral Schools or the Hearst pool). A neighborhood is more than its commercial boundaries.


Don’t worry. Cleveland Park Smart Growth and it’s partner Ward 3 Vision (Redistricting Tsar Ward is on the boards of both) will next turn their attention to making 34th Street a commercial, denser mixed-use corridor.


Good. I wish there was at least a corner store nearby. Not sure why people get a veto on what their neighbor does with their own property. If they want to build a few apartments, why shouldn't they? It is their land.


Have you tried walking a few blocks to Wisconsin or Connecticut? There already are tons of stores nearby.

It’s crazy how lazy this person is that they seem incapable of walking 2 blocks. It’s also clear that they don’t live nearby or else they would understand the public health nuisance issue first hand. There is already a massive rat problem and attracting more rats closer to people homes just so one person doesn’t have to walk 2 blocks is bonkers.

Also, DC is “over stored”. If your desired goal is to keep the Wisconsin corridor vibrant, adding retail on 34th would be anathema.


Over-stored? DC has noticeably fewer retail establishments than any other city I've lived in. There are a few tightly defined strips that have retail, and that's it. I assume it's a legacy of the plan for the city/zoning.


It's amazing how un-worldly the NIMBY types are. Some of them seem like they've never left their own block.

You were saying?



The Smart Growth lobby still asserts that Ward 3 is some kind of food desert.


The palisades are.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 12:41     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened is not "gerrymandering"

The people who love closest to Wisconsin Avenue will now be part of an ANC that is focused on Wisconsin Avenue. That is the opposite of gerrymadering.

It never made sense that an ANC Commissioenr who lives across the street from the Cathedral had oversight of Connecticut Avenue.

The change fixes that to a degree. Now, the people who live closest to each corridor will have a say in what happens on those corridors. This is a good thing.


Yes, but a person who lives directly across 34th Street from John Eaton and sends children there now has no say in what happens at John Eaton (or NCRC or Cleveland Park Club). Ditto for someone on the other side of 34th wrt Macomb Playground (or the Cathedral Schools or the Hearst pool). A neighborhood is more than its commercial boundaries.


Don’t worry. Cleveland Park Smart Growth and it’s partner Ward 3 Vision (Redistricting Tsar Ward is on the boards of both) will next turn their attention to making 34th Street a commercial, denser mixed-use corridor.


Good. I wish there was at least a corner store nearby. Not sure why people get a veto on what their neighbor does with their own property. If they want to build a few apartments, why shouldn't they? It is their land.


Have you tried walking a few blocks to Wisconsin or Connecticut? There already are tons of stores nearby.

It’s crazy how lazy this person is that they seem incapable of walking 2 blocks. It’s also clear that they don’t live nearby or else they would understand the public health nuisance issue first hand. There is already a massive rat problem and attracting more rats closer to people homes just so one person doesn’t have to walk 2 blocks is bonkers.

Also, DC is “over stored”. If your desired goal is to keep the Wisconsin corridor vibrant, adding retail on 34th would be anathema.


There’s likely to be a retail shake out once Wegmans opens. For example, Wegmans’ retail offerings are so extensive that they can outcompete Giant on quality and even price for some items. Wegmans and City Ridge are much better designed than Cathedral Commons a few blocks to the south, and people will want to spend time at City Ridge. Giant will struggle and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s closed at that location in 5 years. It would be a shame if it became a Dollar General or Planet Fitness, but it’s hard to see many customers sticking with Giant when Wegmans is so close by.


Man, they should've built 10 stories of apartments on top of the Giant when they had the chance. I wonder why they didn't?

Luckily, Wegmans/City Ridge didn't make that mistake and didn't care about the complaints of nearby homeowners.


Bozzuto and Giant should have hired real architects to design their project, the way City Ridge did.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 10:23     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

Therapy is good. There is no shame in seeking help if you need it.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 09:24     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

One other thing, the language you used and the imagery it revealed goes on in your head are despicable. Maybe okay coy next time.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 09:11     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

“a mile”
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 09:10     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

Nope. Never said that. How are people ever a punishment? What kind of eugenic theories are you into? That’s absurd. I support any solution for that space, including apartments and the memory ward.

But losing the grocery store and the slow decline in the property values is not an unexpected outcome of the opposition to “apartment dwellers”. Things said at the time were wile and some of the rhetoric is repeating with the schools. So you reap what you sow

For future reference, you can’t reframe something someone said to invite yourself to express fake outrage. Too much of that 2016-2020 so everyone sees it a Mike away

What are you arguing anyway? Facts are: opposed apartments due to density, got similar density with more noise and no grocery store. Good for the community? Not so much.

Also. Planes. Fact.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 08:56     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

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Anonymous wrote:I think the Palisades nimbys did Safeway a favor. That neighborhood is in decline. They left at the right time.

Having said that I hope the neighbors enjoy the ambulances that will soon join the planes at that location with the planned dementia ward

And all because they didn’t want apartment-dwellers

Did a disabled person from Palisades molest you as a child or something? Because I’m not sure why you have the animus towards both that community and feel that having disabled people in proximity is negative burden. Have you considered therapy?


Are you the nutter calling people crazy all over? My opinion, and it’s widely shared.

You got what you deserved. If you want to sound more intelligent, stop using ableist language.

I’m not opposed to the memory ward or the two new schools. But would not buy there again

You believe that people with dementia are a fitting punishment for a community that opposed apartments? You believe that this is a normal belief that is widely shared and not crazy at all?
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 08:34     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

To be clear, because of the horrendous flight path and lack of infrastructure
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 08:32     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the Palisades nimbys did Safeway a favor. That neighborhood is in decline. They left at the right time.

Having said that I hope the neighbors enjoy the ambulances that will soon join the planes at that location with the planned dementia ward

And all because they didn’t want apartment-dwellers

Did a disabled person from Palisades molest you as a child or something? Because I’m not sure why you have the animus towards both that community and feel that having disabled people in proximity is negative burden. Have you considered therapy?


Are you the nutter calling people crazy all over? My opinion, and it’s widely shared.

You got what you deserved. If you want to sound more intelligent, stop using ableist language.

I’m not opposed to the memory ward or the two new schools. But would not buy there again
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 08:17     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

Anonymous wrote:I think the Palisades nimbys did Safeway a favor. That neighborhood is in decline. They left at the right time.

Having said that I hope the neighbors enjoy the ambulances that will soon join the planes at that location with the planned dementia ward

And all because they didn’t want apartment-dwellers

Did a disabled person from Palisades molest you as a child or something? Because I’m not sure why you have the animus towards both that community and feel that having disabled people in proximity is negative burden. Have you considered therapy?
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 08:11     Subject: Re:Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

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Anonymous wrote:The real opportunity is the Safeway in Georgetown/Glover Park. There are so many better and cheaper grocery stores very nearby, and that location would be perfect for a large apartment building overlooking the park.

Maybe you should talk to Safeway first before you commandeer their property for your war on NIMBYs. They might have something to say about it.


I’m confident Safeway knows how to make the most money. They tried to redevelop the Palisades location with housing before they were stopped. That Glover Park strip has seen plenty of development already. If Safeway wants to redevelop it, no one will stop them.

Lol. LOL. L-O-L. Hahahahaha.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 08:11     Subject: Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

I think the Palisades nimbys did Safeway a favor. That neighborhood is in decline. They left at the right time.

Having said that I hope the neighbors enjoy the ambulances that will soon join the planes at that location with the planned dementia ward

And all because they didn’t want apartment-dwellers
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 08:06     Subject: Re:Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The real opportunity is the Safeway in Georgetown/Glover Park. There are so many better and cheaper grocery stores very nearby, and that location would be perfect for a large apartment building overlooking the park.

Maybe you should talk to Safeway first before you commandeer their property for your war on NIMBYs. They might have something to say about it.


I’m confident Safeway knows how to make the most money. They tried to redevelop the Palisades location with housing before they were stopped. That Glover Park strip has seen plenty of development already. If Safeway wants to redevelop it, no one will stop them.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 06:27     Subject: Re:Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

Anonymous wrote:The real opportunity is the Safeway in Georgetown/Glover Park. There are so many better and cheaper grocery stores very nearby, and that location would be perfect for a large apartment building overlooking the park.

Maybe you should talk to Safeway first before you commandeer their property for your war on NIMBYs. They might have something to say about it.