Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:45
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
I wonder if they will be found dead?
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:41
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Normally, I would not blame parents for their children's mental illness...but the circumstances of this case are unbelievable.
I think the parents are DEFINITELY negligent, as is the school.
That kid should have been sent directly to a mental hospital, and not allowed back into any classroom until a professional said it was safe for him to return.
He was suicidal and homicidal. If the administration was aware of that level of PHYSCIAL illness, he would not have been returned to the classroom.
Tragic.
How is the school negligent. Within the last 10 days pre-shooting and including the DAY of the shooting - I've seen that they've reached out to the parents at least 4 times. On top of the parents knowing he had issues and still buying him a weapon at 15. WTF?
November 21st - Ethan was searching bullets on his phone - his mother was called immediately and a voicemail was left.
November 21st - Ethan was searching bullets on his phone - his mother was sent an email regarding the same subject
November 26th - Father takes him Black Friday shopping for a gun
November 27th - Mother posts on FB 'Mom and son tests out his present' - she went shooting with him
November 29th - Ethan called in by administration
November 30th - Ethan called in by administration with parents
November 30th - Ethan shoots and kills 4 fellow students
The school is negligent because they kept letting him go to school everyday. If schools finds a kid to a threat they need to suspend them immediately until kid has been evaluated by a psych professional and home has had weapons removed or verified secured. Those things don’t legally happen now, but the least the school could have done was not allow him back to school. Holding a bunch of meetings with the parents is pretty pointless if he is still attending classes.
The parents should not have allowed him to attend school. They did. They provided the gun. The dad LOL'd about it. It's a pretty straight line here.
Schools can and should have suspended him. Duh. While of course the parents are negligent, the school is too. Just because the parents didn’t keep him home doesn’t mean the school can’t say he is allowed to attend because he is unsafe. That is the schools job to ultimately make that call because they are responsible for the safety of the entire student body. They failed the kids
Suspended him for what? I see he searched bullets, but did he threaten someone?
The prosecutor described a note that was absolutely threatening.
Except that the note you're talking about said "help me". The school can't prove that's a threat, the parents just say "oh whatever, it's just a joke" and the school says "no, it's a cry for help, get him help". You can't suspend a kid for asking for help.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:40
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:I hope they're racking up the felonies so they'll never legally be allowed to own guns again.[/qudo you think they care about anything being legal?ote]
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:40
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:I don't disagree with posters who think that there were further actions the school could and should have taken. Nevertheless, does anyone really doubt that had the kid left with his parents after that meeting, he wouldn't have just come back later with his gun and shot up the place anyway? I mean, Adam Lanza wasn't a student at Sandy Hook anymore. And wasn't the shooter in Parkland also suspended or a former student?
Have you tried to enter a school building lately? I doubt the receptionist would have buzzed them in, and forcing their way in would have given security time as well as more time for police to respond
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:38
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
I hope they're racking up the felonies so they'll never legally be allowed to own guns again.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:38
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cool, hopefully their little runaway act can get a few more felony charges that will stick even if the murder charges don't
🎯
They probably would have got off with a lighter sentence but fleeing custody doesn't look great to the judge.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:36
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
I don't disagree with posters who think that there were further actions the school could and should have taken. Nevertheless, does anyone really doubt that had the kid left with his parents after that meeting, he wouldn't have just come back later with his gun and shot up the place anyway? I mean, Adam Lanza wasn't a student at Sandy Hook anymore. And wasn't the shooter in Parkland also suspended or a former student?
Anonymous
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:33
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine a world in which my child drew something like this (such a cry for help) and then not immediately getting then just leaving them at school. While I don’t have much sympathy for the shooter, I do feel like his parents utterly failed him. How many lives would be different right now if his parents had taken their son’s red flags seriously.
These parents probably crowed about "parents rights" and thought the school was "wimpy snowflakes" for being concerned about their son's gun obsession.
10 bucks says they were screaming at the school board within the past year.
They certainly had no concerns about his bullets fetish.
Fortunately the parents have been charged.
Now they're all caught.
Oops, spoke too soon. I see now that they're on the run. Good grief.
And that makes them double sh*t parents because they've left their son to deal with the consequences alone while they try to save themselves.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:32
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:32
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Cool, hopefully their little runaway act can get a few more felony charges that will stick even if the murder charges don't
🎯
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:31
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The parents have fled and are currently on the run
Probably headed to Canada or……. You know.
A swamp in Florida?
They both have a history in Florida, complete with criminal records. The panhandle, of course.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:30
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine a world in which my child drew something like this (such a cry for help) and then not immediately getting then just leaving them at school. While I don’t have much sympathy for the shooter, I do feel like his parents utterly failed him. How many lives would be different right now if his parents had taken their son’s red flags seriously.
These parents probably crowed about "parents rights" and thought the school was "wimpy snowflakes" for being concerned about their son's gun obsession.
10 bucks says they were screaming at the school board within the past year.
They certainly had no concerns about his bullets fetish.
Fortunately the parents have been charged.
Now they're all caught.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:29
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Cool, hopefully their little runaway act can get a few more felony charges that will stick even if the murder charges don't
Anonymous
12/03/2021 15:29
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine a world in which my child drew something like this (such a cry for help) and then not immediately getting then just leaving them at school. While I don’t have much sympathy for the shooter, I do feel like his parents utterly failed him. How many lives would be different right now if his parents had taken their son’s red flags seriously.
These parents probably crowed about "parents rights" and thought the school was "wimpy snowflakes" for being concerned about their son's gun obsession.
10 bucks says they were screaming at the school board within the past year.
+1. WaPo mentioned that they only attended their son's arraignment virtually. They probably weren't allowed in the court house at that point because they weren't vaccinated. I'm just speculating.