Anonymous
Post 09/28/2021 11:56     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

I personally like the WSJ and Forbes rankings better
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2021 19:13     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top 10 universities based on peer reputation (2022)

1 -MIT
1 -Stanford
1 -Columbia
4 - Princeton
4 - Yale
6 - Harvard
6 - Northwestern
6 - UC - Berkeley
9 - Chicago
9 - Penn
9 - Caltech
9 - Rice

Significant movers - Peer ranking vs. overall ranking:

Top 20 Peer ranked, up 5 or more spots from National rank - Stanford, Berkley, Rice, Michigan

Top 20, down 5 or more spots - Duke, Vanderbilt
20-50, up 10 or more spots - Georgia Tech, UT-Austin, Wisconsin, UIUC, Ohio State, Washington, Purdue, Virginia Tech
20-50, down 10 or more spots - WashStL, Cornell, Florida, Tufts, Wake Forest, UC_Santa Barbara

50-100, up 25 or more - Colorado, Iowa, Arizona, Oregon, UC-Santa Cruz

50-100, down 25 or more - Rochester, Lehigh, Santa Clara, WPI, Yeshiva


Is this the counselor rating?


No, the peer reputation score is made by surveying university presidents and deans, whose opinions are manifold more credible than the anonymous posters with big opinions on DCUM.


It’s the Berkeley booster cherry-picking data again.

We’re talking about the overall US News ranking, not those of “anonymous posters with big opinions.” People keep explaining to you that validity of the peer reputation data is low, which is why US News doesn’t put more weight on it.

-NP




What's the basis of this list? Is this the actual peer assessment -based ranking??
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2021 01:09     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top 10 universities based on peer reputation (2022)

1 -MIT
1 -Stanford
1 -Columbia
4 - Princeton
4 - Yale
6 - Harvard
6 - Northwestern
6 - UC - Berkeley
9 - Chicago
9 - Penn
9 - Caltech
9 - Rice

Significant movers - Peer ranking vs. overall ranking:

Top 20 Peer ranked, up 5 or more spots from National rank - Stanford, Berkley, Rice, Michigan

Top 20, down 5 or more spots - Duke, Vanderbilt
20-50, up 10 or more spots - Georgia Tech, UT-Austin, Wisconsin, UIUC, Ohio State, Washington, Purdue, Virginia Tech
20-50, down 10 or more spots - WashStL, Cornell, Florida, Tufts, Wake Forest, UC_Santa Barbara

50-100, up 25 or more - Colorado, Iowa, Arizona, Oregon, UC-Santa Cruz

50-100, down 25 or more - Rochester, Lehigh, Santa Clara, WPI, Yeshiva


Is this the counselor rating?


No, the peer reputation score is made by surveying university presidents and deans, whose opinions are manifold more credible than the anonymous posters with big opinions on DCUM.


It’s the Berkeley booster cherry-picking data again.

We’re talking about the overall US News ranking, not those of “anonymous posters with big opinions.” People keep explaining to you that validity of the peer reputation data is low, which is why US News doesn’t put more weight on it.

-NP


Anonymous
Post 09/25/2021 23:34     Subject: Re:2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous
Post 09/25/2021 15:30     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top 10 universities based on peer reputation (2022)

1 -MIT
1 -Stanford
1 -Columbia
4 - Princeton
4 - Yale
6 - Harvard
6 - Northwestern
6 - UC - Berkeley
9 - Chicago
9 - Penn
9 - Caltech
9 - Rice

Significant movers - Peer ranking vs. overall ranking:

Top 20 Peer ranked, up 5 or more spots from National rank - Stanford, Berkley, Rice, Michigan

Top 20, down 5 or more spots - Duke, Vanderbilt
20-50, up 10 or more spots - Georgia Tech, UT-Austin, Wisconsin, UIUC, Ohio State, Washington, Purdue, Virginia Tech
20-50, down 10 or more spots - WashStL, Cornell, Florida, Tufts, Wake Forest, UC_Santa Barbara

50-100, up 25 or more - Colorado, Iowa, Arizona, Oregon, UC-Santa Cruz

50-100, down 25 or more - Rochester, Lehigh, Santa Clara, WPI, Yeshiva


Is this the counselor rating?

I think so, the peer Reputation ranking are different numbers. Harvard is a 4.9


No, you’re thinking of a prior year’s scores. These are the updated peer reputation scores, from the survey that university presidents fill out.

No it's this year's scores, I just looked, I have a subscription. And Harvards reputation would never change from year to year. It's 4.9 .


Can you post this year's actual ranking?
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2021 13:22     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top 10 universities based on peer reputation (2022)

1 -MIT
1 -Stanford
1 -Columbia
4 - Princeton
4 - Yale
6 - Harvard
6 - Northwestern
6 - UC - Berkeley
9 - Chicago
9 - Penn
9 - Caltech
9 - Rice

Significant movers - Peer ranking vs. overall ranking:

Top 20 Peer ranked, up 5 or more spots from National rank - Stanford, Berkley, Rice, Michigan

Top 20, down 5 or more spots - Duke, Vanderbilt
20-50, up 10 or more spots - Georgia Tech, UT-Austin, Wisconsin, UIUC, Ohio State, Washington, Purdue, Virginia Tech
20-50, down 10 or more spots - WashStL, Cornell, Florida, Tufts, Wake Forest, UC_Santa Barbara

50-100, up 25 or more - Colorado, Iowa, Arizona, Oregon, UC-Santa Cruz

50-100, down 25 or more - Rochester, Lehigh, Santa Clara, WPI, Yeshiva


Is this the counselor rating?

I think so, the peer Reputation ranking are different numbers. Harvard is a 4.9


No, you’re thinking of a prior year’s scores. These are the updated peer reputation scores, from the survey that university presidents fill out.

No it's this year's scores, I just looked, I have a subscription. And Harvards reputation would never change from year to year. It's 4.9 .
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2021 13:19     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top 10 universities based on peer reputation (2022)

1 -MIT
1 -Stanford
1 -Columbia
4 - Princeton
4 - Yale
6 - Harvard
6 - Northwestern
6 - UC - Berkeley
9 - Chicago
9 - Penn
9 - Caltech
9 - Rice

Significant movers - Peer ranking vs. overall ranking:

Top 20 Peer ranked, up 5 or more spots from National rank - Stanford, Berkley, Rice, Michigan

Top 20, down 5 or more spots - Duke, Vanderbilt
20-50, up 10 or more spots - Georgia Tech, UT-Austin, Wisconsin, UIUC, Ohio State, Washington, Purdue, Virginia Tech
20-50, down 10 or more spots - WashStL, Cornell, Florida, Tufts, Wake Forest, UC_Santa Barbara

50-100, up 25 or more - Colorado, Iowa, Arizona, Oregon, UC-Santa Cruz

50-100, down 25 or more - Rochester, Lehigh, Santa Clara, WPI, Yeshiva


Is this the counselor rating?

I think so, the peer Reputation ranking are different numbers. Harvard is a 4.9


No, you’re thinking of a prior year’s scores. These are the updated peer reputation scores, from the survey that university presidents fill out.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2021 13:16     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top 10 universities based on peer reputation (2022)

1 -MIT
1 -Stanford
1 -Columbia
4 - Princeton
4 - Yale
6 - Harvard
6 - Northwestern
6 - UC - Berkeley
9 - Chicago
9 - Penn
9 - Caltech
9 - Rice

Significant movers - Peer ranking vs. overall ranking:

Top 20 Peer ranked, up 5 or more spots from National rank - Stanford, Berkley, Rice, Michigan

Top 20, down 5 or more spots - Duke, Vanderbilt
20-50, up 10 or more spots - Georgia Tech, UT-Austin, Wisconsin, UIUC, Ohio State, Washington, Purdue, Virginia Tech
20-50, down 10 or more spots - WashStL, Cornell, Florida, Tufts, Wake Forest, UC_Santa Barbara

50-100, up 25 or more - Colorado, Iowa, Arizona, Oregon, UC-Santa Cruz

50-100, down 25 or more - Rochester, Lehigh, Santa Clara, WPI, Yeshiva


Is this the counselor rating?

I think so, the peer Reputation ranking are different numbers. Harvard is a 4.9
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2021 11:33     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top 10 universities based on peer reputation (2022)

1 -MIT
1 -Stanford
1 -Columbia
4 - Princeton
4 - Yale
6 - Harvard
6 - Northwestern
6 - UC - Berkeley
9 - Chicago
9 - Penn
9 - Caltech
9 - Rice

Significant movers - Peer ranking vs. overall ranking:

Top 20 Peer ranked, up 5 or more spots from National rank - Stanford, Berkley, Rice, Michigan

Top 20, down 5 or more spots - Duke, Vanderbilt
20-50, up 10 or more spots - Georgia Tech, UT-Austin, Wisconsin, UIUC, Ohio State, Washington, Purdue, Virginia Tech
20-50, down 10 or more spots - WashStL, Cornell, Florida, Tufts, Wake Forest, UC_Santa Barbara

50-100, up 25 or more - Colorado, Iowa, Arizona, Oregon, UC-Santa Cruz

50-100, down 25 or more - Rochester, Lehigh, Santa Clara, WPI, Yeshiva


Is this the counselor rating?


No, the peer reputation score is made by surveying university presidents and deans, whose opinions are manifold more credible than the anonymous posters with big opinions on DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2021 15:35     Subject: Re:2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:
Not many, but a few, surprises here … Go Blue!

https://www.newsweek.com/colleges-most-famous-alumni-1605419

Fame is subjective.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2021 13:51     Subject: Re:2022 US News Best National Universities


Not many, but a few, surprises here … Go Blue!

https://www.newsweek.com/colleges-most-famous-alumni-1605419
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 13:41     Subject: Re:2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:tiers based on cross admit preferences, September 2021 edition:

Harvard (55% picks over Stanford, 69% over Yale, 58% over MIT, and 77% over Princeton, 85% over Columbia)

Stanford (loses to Harvard, but 66% over MIT, 61% over Yale, 71% over Princeton, 83% over Columbia)

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MIT (loses to H and S, 67% over Yale, 55% over Princeton, 76% over Columbia, 81% over Caltech)

Yale (loses to H, S, and M, but wins 61% over Princeton, 70% over Columbia, 50%-50% tied with Caltech)

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Princeton (loses to all of the above, 65% over Columbia, 56% over Caltech, 76% over Penn, 80% over Duke, 62% over Chicago)

Columbia (loses to HYPSM but wins 58% over Caltech, 63% over Penn/Duke, 73% over Brown/Dartmouth, 65% over Chicago)

Caltech (loses to HYPSM, Columbia, but edges out Penn with 56%, Duke with 75%, Brown with 57%, Dartmouth with 60%, loses to Chicago with 47%, tied with Yale 50%-50%) - really an outlier here

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Penn (loses to Columbia, Caltech and HYPSM, 51% over Duke, wins 63% over Brown, 60% over Dartmouth, and 60% over Chicago)

Duke (loses to HYPSM, Columbia, Caltech, and marginally loses to Penn by only 2%, 59% over Brown, 63% over Dartmouth, and 57% over Chicago)

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Brown (loses to all of the above, tied 50%-50% with Chicago, but 65% over Dartmouth, 76% over Cornell, 86% over JHU, 64% over Northwestern, 67% over Rice)

Chicago (loses to all of the above except Caltech, tied 50%-50% with Brown, 54% over Dartmouth, 69% over Northwestern, 69% over JHU, 66% over Rice)

Dartmouth (loses to all of the above, 68% over Cornell, 59% over JHU, 61% over Northwestern, 71% over Rice)

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Cornell (loses to all of the above, 55% over Northwestern, 54% over JHU/Notre Dame, roughly tied with WashU, loses 47% to Rice)

Northwestern (loses to all of the above, 65% over JHU, 66% over Vanderbilt, 51% over WashU, 58% over Rice, but loses 44% to Notre Dame)

Rice (loses to all of the above, 55% over JHU, 57% over WashU, 53% over Cornell, 54% over Notre Dame)

JHU (loses to all of the above, 50-50% tied with Notre Dame, 57% over Vanderbilt, 53% over WashU)

Notre Dame (loses to all above, 50-50% tied with JHU, 74% over WashU, 70% over Vanderbilt)

WashU (roughly tied or loses to all of the above, 56% over Vanderbilt)

Vanderbilt (loses to all of the above, 50-50% tied with Rice)

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UCLA and other USNWR 20+ schools (loses to all of the above)


Parchment also says,

60% Wake Forest vs 40% Princeton
57% Virginia Tech vs 43% Princeton
68% Virginia Tech vs 33% Yale
57% James Madison U vs 43% Harvard
60% James Madison vs 40% Yale

Parchment says so - with 95% confidence interval - so it must be so.




If the results are in color, then the difference is statistically significant at a 95% confidence level." Ones that are not in color have low numbers and therefore are not significant. I didn't look at all of the ones above, but Wake and Princeton are not in color. The low numbers of cross-admits may well be largely special cases like athletes. Parchment returns significant numbers for schools that have bigger overlaps in applications, which will likely not be the schools above.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 10:28     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:Top 10 universities based on peer reputation (2022)

1 -MIT
1 -Stanford
1 -Columbia
4 - Princeton
4 - Yale
6 - Harvard
6 - Northwestern
6 - UC - Berkeley
9 - Chicago
9 - Penn
9 - Caltech
9 - Rice

Significant movers - Peer ranking vs. overall ranking:

Top 20 Peer ranked, up 5 or more spots from National rank - Stanford, Berkley, Rice, Michigan

Top 20, down 5 or more spots - Duke, Vanderbilt
20-50, up 10 or more spots - Georgia Tech, UT-Austin, Wisconsin, UIUC, Ohio State, Washington, Purdue, Virginia Tech
20-50, down 10 or more spots - WashStL, Cornell, Florida, Tufts, Wake Forest, UC_Santa Barbara

50-100, up 25 or more - Colorado, Iowa, Arizona, Oregon, UC-Santa Cruz

50-100, down 25 or more - Rochester, Lehigh, Santa Clara, WPI, Yeshiva


Is this the counselor rating?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 22:16     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

Top 10 universities based on peer reputation (2022)

1 -MIT
1 -Stanford
1 -Columbia
4 - Princeton
4 - Yale
6 - Harvard
6 - Northwestern
6 - UC - Berkeley
9 - Chicago
9 - Penn
9 - Caltech
9 - Rice

Significant movers - Peer ranking vs. overall ranking:

Top 20 Peer ranked, up 5 or more spots from National rank - Stanford, Berkley, Rice, Michigan

Top 20, down 5 or more spots - Duke, Vanderbilt
20-50, up 10 or more spots - Georgia Tech, UT-Austin, Wisconsin, UIUC, Ohio State, Washington, Purdue, Virginia Tech
20-50, down 10 or more spots - WashStL, Cornell, Florida, Tufts, Wake Forest, UC_Santa Barbara

50-100, up 25 or more - Colorado, Iowa, Arizona, Oregon, UC-Santa Cruz

50-100, down 25 or more - Rochester, Lehigh, Santa Clara, WPI, Yeshiva
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 22:09     Subject: 2022 US News Best National Universities

Anonymous wrote:How many times do we have to say... Parchment is not accurate.


You must be a UChicago parent. Only Chicago parents have ever complained about Parchment ranking it too low below its “peer” schools. Lol.