Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 11:24     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Did you see Brandon’s IG post about the death? Basically, don’t make someone else’s death about you. Jen, he’s talking directly TO YOU.

Also, there has been some serious drama around Heidi and Dave lately. Apparently she made some video about their relationship being toxic, they broke up like four times, and a few days ago she posted a photo, he commented that she was beautiful…and her followers ate him alive. Apparently she had broken up with him and was no longer speaking with him. It was also mentioned he had not been in a good place lately.


Not a Brandon stan but that was a good post. There are a lot of self-help “moguls” making Dave’s death about them.
I do worry about Heidi. Their relationship always seemed way too hard.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 11:24     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:If Brandon’s post is really about Jen, he needs to grow up and stop vaguebooking. They’ve both taken immature jabs at each other through social media and it’s lame (not that I’m any less lame for gossiping about them here).

However, since Brandon did not call Jen out by name, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt this time.


Yes, we’re all lame for reading and gossiping about them here. You all probably do the same sorts of things in your own lives, and are blissfully unaware. Tell your shadow self to grow up while you’re at it.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 11:07     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Pure speculation. Tina shouldn’t have left her job to work with Brandon. I obviously have no idea what their work entails other than selling plots. I have no idea how successful or secure this work is.

However I don’t see how legit the company could be if Brandon can become “executive VP” with virtually no experience. I imagine this work is heavily commissions based as well. That doesn’t seem secure to me and I don’t think I’ve ever seen him post about a sale.

While Brandon has not appeared to have any struggles with finances despite his spotty resume, it seems risky to put this added pressure of being dependent coworkers onto a new relationship.


Companies, especially sales companies, hand out VP titles like Halloween candy. It gives a certain authority and gravitas to approach a company or possible customer as a VP rather than a salesperson or business consultant. I worked for a company that sold medical services (think geriatric or rehab) to healthcare facilities and systems all over the country and all of the sales people were Vice Presidents, whether they’d been there for years or just been hired with a few years of unrelated sales experience.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 09:37     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Pure speculation. Tina shouldn’t have left her job to work with Brandon. I obviously have no idea what their work entails other than selling plots. I have no idea how successful or secure this work is.

However I don’t see how legit the company could be if Brandon can become “executive VP” with virtually no experience. I imagine this work is heavily commissions based as well. That doesn’t seem secure to me and I don’t think I’ve ever seen him post about a sale.

While Brandon has not appeared to have any struggles with finances despite his spotty resume, it seems risky to put this added pressure of being dependent coworkers onto a new relationship.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 07:45     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
I wonder if the sheeny shine has worn off for Tina/Brandon now that they're married. Marriage is tough! And often things get revealed that you didn't know before. I hope they're doing well.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 07:43     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
When I read Brandon's post last night I thought it was directly pointed at Jen I mean it was literally about not taking someone else's death and making it all about you. But Jen had just made her own post recently about how Valentine's with Brandon was essentially disappointing because he was good at gifts and 'commercialism.' Jen & Brandon are both making jobs at each other on social media this week
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2023 05:59     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
If Brandon’s post is really about Jen, he needs to grow up and stop vaguebooking. They’ve both taken immature jabs at each other through social media and it’s lame (not that I’m any less lame for gossiping about them here).

However, since Brandon did not call Jen out by name, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt this time.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:48     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:So were Dave and Heidi broken up or not? Because her post certainly doesn't sound like they were. And did he commit suicide or not? Because that seems to be wildly unclear. Agreed that Brandon's post was a clear clap-back at Jen.


They both posted about 2 weeks ago that they WERE broken up. Heidi is not known for rational
posts, although my heart breaks for her. She loved Dave, no question.

Apparently, he had heart issues. He was also working on his sobriety. I don’t know that COD really matters. He has 4 heart broken children. It’s so sad.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:39     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Rachel Hollis's post appears to have the comments turned off.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:38     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
So were Dave and Heidi broken up or not? Because her post certainly doesn't sound like they were. And did he commit suicide or not? Because that seems to be wildly unclear. Agreed that Brandon's post was a clear clap-back at Jen.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 22:24     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
And there’s the sappy reel from Big Sis about Big Sass and how happy he makes her. She never disappoints.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 21:50     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Did you see Brandon’s IG post about the death? Basically, don’t make someone else’s death about you. Jen, he’s talking directly TO YOU.

Also, there has been some serious drama around Heidi and Dave lately. Apparently she made some video about their relationship being toxic, they broke up like four times, and a few days ago she posted a photo, he commented that she was beautiful…and her followers ate him alive. Apparently she had broken up with him and was no longer speaking with him. It was also mentioned he had not been in a good place lately.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 20:13     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:it probably also gives rachel hollis much pleasure that jen got stuck with the public/social-media platform of “just having an inattentive long distance boyfriend and a cheating ex husband who is happily remarried to a hot wife — kids are grown and gone” while rachel now has the goldmine platform of “death of her children’s father, her former business partner and best friend” and all the stories she will be able to monetize and the books/podcasts/posts she will get richer on as she publicly navigates their new family dynamic. think that’s harsh? it’s not…her publicist is already all over it, no doubt. sad the world we live in. jen and rachel are so alike.


Shew. Ouch. Accurate. Sad.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 20:11     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What will be interesting is Jen’s involvement (or not) with any potential funeral held for Dave. It wouldn’t be shocking if Rachel didn’t want Jen to come at all, but it also wouldn’t be shocking if Rachel wanted Jen to provide a eulogy. PR pros and cons with both.


I wouldn't imagine it's all (or at all) Rachel's choice since she's the ex-wife. I would guess Dave's parents and siblings if he has any will be making the arrangements. It would be weird to have an ex plan your funeral.


It’s difficult to imagine Rachel Hollis doing anything less in this situation other than absolutely wearing her former in-laws out until she gets her way, even if she’s not invited to help with the planning. But since they were together for like 20 years, they probably did talk funeral preferences at some point. And she’s the mother of his 4 young kids who will need to be at the center of protective love through it all. That’s her role for sure.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 19:47     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:I can see it checking some people on their snark about trivial things like hair and makeup, but I actually disagree that all the venting and frustrations on threads like this are too harsh in light of eternal realities. Quite the opposite actually. Dave’s death is the kind of thing that will cause Jen to stare the truth of mortality in the face again, including her own. And if it had been her heart that quit a week or two ago, then the last thing she put out into the world was that silly dildo video. And if it had been her death making headlines today and people who had never heard of her were suddenly looking up her name… That’s what they would be finding on her pages…”I didn’t recognize the name Jen Hatmaker, but I looked her up and it’s a middle-aged divorcee who podcasts about her sex life…some sort of blogger/influencer type…” This might be a reality check Jen needs to turn her time and attention and efforts back to things of eternal value. She did that once upon a time, whether it was genuine or not.


Agreed. It would really change her social media if she would pause before every post and ask herself, “If this were my last ever post, would I be okay with that?” Keep the humor, keep the faith, keep the love. Ditch the filth, ditch the shilling, ditch the dishonest/deceptive spinning of circumstances.