Anonymous
10/13/2023 07:41
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Russians lost another ship today (the second in a couple days). I'd think at this point that NATO would certainly be interested in allying with the Black Sea's current naval power.
Anonymous
10/13/2023 07:37
Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous
10/13/2023 06:43
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Zelensky went from hero to zero.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 22:34
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Tbf, at least half the posts in the Gaza thread are trolls. So I'm not sure it really counts.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 22:31
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:That’s it, folks.
A year and a half of Ukraine/Russia fighting, but the page count on this thread has been overtaken by Israel/Hamas less than ONE WEEK after the fighting started there.
We put up a valiant effort, but it’s time to admit defeat.
😂
So many wine moms believed in Z and Vindman
Even z and vindman care more about Israel deep down!
Anonymous
10/12/2023 22:28
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
That’s it, folks.
A year and a half of Ukraine/Russia fighting, but the page count on this thread has been overtaken by Israel/Hamas less than ONE WEEK after the fighting started there.
We put up a valiant effort, but it’s time to admit defeat.
A year and a half of Ukraine/Russia fighting, but the page count on this thread has been overtaken by Israel/Hamas less than ONE WEEK after the fighting started there.
We put up a valiant effort, but it’s time to admit defeat.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 20:46
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Panic in Kiev! Competing with Israel for dollars now.
Why would a bunch of people who want to cut funding to Ukraine's army suddenly jump at the chance of funding Israel's army?
1. There are a whole lot more people in Congress that hold Israeli citizenship than Ukrainian.
2. Israel has a much greater chance of "winning" than Ukraine.
Which congress members are Israeli citizens? Or was this just made up, because I couldn’t find any with a quick search.
9 senators are de facto Israeli citizens
Another anti-Semite that believes being Jewish, a religion, makes you Israeli.
Are Catholics citizens of Rome? Those with Italian ancestry have similar rights but it doesn’t make them citizens.
Yes, being Jew makes you a citizen of Israel. You just have to ask.
Every Jew in the world has the unrestricted right to be an Israeli. It is as simple as just declaring it.
This is such an anti-Semitic view. There is a "right of return" to Israel for people with one Jewish grandparent. In order to become an Israeli citizen, a Jewish person must apply for the right of return and prove their ancestry and religious affiliation. They must physically return to Israel. It is not so simple as "just declaring it".
It is also not different from dozens of other countries that have "citizenship by ancestry" or "citizenship by descent" - Poland, Hungary, Ireland, Mexico, and many others.
The anti-semitism lies in the way people call out only Jews for their suspect loyalties to Israel merely because of their religion. This is what PPs are doing when they suggest that Jews in congress will vote according to Israel's interests.
No one questioned Cruz's loyalty because he was a dual Canadian citizen.
No one questions Michelle Bachmann's loyalty even though she is a US citizen by birth with a second Swiss citizenship which she acquired by declaration under the ancestry pathway.
There are many members of Congress with Irish ancestry, yet no one questions their loyalty - neither to Ireland nor to the Pope if they are catholic. (Well, at least not after JFK.)
If there are American Polish/Hungarian/Irish/Mexican/Swiss Political Action Committees, then I have never heard of them. Further, our politicians don't attend these conferences (if they exist) and pledge their undying support for that country and promising billions in foreign aid. They don't compete with one another to outdo their support for those countries either. They don't make pilgrimages to those countries either.
Its a completely different thing. With Israel, they act like that is their "real" country and being an American is their day job.
You are totally right about it. I had a discussion with some American Jews and most of them said that in case of a war between the US and Israel (we know it would never happen of course), they would fight to defend Israel. This tells you everything.
No foreign country has more armed forces members living in the us than Israel
It’s why you are seeing all those flights of reservists and ex IDF people in us flying to Israel
German Americans aren’t German army reservists!
Maybe German Americans aren’t German reservists because, thanks to NATO, Germans don’t have to worry about being attacked by any country and therefore there’s no need to call reservists up for a war?
Anonymous
10/12/2023 17:31
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Wow! Big news!
Anonymous
Anonymous
10/12/2023 07:48
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge loss of face for Biden and unfathomable loss of status and influence for the USA if Russia is allowed to win in Ukraine.
It will be the beginning of the end for the USA.
You must not think much of America if you think the regaining by Russia of a few oblasts is the “beginning of the end.”
Drama queen naturally or are you a ukie trying to get america to pay for that which the ukranian expat community is unwilling to do- pay for this war.
Its a serious blow in that it demonstrates that to beat America, all you have to do is outlast their attention span. In this case, that was only about 20 months.
NATO threw a lot of resources at this conflict and said a lot of things in support, but even with no troops directly in the line of fire, they cut bait really quickly.
That's going to be noticed, and exploited in the not too distant future.
It is Ukraine today, it was Korea, Vietnam, Kurds, Afghanistan, etc. yesterday. Republicans will alway abandon allies when they are in need. Next up for the republicans is Israel. I do not see their tepid support lasting longer than the first funding bill. After that NATO is gone. Why do we even bother sending arms to Taiwan? Why do we even have a military?
Anonymous
10/12/2023 07:24
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge loss of face for Biden and unfathomable loss of status and influence for the USA if Russia is allowed to win in Ukraine.
It will be the beginning of the end for the USA.
You must not think much of America if you think the regaining by Russia of a few oblasts is the “beginning of the end.”
Drama queen naturally or are you a ukie trying to get america to pay for that which the ukranian expat community is unwilling to do- pay for this war.
Its a serious blow in that it demonstrates that to beat America, all you have to do is outlast their attention span. In this case, that was only about 20 months.
NATO threw a lot of resources at this conflict and said a lot of things in support, but even with no troops directly in the line of fire, they cut bait really quickly.
That's going to be noticed, and exploited in the not too distant future.
Isn't this all referring to the additional aid that Congress hasn't authorized yet due to no Speaker? And whenever we have a new Speaker, aid will again be authorized.
We haven't changed policy. We're just stuck in limbo for the moment.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 07:20
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge loss of face for Biden and unfathomable loss of status and influence for the USA if Russia is allowed to win in Ukraine.
It will be the beginning of the end for the USA.
You must not think much of America if you think the regaining by Russia of a few oblasts is the “beginning of the end.”
Drama queen naturally or are you a ukie trying to get america to pay for that which the ukranian expat community is unwilling to do- pay for this war.
Its a serious blow in that it demonstrates that to beat America, all you have to do is outlast their attention span. In this case, that was only about 20 months.
NATO threw a lot of resources at this conflict and said a lot of things in support, but even with no troops directly in the line of fire, they cut bait really quickly.
That's going to be noticed, and exploited in the not too distant future.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 07:01
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Huge loss of face for Biden and unfathomable loss of status and influence for the USA if Russia is allowed to win in Ukraine.
It will be the beginning of the end for the USA.
What would Russia win? They lost another ship near Sevastopol by the way. Going into this whole thing, they were the dominant force on the Black Sea. Now, Crimea is pretty much useless to them since it's been converted into a ship-to-submarine zone...
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3773052-ukraines-navy-reports-damage-to-pavel-derzhavin-russian-ship-near-sevastopol.html
Anonymous
10/12/2023 05:46
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
There are plane loads of ukranians from Sunny isles ready to fly to Ukraine to fight, just like the Israelis.
Just send money first to Zelensky and then they will fly out. Thank you.
Just send money first to Zelensky and then they will fly out. Thank you.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 22:32
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Kirby says coming to end of funding rope!!!
We are in the final hours…. Hopefully lives can be saved.
https://x.com/ramy_sawma/status/1712190588269847007?s=46&t=RXug2E3wPuDEf8vlgSC9SQ
Kirby looks like a crappy game show tv host
We don’t have serious people in this country