Anonymous
Post 03/21/2021 17:24     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:If kids cheated on the test last week, then they will need to cheat for four years at TJ. They will get caught and not get into a good college which is what we all know that this is about. If they can't take a simple test like that on their own, they have no hope.


but parents will display the TJ bumber sticker proudly
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2021 14:38     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
If kids cheated on the test last week, then they will need to cheat for four years at TJ. They will get caught and not get into a good college which is what we all know that this is about. If they can't take a simple test like that on their own, they have no hope.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2021 12:14     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stop asian hate, hardwork, studying and intelligence is asian culture


Indian here. I think you are an asian equivalent of KKK.

No one is trying to hold you or your family back. Stop with the poor me attitude. No got for you kids.


Not good for your kids.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2021 12:12     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Stop asian hate, hardwork, studying and intelligence is asian culture


Indian here. I think you are an asian equivalent of KKK.

No one is trying to hold you or your family back. Stop with the poor me attitude. No got for you kids.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2021 12:09     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stop asian hate, hardwork, studying and intelligence is asian culture


This attitude is rightly called Asian supremacy. You don’t have a monopoly on hard work or studying and CERTAINLY not on intelligence. Disgusting attitude.


Indian here. And I agree. Utterly disgusting.

Hard work, intelligence is not the monopoly of any one culture.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2021 11:30     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
We should encourage all people to prep as much as possible for anything and everything they do. That's where excellence comes from.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2021 11:24     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's ban all prep for any competition. Ban prep for testing, ban training for sports competition, ban prep for rocket launch, ban training for combat, ban rehearsal for performance, ban practice for making music, .... All these are unfair to those who can't and don't want to prepare. Let's be all equal.


It is indeed a stupid idea to "ban" prep. Better to simply do away with tests that lend themselves too much to being swayed by prep, or perhaps to simply provide free prep in the form of practice tests and study books.


But those who prep are also those who work hard in school, have higher GPA. Is there any way to make them work less harder and lower their GPA? Or maybe get rid the requirement of transcripts as well?


When faced with a rational argument you come back with drivel.


As illogical as your argument for banning testing because people would prep for it, why leave out many events in life that we have to prep for? Ban them all if you would keep up with your logic.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2021 11:13     Subject: Re:How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Questions for all of you:

If one test prep place that used previous test questions and got 25% of their students into a school were composed of all white people, would it spur a state wide movement to decrease the numbers of white students at the school?

If one test prep place that used previous test questions and got 25% of their students into a school were composed of all black people, would it spur a state wide movement to decrease the numbers of black students at the school?

Would all white or black students be treated as a monolith by the state and county or would the actions of these people be considered actions of individuals?

Dig deep and be real without making excuses.







You mischaracterize what is happening. There is no movement to reduce the number of Asian students, there's a movement to make admissions less susceptible to cheating. The new process is race neutral and sets a GPA benchmark for those who want to apply. It removed the advantage those who were willing to cheat had in the process. That doesn't make it an anti-Asian movement.


Are you sure it removed cheating? There were tons of cheating last week during the essay. No supervision at all! Are you kidding me? Basically if you didn't cheat, you stupid.


Ideally there wouldn’t be one type of answer that the committee was looking for, making cheating impossible. Can’t cheat if there’s no right answer.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2021 10:22     Subject: Re:How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Questions for all of you:

If one test prep place that used previous test questions and got 25% of their students into a school were composed of all white people, would it spur a state wide movement to decrease the numbers of white students at the school?

If one test prep place that used previous test questions and got 25% of their students into a school were composed of all black people, would it spur a state wide movement to decrease the numbers of black students at the school?

Would all white or black students be treated as a monolith by the state and county or would the actions of these people be considered actions of individuals?

Dig deep and be real without making excuses.







You mischaracterize what is happening. There is no movement to reduce the number of Asian students, there's a movement to make admissions less susceptible to cheating. The new process is race neutral and sets a GPA benchmark for those who want to apply. It removed the advantage those who were willing to cheat had in the process. That doesn't make it an anti-Asian movement.


Are you sure it removed cheating? There were tons of cheating last week during the essay. No supervision at all! Are you kidding me? Basically if you didn't cheat, you stupid.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2021 07:36     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's ban all prep for any competition. Ban prep for testing, ban training for sports competition, ban prep for rocket launch, ban training for combat, ban rehearsal for performance, ban practice for making music, .... All these are unfair to those who can't and don't want to prepare. Let's be all equal.


It is indeed a stupid idea to "ban" prep. Better to simply do away with tests that lend themselves too much to being swayed by prep, or perhaps to simply provide free prep in the form of practice tests and study books.


But those who prep are also those who work hard in school, have higher GPA. Is there any way to make them work less harder and lower their GPA? Or maybe get rid the requirement of transcripts as well?


When faced with a rational argument you come back with drivel.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 23:52     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's ban all prep for any competition. Ban prep for testing, ban training for sports competition, ban prep for rocket launch, ban training for combat, ban rehearsal for performance, ban practice for making music, .... All these are unfair to those who can't and don't want to prepare. Let's be all equal.


It is indeed a stupid idea to "ban" prep. Better to simply do away with tests that lend themselves too much to being swayed by prep, or perhaps to simply provide free prep in the form of practice tests and study books.


But those who prep are also those who work hard in school, have higher GPA. Is there any way to make them work less harder and lower their GPA? Or maybe get rid the requirement of transcripts as well?
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 20:12     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Let's ban all prep for any competition. Ban prep for testing, ban training for sports competition, ban prep for rocket launch, ban training for combat, ban rehearsal for performance, ban practice for making music, .... All these are unfair to those who can't and don't want to prepare. Let's be all equal.


It is indeed a stupid idea to "ban" prep. Better to simply do away with tests that lend themselves too much to being swayed by prep, or perhaps to simply provide free prep in the form of practice tests and study books.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 20:10     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
I teach test prep for a living. I have never taught TJ test prep (nor would I), but I once had a friend whose son was very bright, but who couldn't afford the test prep course that she told me other people she knew were using. I wanted to help her, so I did some research, and was able to pretty quickly find a copy of the TJ test - not any actual test. It's like the SAT - every test is unique - and yet every test is the same. So while no one has the actual test, it's not that hard to come up with tests that are nearly identical and use those to prep.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 16:40     Subject: Re:How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Questions for all of you:

If one test prep place that used previous test questions and got 25% of their students into a school were composed of all white people, would it spur a state wide movement to decrease the numbers of white students at the school?

If one test prep place that used previous test questions and got 25% of their students into a school were composed of all black people, would it spur a state wide movement to decrease the numbers of black students at the school?

Would all white or black students be treated as a monolith by the state and county or would the actions of these people be considered actions of individuals?

Dig deep and be real without making excuses.







You mischaracterize what is happening. There is no movement to reduce the number of Asian students, there's a movement to make admissions less susceptible to cheating. The new process is race neutral and sets a GPA benchmark for those who want to apply. It removed the advantage those who were willing to cheat had in the process. That doesn't make it an anti-Asian movement.


Not mischaracterized.

Reducing Asian student numbers is a clearly stated goal in the VA dept of Education meetings. It's all available under the FOIA.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2021 16:15     Subject: How does one prep place account for 25% of TJ Admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Stop asian hate, hardwork, studying and intelligence is asian culture


This attitude is rightly called Asian supremacy. You don’t have a monopoly on hard work or studying and CERTAINLY not on intelligence. Disgusting attitude.