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Anonymous wrote:Seems as if anyone who does not support reparations is racist around here.

I don't support reparations.
I guess I am racist.
I guess Barack Obama is racist too.

Oh honey. Did your feelings get hurt? I’m so sorry. But no one called you a racist for not supporting reparations - they called you a racist for the REASONS why you don’t support it. Need a tissue?

No, I'm good. Thanks.
I just know it's projection. And, the way some people here try to shut down discussion when they disagree with the argument.
So. I am not offended nor am I afraid to continue to express my opinion.

Timestamp of post that you believe was an attempt to shut you down?

Not a reply to me, but to another "racist" poster. 06/27/2020 22:25

I called that PP a racist for denying that white people are “privileged”. Also, that PP was generally nasty and not interested in actually discussing the topic.

Do you think white people have more “privilege” than black people in the US? Or, put another way, do you think that black people experience systemic racism in the US today?

If I understand correctly, you generally support my list of reparations with the exception of wanting to include other underprivileged people and also no language about it being for “historical” crimes?

I'm not the poster that supports any kind of reparations. I think it is a dumb idea that would be logistically impossible and would do nothing to advance the cause of POC.
I also don't believe in white privilege. And, to call someone "racist" for not buying into this BS is absurd.
Some white people are privileged. But, just to blow your mind.... some black people are privileged too.

Ask the people who live in the shacks in Appalachia if they are "privileged." Or, the people who live in the back woods of rural areas all over this country.

I also don't think there is systemic racism. There are pockets around our country where racism exists, and there are individuals who are racist. I would include POC in that bucket as well.
But, "systemic racism" is a trope being trotted out now by the Dems, yet again during an election year, to fire up POC. Funny how that happens. Every 4 years. Like clockwork.

Yes, there are poor white people and there are rich black people. We aren’t talking about individuals.

The median white family has 86x the assets as the median black family.

Predominantly-black K-12 school districts spend $25B less than similarly-sized, predominantly-white districts.

The average white kids and the average black kids don’t have the same opportunities. That is the “privilege”.

Blahblahblah.

In our city, black-majority schools receive tons more money than the rest.

And still underperform, by far.

The only "privilege" is having two responsible adults at home, and that's available to people of any skin color.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems as if anyone who does not support reparations is racist around here.

I don't support reparations.
I guess I am racist.
I guess Barack Obama is racist too.

Oh honey. Did your feelings get hurt? I’m so sorry. But no one called you a racist for not supporting reparations - they called you a racist for the REASONS why you don’t support it. Need a tissue?

No, I'm good. Thanks.
I just know it's projection. And, the way some people here try to shut down discussion when they disagree with the argument.
So. I am not offended nor am I afraid to continue to express my opinion.

Timestamp of post that you believe was an attempt to shut you down?

Not a reply to me, but to another "racist" poster. 06/27/2020 22:25

I called that PP a racist for denying that white people are “privileged”. Also, that PP was generally nasty and not interested in actually discussing the topic.

Do you think white people have more “privilege” than black people in the US? Or, put another way, do you think that black people experience systemic racism in the US today?

If I understand correctly, you generally support my list of reparations with the exception of wanting to include other underprivileged people and also no language about it being for “historical” crimes?

I'm not the poster that supports any kind of reparations. I think it is a dumb idea that would be logistically impossible and would do nothing to advance the cause of POC.
I also don't believe in white privilege. And, to call someone "racist" for not buying into this BS is absurd.
Some white people are privileged. But, just to blow your mind.... some black people are privileged too.

Ask the people who live in the shacks in Appalachia if they are "privileged." Or, the people who live in the back woods of rural areas all over this country.

I also don't think there is systemic racism. There are pockets around our country where racism exists, and there are individuals who are racist. I would include POC in that bucket as well.
But, "systemic racism" is a trope being trotted out now by the Dems, yet again during an election year, to fire up POC. Funny how that happens. Every 4 years. Like clockwork.

Yes, there are poor white people and there are rich black people. We aren’t talking about individuals.

The median white family has 86x the assets as the median black family.

Predominantly-black K-12 school districts spend $25B less than similarly-sized, predominantly-white districts.

The average white kids and the average black kids don’t have the same opportunities. That is the “privilege”.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems as if anyone who does not support reparations is racist around here.

I don't support reparations.
I guess I am racist.
I guess Barack Obama is racist too.

Oh honey. Did your feelings get hurt? I’m so sorry. But no one called you a racist for not supporting reparations - they called you a racist for the REASONS why you don’t support it. Need a tissue?

No, I'm good. Thanks.
I just know it's projection. And, the way some people here try to shut down discussion when they disagree with the argument.
So. I am not offended nor am I afraid to continue to express my opinion.

Timestamp of post that you believe was an attempt to shut you down?

Not a reply to me, but to another "racist" poster. 06/27/2020 22:25

I called that PP a racist for denying that white people are “privileged”. Also, that PP was generally nasty and not interested in actually discussing the topic.

Do you think white people have more “privilege” than black people in the US? Or, put another way, do you think that black people experience systemic racism in the US today?

If I understand correctly, you generally support my list of reparations with the exception of wanting to include other underprivileged people and also no language about it being for “historical” crimes?

I'm not the poster that supports any kind of reparations. I think it is a dumb idea that would be logistically impossible and would do nothing to advance the cause of POC.
I also don't believe in white privilege. And, to call someone "racist" for not buying into this BS is absurd.
Some white people are privileged. But, just to blow your mind.... some black people are privileged too.

Ask the people who live in the shacks in Appalachia if they are "privileged." Or, the people who live in the back woods of rural areas all over this country.

I also don't think there is systemic racism. There are pockets around our country where racism exists, and there are individuals who are racist. I would include POC in that bucket as well.
But, "systemic racism" is a trope being trotted out now by the Dems, yet again during an election year, to fire up POC. Funny how that happens. Every 4 years. Like clockwork.

Yes, there are poor white people and there are rich black people. We aren’t talking about individuals.

The median white family has 86x the assets as the median black family.

Predominantly-black K-12 school districts spend $25B less than similarly-sized, predominantly-white districts.

The average white kids and the average black kids don’t have the same opportunities. That is the “privilege”.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems as if anyone who does not support reparations is racist around here.

I don't support reparations.
I guess I am racist.
I guess Barack Obama is racist too.

Oh honey. Did your feelings get hurt? I’m so sorry. But no one called you a racist for not supporting reparations - they called you a racist for the REASONS why you don’t support it. Need a tissue?

No, I'm good. Thanks.
I just know it's projection. And, the way some people here try to shut down discussion when they disagree with the argument.
So. I am not offended nor am I afraid to continue to express my opinion.

Timestamp of post that you believe was an attempt to shut you down?

Not a reply to me, but to another "racist" poster. 06/27/2020 22:25

I called that PP a racist for denying that white people are “privileged”. Also, that PP was generally nasty and not interested in actually discussing the topic.

Do you think white people have more “privilege” than black people in the US? Or, put another way, do you think that black people experience systemic racism in the US today?

If I understand correctly, you generally support my list of reparations with the exception of wanting to include other underprivileged people and also no language about it being for “historical” crimes?

I'm not the poster that supports any kind of reparations. I think it is a dumb idea that would be logistically impossible and would do nothing to advance the cause of POC.
I also don't believe in white privilege. And, to call someone "racist" for not buying into this BS is absurd.
Some white people are privileged. But, just to blow your mind.... some black people are privileged too.

Ask the people who live in the shacks in Appalachia if they are "privileged." Or, the people who live in the back woods of rural areas all over this country.

I also don't think there is systemic racism. There are pockets around our country where racism exists, and there are individuals who are racist. I would include POC in that bucket as well.
But, "systemic racism" is a trope being trotted out now by the Dems, yet again during an election year, to fire up POC. Funny how that happens. Every 4 years. Like clockwork.

Anonymous wrote:I’m black, a descendant of slaves, and I have no desire to receive reparations. To me, reparations are an easy way for white people to absolve their feelings of guilt. It also threatens to maintain the status quo.

I don’t want money thrown at me. I want systemic change. I want to work with peoples of all colors to improve our institutions of government and our public policies, and eradicate that which sustains racism. I want a future in which my kids and grandkids are respected as human beings. I want them judged by their intelligence, empathy, and work ethic - not by the color of their skin.

Money doesn’t buy that.

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Lady, how much damn money do you want me to pay you?

Great question. A congressional study would be the best approach to defining criteria and programs, but here is what I’d like to see done:

First, the US should issue an apology that recognizes the impact of white supremacy in US policies over the last 400 years. Also, update k-12 curriculum to more accurately reflect black history in the US and incorporate programs to reduce implicit bias.

Then, to “atone” for the atrocities, the US government should create a portfolio of investments into black communities (programs to increase homeownership, education, and wealth). The actual impact of white supremacy was trillions of dollars (various estimates range from $2T to $100T+). I’d like to see that paid out over time.

$300B per year over the next 20 years (re-evaluate every 5 years):
- $25B for predominantly black PK-12 districts (that is the current gap in spending)
- $10B for training programs
- $10B for community college & HBCU
- $5B for high-quality childcare for those in training/school
- $75B for business loans/grants
- $75B for homeownership programs, prioritizing people who live in redlined neighborhoods (equity grants to reduce gap in homeownership - 43% vs 73%)
- $80B for personal investments or opportunity accounts - $2k pp per year (median white family has 86x assets as median black)
- $20B for rehabilitation programs for inmates

~40 million Americans would be eligible if criteria is having one enslaved ancestor and identifying as black for the last 10 years.

That still doesn’t cover the current wealth gap of $267k pp, but it’s a great start towards recovery.

My sources:

https://www.vox.com/2014/5/23/5741352/six-times-victims-have-received-reparations-including-four-in-the-us

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-brooks-reparations-20190423-story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/business/economy/reparations-slavery.html

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/4791140_Forty_Acres_and_a_Mule_in_the_21st_Century

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/22/17999558/cory-booker-baby-bonds

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07XVF3X9D?storeType=ebooks

(I’m typing on my phone - please excuse typos)

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Anonymous wrote:If people are going to insist on this absurdity 160 years after slavery was ended, then make just the former Confederate states pay. I am from a Northern State that gave more lives fighting for the Union than any other. The descendants of those people have paid enough.

Actually, you should pay reparations to the South for having invaded their country, you colonialist imperialist yankee

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Anonymous wrote:Seems as if anyone who does not support reparations is racist around here.

I don't support reparations.
I guess I am racist.
I guess Barack Obama is racist too.

Oh honey. Did your feelings get hurt? I’m so sorry. But no one called you a racist for not supporting reparations - they called you a racist for the REASONS why you don’t support it. Need a tissue?

I don't support reparations because I don't believe anyone is entitled to personal cash payment for anything that happened to any group in any previous generation, no matter how horrible. I do believe that poor people should be given assistance to earn money, buy homes, build businesses etc. I also believe that systemic racism is a problem and that all forms of systemic racism should be dismantled today but I don't consider this a reparation because it doesn't make up for anything that happened in a previous generation.

I called myself a racist for taking this position. Do you I think I am?

How about the residual harm that black people experience today?

Residual is a subset of current. And gets no privileges over any harm that is not considered "residual."

But still a “yes” on residual harm as it exists today?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems as if anyone who does not support reparations is racist around here.

I don't support reparations.
I guess I am racist.
I guess Barack Obama is racist too.

Oh honey. Did your feelings get hurt? I’m so sorry. But no one called you a racist for not supporting reparations - they called you a racist for the REASONS why you don’t support it. Need a tissue?

No, I'm good. Thanks.
I just know it's projection. And, the way some people here try to shut down discussion when they disagree with the argument.
So. I am not offended nor am I afraid to continue to express my opinion.

Timestamp of post that you believe was an attempt to shut you down?

Not a reply to me, but to another "racist" poster. 06/27/2020 22:25

I called that PP a racist for denying that white people are “privileged”. Also, that PP was generally nasty and not interested in actually discussing the topic.

Do you think white people have more “privilege” than black people in the US? Or, put another way, do you think that black people experience systemic racism in the US today?

If I understand correctly, you generally support my list of reparations with the exception of wanting to include other underprivileged people and also no language about it being for “historical” crimes?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems as if anyone who does not support reparations is racist around here.

I don't support reparations.
I guess I am racist.
I guess Barack Obama is racist too.

Oh honey. Did your feelings get hurt? I’m so sorry. But no one called you a racist for not supporting reparations - they called you a racist for the REASONS why you don’t support it. Need a tissue?

I don't support reparations because I don't believe anyone is entitled to personal cash payment for anything that happened to any group in any previous generation, no matter how horrible. I do believe that poor people should be given assistance to earn money, buy homes, build businesses etc. I also believe that systemic racism is a problem and that all forms of systemic racism should be dismantled today but I don't consider this a reparation because it doesn't make up for anything that happened in a previous generation.

I called myself a racist for taking this position. Do you I think I am?

How about the residual harm that black people experience today?

Residual is a subset of current. And gets no privileges over any harm that is not considered "residual."

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems as if anyone who does not support reparations is racist around here.

I don't support reparations.
I guess I am racist.
I guess Barack Obama is racist too.

Oh honey. Did your feelings get hurt? I’m so sorry. But no one called you a racist for not supporting reparations - they called you a racist for the REASONS why you don’t support it. Need a tissue?

No, I'm good. Thanks.
I just know it's projection. And, the way some people here try to shut down discussion when they disagree with the argument.
So. I am not offended nor am I afraid to continue to express my opinion.

Timestamp of post that you believe was an attempt to shut you down?

Not a reply to me, but to another "racist" poster. 06/27/2020 22:25

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Seems as if anyone who does not support reparations is racist around here.

I don't support reparations.
I guess I am racist.
I guess Barack Obama is racist too.

Oh honey. Did your feelings get hurt? I’m so sorry. But no one called you a racist for not supporting reparations - they called you a racist for the REASONS why you don’t support it. Need a tissue?

I don't support reparations because I don't believe anyone is entitled to personal cash payment for anything that happened to any group in any previous generation, no matter how horrible. I do believe that poor people should be given assistance to earn money, buy homes, build businesses etc. I also believe that systemic racism is a problem and that all forms of systemic racism should be dismantled today but I don't consider this a reparation because it doesn't make up for anything that happened in a previous generation.

I called myself a racist for taking this position. Do you I think I am?

How about the residual harm that black people experience today?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems as if anyone who does not support reparations is racist around here.

I don't support reparations.
I guess I am racist.
I guess Barack Obama is racist too.

Oh honey. Did your feelings get hurt? I’m so sorry. But no one called you a racist for not supporting reparations - they called you a racist for the REASONS why you don’t support it. Need a tissue?

I don't support reparations because I don't believe anyone is entitled to personal cash payment for anything that happened to any group in any previous generation, no matter how horrible. I do believe that poor people should be given assistance to earn money, buy homes, build businesses etc. I also believe that systemic racism is a problem and that all forms of systemic racism should be dismantled today but I don't consider this a reparation because it doesn't make up for anything that happened in a previous generation.

I called myself a racist for taking this position. Do you I think I am?