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NP. Because I just don't see the evidence that says that casual vaccinated strangers masking protects kids. I would do it in a heartbeat if I thought it was useful. But the truth of the matter is that I run into kids that are too young to be vaccinated in stores and the like indoors. In those spaces, I am do not have much contact with the kid. In the unlikely event that I have an asymptomatic case of COVID now that I am vaccinated and living with vaccinated adults and teens, I just dont see how I could pass the virus to them. And even if lightening struck and I did pass to them, all evidence says that the vast majority of them will be fine. Now if my sister asks me to mask indoors while I hang out with my young nephew, I would do it. Because it is more than casual contact. The likelihood of my nephew picking up COVID from me is also very small, but its higher than for a neighborhood kid at the grocery store. This is why vaccinated people masking creates a sense of protection that is false. The only thing to do with young kids is to unfortunately continue to be mindful of social distancing. I hope the pediatric vaccine is available soon.

Because there are "breakthrough cases" and even if you are asymptomatic, you can STILL pass it on to the unvaccinated kids.

Did you read my whole post? i dont see how I could pass the virus as a vaccinated adult to unrelated kids who I run across in a grocery store. I acknowledged that there is a small risk with my nephews or friends kids who I see for longer periods of time.

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NP. Because I just don't see the evidence that says that casual vaccinated strangers masking protects kids. I would do it in a heartbeat if I thought it was useful. But the truth of the matter is that I run into kids that are too young to be vaccinated in stores and the like indoors. In those spaces, I am do not have much contact with the kid. In the unlikely event that I have an asymptomatic case of COVID now that I am vaccinated and living with vaccinated adults and teens, I just dont see how I could pass the virus to them. And even if lightening struck and I did pass to them, all evidence says that the vast majority of them will be fine. Now if my sister asks me to mask indoors while I hang out with my young nephew, I would do it. Because it is more than casual contact. The likelihood of my nephew picking up COVID from me is also very small, but its higher than for a neighborhood kid at the grocery store. This is why vaccinated people masking creates a sense of protection that is false. The only thing to do with young kids is to unfortunately continue to be mindful of social distancing. I hope the pediatric vaccine is available soon.

Because there are "breakthrough cases" and even if you are asymptomatic, you can STILL pass it on to the unvaccinated kids.

Did you read my whole post? i dont see how I could pass the virus as a vaccinated adult to unrelated kids who I run across in a grocery store. I acknowledged that there is a small risk with my nephews or friends kids who I see for longer periods of time.

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Anonymous wrote:

NP. Because I just don't see the evidence that says that casual vaccinated strangers masking protects kids. I would do it in a heartbeat if I thought it was useful. But the truth of the matter is that I run into kids that are too young to be vaccinated in stores and the like indoors. In those spaces, I am do not have much contact with the kid. In the unlikely event that I have an asymptomatic case of COVID now that I am vaccinated and living with vaccinated adults and teens, I just dont see how I could pass the virus to them. And even if lightening struck and I did pass to them, all evidence says that the vast majority of them will be fine. Now if my sister asks me to mask indoors while I hang out with my young nephew, I would do it. Because it is more than casual contact. The likelihood of my nephew picking up COVID from me is also very small, but its higher than for a neighborhood kid at the grocery store. This is why vaccinated people masking creates a sense of protection that is false. The only thing to do with young kids is to unfortunately continue to be mindful of social distancing. I hope the pediatric vaccine is available soon.

Because there are "breakthrough cases" and even if you are asymptomatic, you can STILL pass it on to the unvaccinated kids.

Did you read my whole post? i dont see how I could pass the virus as a vaccinated adult to unrelated kids who I run across in a grocery store. I acknowledged that there is a small risk with my nephews or friends kids who I see for longer periods of time.

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Anonymous wrote:

NP. Because I just don't see the evidence that says that casual vaccinated strangers masking protects kids. I would do it in a heartbeat if I thought it was useful. But the truth of the matter is that I run into kids that are too young to be vaccinated in stores and the like indoors. In those spaces, I am do not have much contact with the kid. In the unlikely event that I have an asymptomatic case of COVID now that I am vaccinated and living with vaccinated adults and teens, I just dont see how I could pass the virus to them. And even if lightening struck and I did pass to them, all evidence says that the vast majority of them will be fine. Now if my sister asks me to mask indoors while I hang out with my young nephew, I would do it. Because it is more than casual contact. The likelihood of my nephew picking up COVID from me is also very small, but its higher than for a neighborhood kid at the grocery store. This is why vaccinated people masking creates a sense of protection that is false. The only thing to do with young kids is to unfortunately continue to be mindful of social distancing. I hope the pediatric vaccine is available soon.

Because there are "breakthrough cases" and even if you are asymptomatic, you can STILL pass it on to the unvaccinated kids.

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Anonymous wrote:People tend to have a very distorted view of the risk associated with things that are new.

If 1,000 kids die of flue, nobody cares, but if 400 die from COVID, it's a crisis.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/999241558/in-kids-the-risk-of-covid-19-and-the-flu-are-similar-but-the-risk-perception-isn

HARRIS: Even a vaccinated parent can occasionally get infected with the coronavirus. There's also a small risk that the virus can pass to an unvaccinated child, and that child has an extremely small risk of getting seriously ill. To date, out of more than 74 million children in the United States, there have been about 300 COVID deaths and a few thousand serious illnesses. Hospitalization numbers look worse, but Dr. Roshni Mathew at Stanford's Children's Hospital says those numbers are inflated.

Tell me if you would - what’s the risk of lifelong disability with flu vs covid?

Or any of the other potential unknowns about the long term impact of COVID? Aren't we largely talking about another 3-6 months until a Pfizer vaccine or the like will be available for kids under 12? What's so hard about changing your behavior for just a little bit longer?

NP. Because I just don't see the evidence that says that casual vaccinated strangers masking protects kids. I would do it in a heartbeat if I thought it was useful. But the truth of the matter is that I run into kids that are too young to be vaccinated in stores and the like indoors. In those spaces, I am do not have much contact with the kid. In the unlikely event that I have an asymptomatic case of COVID now that I am vaccinated and living with vaccinated adults and teens, I just dont see how I could pass the virus to them. And even if lightening struck and I did pass to them, all evidence says that the vast majority of them will be fine. Now if my sister asks me to mask indoors while I hang out with my young nephew, I would do it. Because it is more than casual contact. The likelihood of my nephew picking up COVID from me is also very small, but its higher than for a neighborhood kid at the grocery store. This is why vaccinated people masking creates a sense of protection that is false. The only thing to do with young kids is to unfortunately continue to be mindful of social distancing. I hope the pediatric vaccine is available soon.

Anonymous wrote:I'm OP again. It's getting close to a Blue State Avenger from the looks of it. Then again, it's not like blue states emerged unscathed from the pandemic's worst days of November 2020-February 2021.

Delta seems to be succeeding where Alpha, Beta, and Gamma failed in making a breakthrough in the American market. Of course the other three did succeed in making folks kind of numb about hearing of "variants."

Interesting that some right-wingers are talking up the vaccine now. I figure under-vax'd Democratic-leaning populations (mostly POC) would have a longer tail of getting vaccinated as it seems the vaccine resistant lean Republican but the unvaxed Dems tend to have logistical problems getting vaxed. But heck, I could see this affecting at most 1-2 House races.

Are they really worried swing voters will blame them for a fourth wave? I just figured partisans would blame the other side no matter what and low-engagement voters would blame the Dems.

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NP. Because I just don't see the evidence that says that casual vaccinated strangers masking protects kids. I would do it in a heartbeat if I thought it was useful. But the truth of the matter is that I run into kids that are too young to be vaccinated in stores and the like indoors. In those spaces, I am do not have much contact with the kid. In the unlikely event that I have an asymptomatic case of COVID now that I am vaccinated and living with vaccinated adults and teens, I just dont see how I could pass the virus to them. And even if lightening struck and I did pass to them, all evidence says that the vast majority of them will be fine. Now if my sister asks me to mask indoors while I hang out with my young nephew, I would do it. Because it is more than casual contact. The likelihood of my nephew picking up COVID from me is also very small, but its higher than for a neighborhood kid at the grocery store. This is why vaccinated people masking creates a sense of protection that is false. The only thing to do with young kids is to unfortunately continue to be mindful of social distancing. I hope the pediatric vaccine is available soon.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People tend to have a very distorted view of the risk associated with things that are new.

If 1,000 kids die of flue, nobody cares, but if 400 die from COVID, it's a crisis.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/999241558/in-kids-the-risk-of-covid-19-and-the-flu-are-similar-but-the-risk-perception-isn

HARRIS: Even a vaccinated parent can occasionally get infected with the coronavirus. There's also a small risk that the virus can pass to an unvaccinated child, and that child has an extremely small risk of getting seriously ill. To date, out of more than 74 million children in the United States, there have been about 300 COVID deaths and a few thousand serious illnesses. Hospitalization numbers look worse, but Dr. Roshni Mathew at Stanford's Children's Hospital says those numbers are inflated.

Tell me if you would - what’s the risk of lifelong disability with flu vs covid?

Or any of the other potential unknowns about the long term impact of COVID? Aren't we largely talking about another 3-6 months until a Pfizer vaccine or the like will be available for kids under 12? What's so hard about changing your behavior for just a little bit longer?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People tend to have a very distorted view of the risk associated with things that are new.

If 1,000 kids die of flue, nobody cares, but if 400 die from COVID, it's a crisis.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/999241558/in-kids-the-risk-of-covid-19-and-the-flu-are-similar-but-the-risk-perception-isn

HARRIS: Even a vaccinated parent can occasionally get infected with the coronavirus. There's also a small risk that the virus can pass to an unvaccinated child, and that child has an extremely small risk of getting seriously ill. To date, out of more than 74 million children in the United States, there have been about 300 COVID deaths and a few thousand serious illnesses. Hospitalization numbers look worse, but Dr. Roshni Mathew at Stanford's Children's Hospital says those numbers are inflated.

FWIW, this is the UK

Didn't we already see this in early 2020 with China and then, Italy? We never seem to learn.


They are a few weeks ahead of the US. So unless or until we change our behavior, this will be the tweet from hospitals across the USA come August.

Anonymous wrote:People tend to have a very distorted view of the risk associated with things that are new.

If 1,000 kids die of flue, nobody cares, but if 400 die from COVID, it's a crisis.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/999241558/in-kids-the-risk-of-covid-19-and-the-flu-are-similar-but-the-risk-perception-isn

HARRIS: Even a vaccinated parent can occasionally get infected with the coronavirus. There's also a small risk that the virus can pass to an unvaccinated child, and that child has an extremely small risk of getting seriously ill. To date, out of more than 74 million children in the United States, there have been about 300 COVID deaths and a few thousand serious illnesses. Hospitalization numbers look worse, but Dr. Roshni Mathew at Stanford's Children's Hospital says those numbers are inflated.

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Go ahead and wear a mask all day long. I did it when it was necessary starting in February of last year when the fools in charge were saying it wouldn't help.

Based on what we know now about the risk of this disease today, and the fact that we have vaccinations available, masking is no longer necessary in my opinion.

But nobody is stopping you from wearing a mask all the time to help prevent spreading all the other diseases you don't seem to care about spreading to vulnerable people like the flu.

I spotted the problem here.