Anonymous
Post 02/28/2020 17:23     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
I was a PP who earlier said no way would Madison be Kevin’s baby mama/fiancée, but maybe I was wrong about that. Madison has been given a much bigger part lately than ever before. I also liked what she said to Kate at brunch in the last episode - she was so right.

I just never felt that she and Kevin had any kind of wild chemistry or attraction; if they do wind up together, it will seem very strange (and somewhat lazy) to me.

Also, wasn’t Sophie originally Kate’s best friend too, before getting together with Kevin?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2020 15:38     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if he's going to have a baby with Madison and something happens to her during the delivery and that's how he ends up being a single dad.


Do we know that Kevin was a single dad in the flash forward when everyone was gathering at the house on the hill for Rebecca? I can't remember the details from that episode.


I think it was kind of implied/assumed as there was no mention of a wife or mom, but I don't think the phrase single dad was said.

This show is going to completely tease that along. It's entirely possible that Kate and Madison (assuming Madison is actually the mom) are out doing something or even in another part of the house and it just wasn't mentioned. Until we knew that baby Jack grew up and had a partner I think we could have all assumed that when Toby said, "They're on their way," he was talking about Jack and Kate. Still could, honestly.

Of course they will. Look at how they made us believe that Randall and Beth didn't make it last season.


Please help me remember the scene in flash forward where Rebecca is probably dying and it shoes Beth in a fancy dance studio. Wasn’t something said in that scene that implied she and Randall were no longer together or am I totally making this up?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2020 15:06     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if he's going to have a baby with Madison and something happens to her during the delivery and that's how he ends up being a single dad.


Do we know that Kevin was a single dad in the flash forward when everyone was gathering at the house on the hill for Rebecca? I can't remember the details from that episode.


I think it was kind of implied/assumed as there was no mention of a wife or mom, but I don't think the phrase single dad was said.

This show is going to completely tease that along. It's entirely possible that Kate and Madison (assuming Madison is actually the mom) are out doing something or even in another part of the house and it just wasn't mentioned. Until we knew that baby Jack grew up and had a partner I think we could have all assumed that when Toby said, "They're on their way," he was talking about Jack and Kate. Still could, honestly.

Of course they will. Look at how they made us believe that Randall and Beth didn't make it last season.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2020 14:36     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if he's going to have a baby with Madison and something happens to her during the delivery and that's how he ends up being a single dad.


Do we know that Kevin was a single dad in the flash forward when everyone was gathering at the house on the hill for Rebecca? I can't remember the details from that episode.


I think it was kind of implied/assumed as there was no mention of a wife or mom, but I don't think the phrase single dad was said.

This show is going to completely tease that along. It's entirely possible that Kate and Madison (assuming Madison is actually the mom) are out doing something or even in another part of the house and it just wasn't mentioned. Until we knew that baby Jack grew up and had a partner I think we could have all assumed that when Toby said, "They're on their way," he was talking about Jack and Kate. Still could, honestly.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2020 14:30     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if he's going to have a baby with Madison and something happens to her during the delivery and that's how he ends up being a single dad.


Do we know that Kevin was a single dad in the flash forward when everyone was gathering at the house on the hill for Rebecca? I can't remember the details from that episode.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2020 12:01     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
I'm wondering if he's going to have a baby with Madison and something happens to her during the delivery and that's how he ends up being a single dad.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2020 11:50     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why did they hide the therapist's face until he end? And what were we supposed to think about her knowing Randall's birth story from his speeches? Is that supposed to be weird? I thought Randall was being sensitive to the stimulation in the room, but also that she was kind of weird.


I think they hid her face because she is a well-known voice actress and maybe they thought the audience would get a kick out of placing the voice? I’m not sure, but that’s all I could come up with. I did think it was pretty unprofessional of her to announce she had heard his birth story multiple times via his speeches - unless her point was to draw attention to the fact that he does seem to base his identity around that story. Which he does. How many times have we heard him trot it out?


I wondered about not seeing the fact too. Then I wondered if maybe it was supposed to represent Randall not really "seeing" her at that first session.

Am I the only one who REALLY liked Madison in that scene? She really had her head on straight--she gave Kate the real talk and some really useful advice that helped. I'm kind of over the whole Sophie thing, and I think the lost mobile was foreshadowing that Kevin will find happiness with something new.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2020 20:49     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
Anonymous wrote:Why did they hide the therapist's face until he end? And what were we supposed to think about her knowing Randall's birth story from his speeches? Is that supposed to be weird? I thought Randall was being sensitive to the stimulation in the room, but also that she was kind of weird.


I think they hid her face because she is a well-known voice actress and maybe they thought the audience would get a kick out of placing the voice? I’m not sure, but that’s all I could come up with. I did think it was pretty unprofessional of her to announce she had heard his birth story multiple times via his speeches - unless her point was to draw attention to the fact that he does seem to base his identity around that story. Which he does. How many times have we heard him trot it out?
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2020 15:56     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
Anonymous wrote:I now see how Randall's anxiety might be partly related to being abandoned at birth and then scooped up by Rebecca and Jack.

He has always known that he was abandoned, so there could be a hidden feeling of not being good enough and that he needed to "earn his keep" or stay in good graces with the people who took him in.

Although, from my own experience with kids, I think anxiety can just be how you are hard-wired (innate). But, I think the psychologist is probably working him toward seeing his perfectionistic tendencies as being connected to abandonment.

And agree with a PP who pointed out that there will be jealousy b/t Randall and Kevin about who is coming to Rebecca's rescue in her declining state... and that is likely why they are not talking in the flash-forward that we saw at the end of last season.

I was getting really tired of Kate crapping on everything Toby did (when she dismissed his efforts in the garage). I'm glad she came around and they worked it out.


I think Randall just is not going to be able to handle that he's not in charge. He's always been the one that will get things done/make things happen. I can almost write the argument in my head.

Also, I found it really weird that none of them seemed really fazed or upset when the police brought Rebecca back. Wouldn't you be freaking out? And how is an isolated cabin within walking distance of a park? Or am I mixing up my timelines?
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2020 15:14     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
I now see how Randall's anxiety might be partly related to being abandoned at birth and then scooped up by Rebecca and Jack.

He has always known that he was abandoned, so there could be a hidden feeling of not being good enough and that he needed to "earn his keep" or stay in good graces with the people who took him in.

Although, from my own experience with kids, I think anxiety can just be how you are hard-wired (innate). But, I think the psychologist is probably working him toward seeing his perfectionistic tendencies as being connected to abandonment.

And agree with a PP who pointed out that there will be jealousy b/t Randall and Kevin about who is coming to Rebecca's rescue in her declining state... and that is likely why they are not talking in the flash-forward that we saw at the end of last season.

I was getting really tired of Kate crapping on everything Toby did (when she dismissed his efforts in the garage). I'm glad she came around and they worked it out.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2020 14:17     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
I related so much to Randall this episode. First - I completely agree about the therapist's crappy office. Like, have some pride lady.
Secondly, I have always felt pressure (often self-subscribed) to manage everything in my family and to be the responsible one. It's been that way since I was about 13. I don't get anxiety like Randall, but I definitely have felt like my family would fall apart without me. I'm in therapy now and one of the things that she's helped me see was that I am not the center of everything and I am not responsible for everything. Slowly I'm making progress which has definitely relieved some of my stress.

Man, I love this show.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2020 12:52     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
Why did they hide the therapist's face until he end? And what were we supposed to think about her knowing Randall's birth story from his speeches? Is that supposed to be weird? I thought Randall was being sensitive to the stimulation in the room, but also that she was kind of weird.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2020 08:36     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
Anonymous wrote:I agree with the PP who suggested Rebecca may prefer having Kevin in charge of her care. I find Randall exhausting and imagine he would be so intense to deal with, especially around sensitive medical issues. He truly is very controlling - at least he knows that about himself. I so much prefer seeing Kevin with Rebecca, keeping things like and easy, as opposed to Randall lecturing everyone about everything.


I really loved his wife's lecturer to him that it's not all about him, that his anxiety and issues are full-on affecting her, and he was like, "uh, wow, I had no idea." It really shows how self-absorbed he is (I say that in a nonjudgmental way, it's an illness).
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2020 08:21     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
Anonymous wrote:I agree with the PP who suggested Rebecca may prefer having Kevin in charge of her care. I find Randall exhausting and imagine he would be so intense to deal with, especially around sensitive medical issues. He truly is very controlling - at least he knows that about himself. I so much prefer seeing Kevin with Rebecca, keeping things like and easy, as opposed to Randall lecturing everyone about everything.

Kevin would be better. Alzheimer's is so unpredictable. There are no medicines or schedules that make any difference, you need someone who can roll with it.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2020 23:34     Subject: This Is Us, Season 4
I agree with the PP who suggested Rebecca may prefer having Kevin in charge of her care. I find Randall exhausting and imagine he would be so intense to deal with, especially around sensitive medical issues. He truly is very controlling - at least he knows that about himself. I so much prefer seeing Kevin with Rebecca, keeping things like and easy, as opposed to Randall lecturing everyone about everything.