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Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

You clearly have anger and jealousy issues.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

Because every white kid just glides right into elite colleges. Here we go with the race card again. And you know the entire back story of every white person you know well enough to say that you were more honest and hard working than they were? Wow! You have quite the chip on your shoulder!

+1.

Public data shows that actually it is much harder for qualified Asian Americans and whites to get in, as a result of AA racial discrimination.

But it's hard to shallow for some.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

X1,000,000. I'm not black but I fully acknowledge that the deck is completely stacked in favor of rich, white families, including the cheating.

The people that are pissed are the Test Prepper that have spent their whole lives as strivers to find out while they were cheating the system with tutors and test prep they were out played.

Sounds like you’re pissed because you can’t afford a private tutor for your child.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

Because every white kid just glides right into elite colleges. Here we go with the race card again. And you know the entire back story of every white person you know well enough to say that you were more honest and hard working than they were? Wow! You have quite the chip on your shoulder!

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel bad for the kids - in some cases they probably didn't even know this was happening, and now they are screwed.

I think Buckingham's son was totally blindsided. Also are indictments sealed until release? So did the parents in the scandal have time to prepare before this morning?

Not that I'm shedding tears for them but a LOT of them have open social media right now. Too bad proud mom is heading to the slammer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

X1,000,000. I'm not black but I fully acknowledge that the deck is completely stacked in favor of rich, white families, including the cheating.

The people that are pissed are the Test Prepper that have spent their whole lives as strivers to find out while they were cheating the system with tutors and test prep they were out played.

Sounds like you’re pissed because you can’t afford a private tutor for your child.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

Because every white kid just glides right into elite colleges. Here we go with the race card again. And you know the entire back story of every white person you know well enough to say that you were more honest and hard working than they were? Wow! You have quite the chip on your shoulder!

+1.

Public data shows that actually it is much harder for qualified Asian Americans and whites to get in, as a result of AA racial discrimination.

But it's hard to shallow for some.

not if you use their 1st test score.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why they need to bribe? Why not just donate like everyone else does?

Well in the penn situation, it’s a function of price.

It costs about 2-4 million in giving if you want your kid in at Penn.

But bribing a coach to put a recruit tag on you can be had as low as 75-100k.

Coaches in the Ivy League are poorly paid so are ripe targets for bribes.

Good point. You don't see any SEC football coaches doing this (The money goes the other way).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

X1,000,000. I'm not black but I fully acknowledge that the deck is completely stacked in favor of rich, white families, including the cheating.

The people that are pissed are the Test Prepper that have spent their whole lives as strivers to find out while they were cheating the system with tutors and test prep they were out played.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the downside of holistic admissions. Too easy to manipulate the results.

Yet another reason why schools should no longer be allowed to offer preferences or scholarships to athletes.

It wasn't just athleticism. These parents paid people to take the SAT and ACTs in place of their kids and submit those scores in the admissions packet.

They'll get them on all counts of fraud.

How is that even possible now? I mean, when I took the SAT (graduated HS in 2000), my ID was scrutinized because I'd gained about 40 lbs. after an injury that required me to be on steroids. My face shape really changed and I didn't look anything like my school ID or official ID.

I wonder if proctors were also part of the bribery to look the other way.

Anonymous wrote:This conversation is taking me back. I spent most of my junior year in high school practicing for a local (major metropolitan area) music competition which I didn't win. I was a finalist, but the girl that won had parents who had literally rigged the competition in her favor. Every one else had to perform works from a certain repertoire list -- except her. She showed up and played different music and apparently her parents had made a deal with the university that hosted the competition and the judges because she "needed to win" this competition in order to get into a conservatory and the rest of us were just little Asian kids who wanted to go to medical school, so you know . . .

What I remember was her entitlement, even after the scheme was uncovered -- like of course this prize should have been given to her and not to us poor kids who actually practiced. I remember being really bitter that I had given up so much. I didn't go on vacation with my family at Christmas but stayed home to practice. I didn't go to the prom because I wanted to stay home and practice. And this entitled girl didn't miss out on a single activity, not a prom or a vacation.

I got over it, but always assumed it was a bug, not a feature of American life. Kind of sad to realize that indeed the deck has always been stacked against us hard working Joes and that there is an entire group of people who believe that the rules don't apply to them, because they don't.

Anonymous wrote:This conversation is taking me back. I spent most of my junior year in high school practicing for a local (major metropolitan area) music competition which I didn't win. I was a finalist, but the girl that won had parents who had literally rigged the competition in her favor. Every one else had to perform works from a certain repertoire list -- except her. She showed up and played different music and apparently her parents had made a deal with the university that hosted the competition and the judges because she "needed to win" this competition in order to get into a conservatory and the rest of us were just little Asian kids who wanted to go to medical school, so you know . . .

What I remember was her entitlement, even after the scheme was uncovered -- like of course this prize should have been given to her and not to us poor kids who actually practiced. I remember being really bitter that I had given up so much. I didn't go on vacation with my family at Christmas but stayed home to practice. I didn't go to the prom because I wanted to stay home and practice. And this entitled girl didn't miss out on a single activity, not a prom or a vacation.

I got over it, but always assumed it was a bug, not a feature of American life. Kind of sad to realize that indeed the deck has always been stacked against us hard working Joes and that there is an entire group of people who believe that the rules don't apply to them, because they don't.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

Because every white kid just glides right into elite colleges. Here we go with the race card again. And you know the entire back story of every white person you know well enough to say that you were more honest and hard working than they were? Wow! You have quite the chip on your shoulder!

+1.

Public data shows that actually it is much harder for qualified Asian Americans and whites to get in, as a result of AA racial discrimination.

But it's hard to shallow for some.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why they need to bribe? Why not just donate like everyone else does?

Well in the penn situation, it’s a function of price.

It costs about 2-4 million in giving if you want your kid in at Penn.

But bribing a coach to put a recruit tag on you can be had as low as 75-100k.

Coaches in the Ivy League are poorly paid so are ripe targets for bribes.

Good point. You don't see any SEC football coaches doing this (The money goes the other way).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only people who are surprised by this white people who have been lying to themselves all this time about this so-called “merit” that they think explains why they have such a leg up over minorities. Speaking as a black woman who was a national merit scholar, I worked a lot harder with a lot more honesty to get where I am today than my white peers did.

X1,000,000. I'm not black but I fully acknowledge that the deck is completely stacked in favor of rich, white families, including the cheating.

The people that are pissed are the Test Prepper that have spent their whole lives as strivers to find out while they were cheating the system with tutors and test prep they were out played.

I'm not super pissed, and I will use tutors for my kids when they need it. Especially for the SAT/ACT. Because I can afford it.

I didn't make up the rules of the game, just playing the game.

And guess what? When my kids need to take the LSAT or the MCAT? They'll probably pay for a tutor or a prep class then too. Shocker, I know!!