Anonymous wrote:What grade does HS start in Frederick? 5th grade?

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

You are really asking why some teenagers see upside in playing for their HS? Wow

Ok, so I'll also ask my teen what the upside of driving a car full of loaded kids is? Or whats the upside of going out till 1am on a school night. Certainly asking the HS kid if they understand the upside of 30 games in 3 months with one day a week off during that time frame is the right course of action. In general it is pretty solid advice to just let teenagers make all of their decisions without guidance.

Right - because playing with your friends, classmates and potentially being a hero for your school and community is the same as dangerous driving and late partying.

You win the DA parent of the year award. You should home school little Mia through HS so you can do Rondos in the backyard at lunchtime. LMAO

Ohhh High School "Hero"!

That is the best you've got? Still looking back, trying to recapture glory?

Dude are you serious? LMAO. No way you have a high school kid. You just don't get it.

Oh I get it, I just don't subscribe to the notion that HS Soccer is the peak of anything and that should be awarded any significant social status because it is not good soccer. HS soccer does not represent the best that the sport can offer. That for most club players not being able to make varsity would be considered more of an embarrassment than making varsity is considered an accomplishment.

Nobody goes to the games. The games are hack fests. The style is awful. The players are average. In short I guess if you play in ECNL HS soccer might just be the pinnacle.

The best the sport can offer is what? The Olympics or World Cup? Sorry to tell you that your DD won't make it. Especially not with you as her overbearing parent.

Don't play HS sports then. I don't care. But if you don't see how OTHER kids might want that then you are just dense. And there are hundreds and hundreds of ECNL/HS players each year that join D1 college teams so your pinnacle comment is stupid.

My kid does play HS sports, just not soccer. Why waste the time playing something at a lower level that kid already plays? If you have the time available, play something different. Play LAX or run track instead. Why waste time on a redundant activity of lower quality than is previously experienced?

If your DD is so awesome at soccer stop punching down and challenge her in another sport. DA has no rules against playing HS sports in general, just not soccer.

So your DD plays DA soccer and also plays other sports in HS? But you are anti-HS soccer? Sure thing. Amazing she has so much time on her hands...

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Anonymous wrote:Very confused by all this. Im a 2008 parent here (be gentle) im naive so if I want to try out for Washington Spirit later in VA, will it not exist anymore? Great falls WILL be WSVA? Im really confused by the comments should I just go to ECNL when the time comes? Seems like a war out here and im a deer in a headlights.

You are correct in that there is a war here amongst a few parents who enjoy spreading misinformation to elevate their clubs and diminish others. Spirit, BRYC, and McLean are notable targets for abuse. These posters often post incorrect information that is later proven false, and their aim to to try to steer people like you.

My advice is to speak with he club TDs directly to assess the programs and voice any concerns. The rumors you read here are in the complete garbage category in almost all cases, based on past history, especially where the top targets are concerned.

True of every club but spirit. Just look at their results.

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

You are really asking why some teenagers see upside in playing for their HS? Wow

Ok, so I'll also ask my teen what the upside of driving a car full of loaded kids is? Or whats the upside of going out till 1am on a school night. Certainly asking the HS kid if they understand the upside of 30 games in 3 months with one day a week off during that time frame is the right course of action. In general it is pretty solid advice to just let teenagers make all of their decisions without guidance.

Right - because playing with your friends, classmates and potentially being a hero for your school and community is the same as dangerous driving and late partying.

You win the DA parent of the year award. You should home school little Mia through HS so you can do Rondos in the backyard at lunchtime. LMAO

Ohhh High School "Hero"!

That is the best you've got? Still looking back, trying to recapture glory?

Dude are you serious? LMAO. No way you have a high school kid. You just don't get it.

Oh I get it, I just don't subscribe to the notion that HS Soccer is the peak of anything and that should be awarded any significant social status because it is not good soccer. HS soccer does not represent the best that the sport can offer. That for most club players not being able to make varsity would be considered more of an embarrassment than making varsity is considered an accomplishment.

Nobody goes to the games. The games are hack fests. The style is awful. The players are average. In short I guess if you play in ECNL HS soccer might just be the pinnacle.

The fake bravado is telling

What is telling is that you have to defend HS Soccer in order to promote ECNL.

If your player is only interested in playing a season or two, junior and senior years due to actual impact and role, then where is the value in paying ECNL money for a 6 month league? If your value of HS soccer is so high you certainly don't need ECNL to get onto Varsity.

You are paying a lot of money to essentially have your HS soccer coach prepare your DD for two spring college showcases.

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

You are really asking why some teenagers see upside in playing for their HS? Wow

Ok, so I'll also ask my teen what the upside of driving a car full of loaded kids is? Or whats the upside of going out till 1am on a school night. Certainly asking the HS kid if they understand the upside of 30 games in 3 months with one day a week off during that time frame is the right course of action. In general it is pretty solid advice to just let teenagers make all of their decisions without guidance.

Right - because playing with your friends, classmates and potentially being a hero for your school and community is the same as dangerous driving and late partying.

You win the DA parent of the year award. You should home school little Mia through HS so you can do Rondos in the backyard at lunchtime. LMAO

Ohhh High School "Hero"!

That is the best you've got? Still looking back, trying to recapture glory?

Dude are you serious? LMAO. No way you have a high school kid. You just don't get it.

Oh I get it, I just don't subscribe to the notion that HS Soccer is the peak of anything and that should be awarded any significant social status because it is not good soccer. HS soccer does not represent the best that the sport can offer. That for most club players not being able to make varsity would be considered more of an embarrassment than making varsity is considered an accomplishment.

Nobody goes to the games. The games are hack fests. The style is awful. The players are average. In short I guess if you play in ECNL HS soccer might just be the pinnacle.

The best the sport can offer is what? The Olympics or World Cup? Sorry to tell you that your DD won't make it. Especially not with you as her overbearing parent.

Don't play HS sports then. I don't care. But if you don't see how OTHER kids might want that then you are just dense. And there are hundreds and hundreds of ECNL/HS players each year that join D1 college teams so your pinnacle comment is stupid.

My kid does play HS sports, just not soccer. Why waste the time playing something at a lower level that kid already plays? If you have the time available, play something different. Play LAX or run track instead. Why waste time on a redundant activity of lower quality than is previously experienced?

If your DD is so awesome at soccer stop punching down and challenge her in another sport. DA has no rules against playing HS sports in general, just not soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

You are really asking why some teenagers see upside in playing for their HS? Wow

Ok, so I'll also ask my teen what the upside of driving a car full of loaded kids is? Or whats the upside of going out till 1am on a school night. Certainly asking the HS kid if they understand the upside of 30 games in 3 months with one day a week off during that time frame is the right course of action. In general it is pretty solid advice to just let teenagers make all of their decisions without guidance.

Right - because playing with your friends, classmates and potentially being a hero for your school and community is the same as dangerous driving and late partying.

You win the DA parent of the year award. You should home school little Mia through HS so you can do Rondos in the backyard at lunchtime. LMAO

Ohhh High School "Hero"!

That is the best you've got? Still looking back, trying to recapture glory?

Dude are you serious? LMAO. No way you have a high school kid. You just don't get it.

Oh I get it, I just don't subscribe to the notion that HS Soccer is the peak of anything and that should be awarded any significant social status because it is not good soccer. HS soccer does not represent the best that the sport can offer. That for most club players not being able to make varsity would be considered more of an embarrassment than making varsity is considered an accomplishment.

Nobody goes to the games. The games are hack fests. The style is awful. The players are average. In short I guess if you play in ECNL HS soccer might just be the pinnacle.

The best the sport can offer is what? The Olympics or World Cup? Sorry to tell you that your DD won't make it. Especially not with you as her overbearing parent.

Don't play HS sports then. I don't care. But if you don't see how OTHER kids might want that then you are just dense. And there are hundreds and hundreds of ECNL/HS players each year that join D1 college teams so your pinnacle comment is stupid.

My kid does play HS sports, just not soccer. Why waste the time playing something at a lower level that kid already plays? If you have the time available, play something different. Play LAX or run track instead. Why waste time on a redundant activity of lower quality than is previously experienced?

If your DD is so awesome at soccer stop punching down and challenge her in another sport. DA has no rules against playing HS sports in general, just not soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:Very confused by all this. Im a 2008 parent here (be gentle) im naive so if I want to try out for Washington Spirit later in VA, will it not exist anymore? Great falls WILL be WSVA? Im really confused by the comments should I just go to ECNL when the time comes? Seems like a war out here and im a deer in a headlights.

You are correct in that there is a war here amongst a few parents who enjoy spreading misinformation to elevate their clubs and diminish others. Spirit, BRYC, and McLean are notable targets for abuse. These posters often post incorrect information that is later proven false, and their aim to to try to steer people like you.

My advice is to speak with he club TDs directly to assess the programs and voice any concerns. The rumors you read here are in the complete garbage category in almost all cases, based on past history, especially where the top targets are concerned.

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

You are really asking why some teenagers see upside in playing for their HS? Wow

Ok, so I'll also ask my teen what the upside of driving a car full of loaded kids is? Or whats the upside of going out till 1am on a school night. Certainly asking the HS kid if they understand the upside of 30 games in 3 months with one day a week off during that time frame is the right course of action. In general it is pretty solid advice to just let teenagers make all of their decisions without guidance.

Right - because playing with your friends, classmates and potentially being a hero for your school and community is the same as dangerous driving and late partying.

You win the DA parent of the year award. You should home school little Mia through HS so you can do Rondos in the backyard at lunchtime. LMAO

Ohhh High School "Hero"!

That is the best you've got? Still looking back, trying to recapture glory?

Dude are you serious? LMAO. No way you have a high school kid. You just don't get it.

Oh I get it, I just don't subscribe to the notion that HS Soccer is the peak of anything and that should be awarded any significant social status because it is not good soccer. HS soccer does not represent the best that the sport can offer. That for most club players not being able to make varsity would be considered more of an embarrassment than making varsity is considered an accomplishment.

Nobody goes to the games. The games are hack fests. The style is awful. The players are average. In short I guess if you play in ECNL HS soccer might just be the pinnacle.

The best the sport can offer is what? The Olympics or World Cup? Sorry to tell you that your DD won't make it. Especially not with you as her overbearing parent.

Don't play HS sports then. I don't care. But if you don't see how OTHER kids might want that then you are just dense. And there are hundreds and hundreds of ECNL/HS players each year that join D1 college teams so your pinnacle comment is stupid.

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No you misunderstood. What I mean is that HS soccer does not display all of the BEST players in the area that it could. Not even close. The coaching does not promote the quality of play that would be possible if the best players actually played on the teams.

The coaches are often poor and the players are average. HS soccer is not the same at representing the top talent as Football, Basketball, Baseball, track, Lacrosse and other HS sports offer.

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

You are really asking why some teenagers see upside in playing for their HS? Wow

Ok, so I'll also ask my teen what the upside of driving a car full of loaded kids is? Or whats the upside of going out till 1am on a school night. Certainly asking the HS kid if they understand the upside of 30 games in 3 months with one day a week off during that time frame is the right course of action. In general it is pretty solid advice to just let teenagers make all of their decisions without guidance.

Right - because playing with your friends, classmates and potentially being a hero for your school and community is the same as dangerous driving and late partying.

You win the DA parent of the year award. You should home school little Mia through HS so you can do Rondos in the backyard at lunchtime. LMAO

Ohhh High School "Hero"!

That is the best you've got? Still looking back, trying to recapture glory?

Dude are you serious? LMAO. No way you have a high school kid. You just don't get it.

Oh I get it, I just don't subscribe to the notion that HS Soccer is the peak of anything and that should be awarded any significant social status because it is not good soccer. HS soccer does not represent the best that the sport can offer. That for most club players not being able to make varsity would be considered more of an embarrassment than making varsity is considered an accomplishment.

Nobody goes to the games. The games are hack fests. The style is awful. The players are average. In short I guess if you play in ECNL HS soccer might just be the pinnacle.

The best the sport can offer is what? The Olympics or World Cup? Sorry to tell you that your DD won't make it. Especially not with you as her overbearing parent.

Don't play HS sports then. I don't care. But if you don't see how OTHER kids might want that then you are just dense. And there are hundreds and hundreds of ECNL/HS players each year that join D1 college teams so your pinnacle comment is stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

You are really asking why some teenagers see upside in playing for their HS? Wow

Ok, so I'll also ask my teen what the upside of driving a car full of loaded kids is? Or whats the upside of going out till 1am on a school night. Certainly asking the HS kid if they understand the upside of 30 games in 3 months with one day a week off during that time frame is the right course of action. In general it is pretty solid advice to just let teenagers make all of their decisions without guidance.

Right - because playing with your friends, classmates and potentially being a hero for your school and community is the same as dangerous driving and late partying.

You win the DA parent of the year award. You should home school little Mia through HS so you can do Rondos in the backyard at lunchtime. LMAO

Ohhh High School "Hero"!

That is the best you've got? Still looking back, trying to recapture glory?

Dude are you serious? LMAO. No way you have a high school kid. You just don't get it.

Oh I get it, I just don't subscribe to the notion that HS Soccer is the peak of anything and that should be awarded any significant social status because it is not good soccer. HS soccer does not represent the best that the sport can offer. That for most club players not being able to make varsity would be considered more of an embarrassment than making varsity is considered an accomplishment.

Nobody goes to the games. The games are hack fests. The style is awful. The players are average. In short I guess if you play in ECNL HS soccer might just be the pinnacle.

The fake bravado is telling

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

You are really asking why some teenagers see upside in playing for their HS? Wow

Ok, so I'll also ask my teen what the upside of driving a car full of loaded kids is? Or whats the upside of going out till 1am on a school night. Certainly asking the HS kid if they understand the upside of 30 games in 3 months with one day a week off during that time frame is the right course of action. In general it is pretty solid advice to just let teenagers make all of their decisions without guidance.

Right - because playing with your friends, classmates and potentially being a hero for your school and community is the same as dangerous driving and late partying.

You win the DA parent of the year award. You should home school little Mia through HS so you can do Rondos in the backyard at lunchtime. LMAO

Ohhh High School "Hero"!

That is the best you've got? Still looking back, trying to recapture glory?

Dude are you serious? LMAO. No way you have a high school kid. You just don't get it.

Oh I get it, I just don't subscribe to the notion that HS Soccer is the peak of anything and that should be awarded any significant social status because it is not good soccer. HS soccer does not represent the best that the sport can offer. That for most club players not being able to make varsity would be considered more of an embarrassment than making varsity is considered an accomplishment.

Nobody goes to the games. The games are hack fests. The style is awful. The players are average. In short I guess if you play in ECNL HS soccer might just be the pinnacle.