Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:53     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:Black person here. Keep in mind that this is an anonymous forum, so it's impossible to know whether people are who they say they are. IRL, I honestly have not heard of any resentment towards Jews by other AAs.

I grew up in the South and did not really know any Jewish people growing up, never learned about the Holocaust in school, and really didn't meet any self-identified Jews until grad school. My Jewish classmates basically schooled me on a lot of things at that time. At worst I've possibly detected indifference towards Jews among a segment of AAs (again, particularly in the South) but not outright anti-Semitism, especially among people who grew up as I did in predominantly AA settings where people don't know Jews or know much about their history, and some may see them as just another group of white people. However, I currently live in a black and Jewish neighborhood in DC where everyone gets along wonderfully. I like that our kids are growing up learning about each other's cultures, history, holidays, etc.

Also, please keep in mind that the people who post here are not necessarily representative of a community's sentiments towards a particular group of people--opinions on the Internet come with a large selection bias.


I am a [liberal] Jew who also grew up in the South. I didn't have meaningful interactions with large numbers of black people until I became a personal trainer and started working in a gym in my 20s. I think this may be different for blacks and Jews who grew up in cities where both groups had large numbers and lived together in working-class communities in the 1920s-60s. In the South, the Jewish population has always been very small, outside of a handful of large cities.

I do think it gives me a different perspective, however, when I hear the argument that white people have all been turning a blind eye to police brutality and other blatant discrimination in the black community. Until the advent of the internet, we really didn't hear much about it. Black people experienced it every day, but white people only heard about particularly egregious incidents in their communities. A lot of people of color don't believe that; they believe because the discrimination was so prevalent all these years, we white people just didn't care enough about it to fight it. But you readily admit you knew little or nothing about Jews and anti-semitism because you hadn't experienced the world as a Jew or as someone who interacted much with Jewish people. Why is it so hard to believe that a lot of white people, including white liberals, are only in the last few years being "schooled" (as this PP calls it) in the extent and brutality of discrimination against AAs and people of color in the US? The internet has allowed us to see these incidents in bulk, in real time, and from all over the US, even if we don't personally know a lot of African Americans.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:45     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:I get that more and more swastikas being spray painted on synagogues is distressing. I get that more and more Jews being beat up by hateful bigots is disturbing. But I’d be remiss not to point out that those increasing hate crimes are being committed by civilians not the state and it was the state that carried out the Holocaust in 1930’s Germany.

Is the state still persecuting you in America today?

You ever had somebody call the cops on you simply because you’re Jewish? You ever had the police tell you and your kippot wearing friends to “move along or we’re going to arrest you” simply because you’re Jewish? You ever had an officer pull you over because of the Star of David decal on your SUV? You ever had a judge hand down a harsh sentence on you because your last name denotes that you’re Jewish and turn you over to a corrupt criminal justice system that profits from your people’s pain? You ever have your congressional district redrawn to dilute the value of your vote just because of it’s large Jewish population? You ever had problems trying to cast your vote because there are no polling places in your predominantly Jewish community or you ever had strict voter ID laws put in place in your community to prevent you from exercising your Constitutional right?

Those are all examples of the state coming down on a people. It’s all kinds of nutjobs and assholes out here among the general populace perpetuating discrimination against Jews, yes, but the state isn’t coming after you today with guns drawn ready to kill you and cuffs out eager to compromise your freedoms like in 1930’s Germany.

No, today the state is coming after people of color with guns drawn and cuffs out and when it’s the state doing the discriminating that’s what allows Holocausts to happen.


1. It didn't start out as the State in Germany. It started out as bands of bigots who organized and got elected to office. You know, like the kind of people who elected Donald Trump and them marched in Charlottesville.

2. No, Jews do not have much to fear right now, today, from state institutions designed to protect citizens. Black people do, and that is a bigger problem, right now, today.

When Douglas high school was shot up, very little attention was paid to the fact that it has a huge Jewish population, and the shooter hated Jews. Even those media-savvy kids knew a focus on anti-semitism as a motive would lessen sympathy for their cause, at the same time they were using that position to also address gun violence in communities of color. They were speaking to left-leaning Americans, and they attempted to fold in communities of color while down-playing Jewishness. That would not have happened 50 years ago.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:40     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Wow, I had no idea the people I have been standing side-by-side with for all of these years had so much anger towards me.

-Signed, liberal Jew.

Wow! I am SO glad to hear a liberal Jew you say this. All I am seeing on this site is a seething resentment and anger from blacks toward Jews, and I too have done much to help black people - including generous donations to a program that helps poor black children in particular. (Even more ironic is that when you bring up Jewish generosity toward blacks, you're hit with more anger about patronizing attitudes and comments like "so you Jews think we blacks need help? Well we don't need help from YOU!"

This case with Trayon White has revealed the seething hostility - yes, antisemtism - from blacks toward Jews. I suspected it existed to some degree, but what I've seen here goes far beyond.

Are you truly sure you are reacting to the sentiments of black people? I'm a black male and I have posted repeatedly that White was dead wrong and he should resign. I've seen posts were other black people said the same.

Sockpuppets have a real presence on this and other internet forums - for the purpose of fanning flames and division. They are BUSY.

All I'm saying is please be careful and discerning about who/what you think you are responding to on this and other online/anonymous forums.

I appreciate your post, and it's possible that the people showing themselves as angry and antisemtitc black males - which they do in their posts - are not who they pretend to be. Still, the hatred and resentment they exoress is so visceral at a gut level that I tend to believe it is real.

That said, you'll note that I did not say I am reconsidering my donations to the program helping poor black children, as I don't want to punish children for the prejudice of their parents. Still, it does take discipline for me to continue my support when that help is attacked as being "patronizing." I'm not asking for accolades for donating to black causes, but I don't expect to be attacked for it either.

Finally, your poat provides nice counterpoint to the seeming black-hatred-for-Jews posts I've been seeing, and is very reassuring. Thank you.


I'm a 50 year old black male. I was raised in the South. I went to HBCUs for undergrad and graduate school in different parts of the country. NOT ONCE, in any of those places, did I come across ANY anti-Semitism.

On the other hand, in all of those settings - the South and the HBCUs - it was commonplace for black people to discuss its plight, the cause of which was largely believed stemmed from systemic discrimination from white people. Jews just did not (and still do not) factor into these discussions.


9:06 here, late 30s black woman from the South who also attended an HBCU for undergrad. Agree with these sentiments.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:36     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, I had no idea the people I have been standing side-by-side with for all of these years had so much anger towards me.

-Signed, liberal Jew.

Wow! I am SO glad to hear a liberal Jew you say this. All I am seeing on this site is a seething resentment and anger from blacks toward Jews, and I too have done much to help black people - including generous donations to a program that helps poor black children in particular. (Even more ironic is that when you bring up Jewish generosity toward blacks, you're hit with more anger about patronizing attitudes and comments like "so you Jews think we blacks need help? Well we don't need help from YOU!"

This case with Trayon White has revealed the seething hostility - yes, antisemtism - from blacks toward Jews. I suspected it existed to some degree, but what I've seen here goes far beyond.

Are you truly sure you are reacting to the sentiments of black people? I'm a black male and I have posted repeatedly that White was dead wrong and he should resign. I've seen posts were other black people said the same.

Sockpuppets have a real presence on this and other internet forums - for the purpose of fanning flames and division. They are BUSY.

All I'm saying is please be careful and discerning about who/what you think you are responding to on this and other online/anonymous forums.

I appreciate your post, and it's possible that the people showing themselves as angry and antisemtitc black males - which they do in their posts - are not who they pretend to be. Still, the hatred and resentment they exoress is so visceral at a gut level that I tend to believe it is real.

That said, you'll note that I did not say I am reconsidering my donations to the program helping poor black children, as I don't want to punish children for the prejudice of their parents. Still, it does take discipline for me to continue my support when that help is attacked as being "patronizing." I'm not asking for accolades for donating to black causes, but I don't expect to be attacked for it either.

Finally, your poat provides nice counterpoint to the seeming black-hatred-for-Jews posts I've been seeing, and is very reassuring. Thank you.


I'm a 50 year old black male. I was raised in the South. I went to HBCUs for undergrad and graduate school in different parts of the country. NOT ONCE, in any of those places, did I come across ANY anti-Semitism.

On the other hand, in all of those settings - the South and the HBCUs - it was commonplace for black people to discuss its plight, the cause of which was largely believed stemmed from systemic discrimination from white people. Jews just did not (and still do not) factor into these discussions.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:30     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Wow, I had no idea the people I have been standing side-by-side with for all of these years had so much anger towards me.

-Signed, liberal Jew.

Wow! I am SO glad to hear a liberal Jew you say this. All I am seeing on this site is a seething resentment and anger from blacks toward Jews, and I too have done much to help black people - including generous donations to a program that helps poor black children in particular. (Even more ironic is that when you bring up Jewish generosity toward blacks, you're hit with more anger about patronizing attitudes and comments like "so you Jews think we blacks need help? Well we don't need help from YOU!"

This case with Trayon White has revealed the seething hostility - yes, antisemtism - from blacks toward Jews. I suspected it existed to some degree, but what I've seen here goes far beyond.


I am neither black nor Jewish but am also shocked by the venom displayed on this thread.

Serious question: is there any possibility these are russian trolls trying to sow unrest and hatred amongst us. That is the only thought that gives me some comfort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmpWVuCb8s (How Russian Trolls operate)

It would be nice to think so, but the mod himself has said he sees no evidence of Russian trolls in this site.

Unfortunatlely, I think the venom here expressed by blacks toward Jews is real.

^I'm concerned that this poster seems hell-bent on making this a "blacks against Jews" discussion.

From what I can gather, this seems to be a single poster ranting about the plight of black people in America vs other minorities. Trying to make broader, by saying it's a blacks against Jews issue seems suspicious.

Again, I think we need to be careful not to get baited, one way or another.

Is it possible that the angry rants against Jews throughout this forum is from just one black man, intent on driving more division beween blacks and Jews?

We need more black people to come out and say that Trayon White is wrong and should resign, and did the black man upthread a couple of posts.


Isn't it funny how we've quickly reached the conclusion that it must be a BLACK MAN . Hopefully you now see the pertinence of previous posters arguments . It can't be black woman , a Caucasian or any other minority , nope it has tombe a BLACK MAN . Thanks for proving the point , now argue with your keyboard

because he SAID he was a black man!
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:29     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, I had no idea the people I have been standing side-by-side with for all of these years had so much anger towards me.

-Signed, liberal Jew.


No matter how many times you peddle the side-by-side argument , it doesn't change the facts on the ground .Respect is a two way street , when you insist on having people see things your way and choose to be dismiss their perspective . Expect a blowback , you've never respected them to begin with .

What is with this "how many times you peddle" business? There is more than one poster sharing the same views. To my ears, that sounded like a completely new poster, actually.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:26     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, I had no idea the people I have been standing side-by-side with for all of these years had so much anger towards me.

-Signed, liberal Jew.

Wow! I am SO glad to hear a liberal Jew you say this. All I am seeing on this site is a seething resentment and anger from blacks toward Jews, and I too have done much to help black people - including generous donations to a program that helps poor black children in particular. (Even more ironic is that when you bring up Jewish generosity toward blacks, you're hit with more anger about patronizing attitudes and comments like "so you Jews think we blacks need help? Well we don't need help from YOU!"

This case with Trayon White has revealed the seething hostility - yes, antisemtism - from blacks toward Jews. I suspected it existed to some degree, but what I've seen here goes far beyond.


I am neither black nor Jewish but am also shocked by the venom displayed on this thread.

Serious question: is there any possibility these are russian trolls trying to sow unrest and hatred amongst us. That is the only thought that gives me some comfort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmpWVuCb8s (How Russian Trolls operate)

It would be nice to think so, but the mod himself has said he sees no evidence of Russian trolls in this site.

Unfortunatlely, I think the venom here expressed by blacks toward Jews is real.

^I'm concerned that this poster seems hell-bent on making this a "blacks against Jews" discussion.

From what I can gather, this seems to be a single poster ranting about the plight of black people in America vs other minorities. Trying to make broader, by saying it's a blacks against Jews issue seems suspicious.

Again, I think we need to be careful not to get baited, one way or another.

Is it possible that the angry rants against Jews throughout this forum is from just one black man, intent on driving more division beween blacks and Jews?

We need more black people to come out and say that Trayon White is wrong and should resign, and did the black man upthread a couple of posts.


Isn't it funny how we've quickly reached the conclusion that it must be a BLACK MAN . Hopefully you now see the pertinence of previous posters arguments . It can't be black woman , a Caucasian or any other minority , nope it has tombe a BLACK MAN . Thanks for proving the point , now argue with your keyboard
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:23     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:Wow, I had no idea the people I have been standing side-by-side with for all of these years had so much anger towards me.

-Signed, liberal Jew.


No matter how many times you peddle the side-by-side argument , it doesn't change the facts on the ground .Respect is a two way street , when you insist on having people see things your way and choose to be dismiss their perspective . Expect a blowback , you've never respected them to begin with .
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:15     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, I had no idea the people I have been standing side-by-side with for all of these years had so much anger towards me.

-Signed, liberal Jew.

Wow! I am SO glad to hear a liberal Jew you say this. All I am seeing on this site is a seething resentment and anger from blacks toward Jews, and I too have done much to help black people - including generous donations to a program that helps poor black children in particular. (Even more ironic is that when you bring up Jewish generosity toward blacks, you're hit with more anger about patronizing attitudes and comments like "so you Jews think we blacks need help? Well we don't need help from YOU!"

This case with Trayon White has revealed the seething hostility - yes, antisemtism - from blacks toward Jews. I suspected it existed to some degree, but what I've seen here goes far beyond.


I am neither black nor Jewish but am also shocked by the venom displayed on this thread.

Serious question: is there any possibility these are russian trolls trying to sow unrest and hatred amongst us. That is the only thought that gives me some comfort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmpWVuCb8s (How Russian Trolls operate)

It would be nice to think so, but the mod himself has said he sees no evidence of Russian trolls in this site.

Unfortunatlely, I think the venom here expressed by blacks toward Jews is real.

^I'm concerned that this poster seems hell-bent on making this a "blacks against Jews" discussion.

From what I can gather, this seems to be a single poster ranting about the plight of black people in America vs other minorities. Trying to make broader, by saying it's a blacks against Jews issue seems suspicious.

Again, I think we need to be careful not to get baited, one way or another.

Is it possible that the angry rants against Jews throughout this forum is from just one black man, intent on driving more division beween blacks and Jews?

We need more black people to come out and say that Trayon White is wrong and should resign, and did the black man upthread a couple of posts.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:12     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:Black person here. Keep in mind that this is an anonymous forum, so it's impossible to know whether people are who they say they are. IRL, I honestly have not heard of any resentment towards Jews by other AAs.

I grew up in the South and did not really know any Jewish people growing up, never learned about the Holocaust in school, and really didn't meet any self-identified Jews until grad school. My Jewish classmates basically schooled me on a lot of things at that time. At worst I've possibly detected indifference towards Jews among a segment of AAs (again, particularly in the South) but not outright anti-Semitism, especially among people who grew up as I did in predominantly AA settings where people don't know Jews or know much about their history, and some may see them as just another group of white people. However, I currently live in a black and Jewish neighborhood in DC where everyone gets along wonderfully. I like that our kids are growing up learning about each other's cultures, history, holidays, etc.

Also, please keep in mind that the people who post here are not necessarily representative of a community's sentiments towards a particular group of people--opinions on the Internet come with a large selection bias.


P.S. I'd just add that I don't think this view is correct at all, in case it wasn't clear. I'm just commenting about views among some people who have not had much exposure to Jewish people and are less well-educated on Jewish culture/religion/history.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:09     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Avi Meyer on Twitter: Germany, 2018: The President of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, Josef Schuster, has warned Jews not to wear kippot (Jewish skullcaps) in major German cities due to the threat of antisemitic attacks. (Die Zeit)


Affects Jews in Metropolitan DC how?


Lmfao ! Careful bro didn't you know ? If they decide that it affects us then it must be so . Offering another perspective earns you the anti semtism accolade . What a world !

^^^ plenty of nasty resentment toward Jews who say they feel certain actions are antisemtic. if Jews think something is antisemtitc, they should shut up about it, right? There's more demonization against Jewish people than there is against White, who started all this with his repeated wrong behavior.


It’s more demonization against Mexicans than there is against whites - talk of walls being built got ICE agents snatching folks up - do Jews get that treatment? It’s more demonization against Muslims than there is against whites - talk of bans from specific countries got agencies monitoring their every move do Jews get that treatment? It’s more demonization against blacks than there is against whites - mass incarceration is out of control got cops shooting unarmed men left and right - do Jews get that treatment? Is it anti Semitic for me to point out other groups are catching hell?

Like I said, the resentment toward the Jews here is scary. More religious hate crimes are against Jews.

Just admit that there is plenty of antisemtism. Can't do it, though, can you?



Can I do it, sure but guess what - I’m not going to do it to appease you. Hell no. And it’s not because you’re Jewish or because I’m antisemitic. Hardly the case. I’m not doing it because you ain’t about to dictate to me what issues I absolutely must be concerned about above all others.
Nah that ain’t happening that sounds like some massa/slave plantation indoctrination shit to me. You trying to say it’s not enough for me see the wrong and denounce the wrong. No, I have to adamantly declare it to be THE most distressing wrong in the world today or else you gonna brand me.
Not happening.
Am I disturbed by bigotry and hatred and discrimination and resentment in any form?
Definitely.
But am I also allowed to be slightly more worried about the safety and well-being of my non-white friends and relatives who have to deal with the potential dangers of negative perceptions regarding their complexions that put them at risk every single day from people and from the police - am I allowed to be a little more concerned about them than I am worried about the safety and well-being of folks who at the very least have the benefit of white privilege working in their favor to garner them greater safety and just treatment?
Hell yes I’m allowed and I’m not altering my emotions or realigning sentiments just to appease you.


Nice rant. What you are articulating is divisive. Understand that in most cases, Jews and particularly northern Jews (which in this context includes tens of thousands of people from the DC area) have stood against racism and bigotry in all forms, from Jim Crow era to the Muslim ban. What you are articulating is a selfish priority of racism over other forms of bigotry. That is certainly your right, but standing against all forms of racism and bigotry is a better solution. Don't do it because a PP asked you to. Do it because it is the right thing to do and is consistent with the teachings of both the Old and New Testaments.

Remember the poem from Nazi Germany:


First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.


We either grow stronger together or we all are marginalized apart.


NP Ah look at you being dismissive by calling what previous PP said a 'nice rant' , by the same token isn't what you wrote a 'nice rant' too? What makes you think that your attempt to 'all lives matter' the subject is the correct course ?Standing against bigotry and being the continued victim of bigotry are two completely different things . One can choose to stand against all forms of bigotry without negating the fact there is a group that's been and continues to be disproportionately affected by all forms of bigotry , Jews are not getting killed by cops and being let go by complicit juries , Jewish kids are not disciplined on a higher and harsher level than non Jewish kids , there has never been a sustained effort at the local,state and federal level to incarcerate as many Jewish men as possible , Jews ( particularly men) are not paid less than their black counterparts even if and when experience and competence are equal,Jews are not victims of slumlords in ways the minorities are victims of Jewish slumlords ( Kushner co. Anyone?) , Jews are not given harsher sentences for crimes they commit compared to other groups , the list is far from exhaustive

At no point in your comment did you even bother to acknowledge this , you instead chose to say we stand together or grow marginalized which is laughable . Provide me evidence of Jewish marginalization in 2018 America and I'm sure it won't even be compelling enough to warrant a comparison to the examples I cited above. At your core you're a fundamentally dishonest person and such dishonesty is driving away all kinds of people from you
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:08     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, I had no idea the people I have been standing side-by-side with for all of these years had so much anger towards me.

-Signed, liberal Jew.

Wow! I am SO glad to hear a liberal Jew you say this. All I am seeing on this site is a seething resentment and anger from blacks toward Jews, and I too have done much to help black people - including generous donations to a program that helps poor black children in particular. (Even more ironic is that when you bring up Jewish generosity toward blacks, you're hit with more anger about patronizing attitudes and comments like "so you Jews think we blacks need help? Well we don't need help from YOU!"

This case with Trayon White has revealed the seething hostility - yes, antisemtism - from blacks toward Jews. I suspected it existed to some degree, but what I've seen here goes far beyond.

Are you truly sure you are reacting to the sentiments of black people? I'm a black male and I have posted repeatedly that White was dead wrong and he should resign. I've seen posts were other black people said the same.

Sockpuppets have a real presence on this and other internet forums - for the purpose of fanning flames and division. They are BUSY.

All I'm saying is please be careful and discerning about who/what you think you are responding to on this and other online/anonymous forums.

I appreciate your post, and it's possible that the people showing themselves as angry and antisemtitc black males - which they do in their posts - are not who they pretend to be. Still, the hatred and resentment they exoress is so visceral at a gut level that I tend to believe it is real.

That said, you'll note that I did not say I am reconsidering my donations to the program helping poor black children, as I don't want to punish children for the prejudice of their parents. Still, it does take discipline for me to continue my support when that help is attacked as being "patronizing." I'm not asking for accolades for donating to black causes, but I don't expect to be attacked for it either.

Finally, your poat provides nice counterpoint to the seeming black-hatred-for-Jews posts I've been seeing, and is very reassuring. Thank you.

Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:07     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:I get that more and more swastikas being spray painted on synagogues is distressing. I get that more and more Jews being beat up by hateful bigots is disturbing. But I’d be remiss not to point out that those increasing hate crimes are being committed by civilians not the state and it was the state that carried out the Holocaust in 1930’s Germany.

Is the state still persecuting you in America today?

You ever had somebody call the cops on you simply because you’re Jewish? You ever had the police tell you and your kippot wearing friends to “move along or we’re going to arrest you” simply because you’re Jewish? You ever had an officer pull you over because of the Star of David decal on your SUV? You ever had a judge hand down a harsh sentence on you because your last name denotes that you’re Jewish and turn you over to a corrupt criminal justice system that profits from your people’s pain? You ever have your congressional district redrawn to dilute the value of your vote just because of it’s large Jewish population? You ever had problems trying to cast your vote because there are no polling places in your predominantly Jewish community or you ever had strict voter ID laws put in place in your community to prevent you from exercising your Constitutional right?

Those are all examples of the state coming down on a people. It’s all kinds of nutjobs and assholes out here among the general populace perpetuating discrimination against Jews, yes, but the state isn’t coming after you today with guns drawn ready to kill you and cuffs out eager to compromise your freedoms like in 1930’s Germany.

No, today the state is coming after people of color with guns drawn and cuffs out and when it’s the state doing the discriminating that’s what allows Holocausts to happen.


I'm bout to do my due diligence for a few but y'all go ahead and do me a favor and let me know if this is venomous.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:06     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Black person here. Keep in mind that this is an anonymous forum, so it's impossible to know whether people are who they say they are. IRL, I honestly have not heard of any resentment towards Jews by other AAs.

I grew up in the South and did not really know any Jewish people growing up, never learned about the Holocaust in school, and really didn't meet any self-identified Jews until grad school. My Jewish classmates basically schooled me on a lot of things at that time. At worst I've possibly detected indifference towards Jews among a segment of AAs (again, particularly in the South) but not outright anti-Semitism, especially among people who grew up as I did in predominantly AA settings where people don't know Jews or know much about their history, and some may see them as just another group of white people. However, I currently live in a black and Jewish neighborhood in DC where everyone gets along wonderfully. I like that our kids are growing up learning about each other's cultures, history, holidays, etc.

Also, please keep in mind that the people who post here are not necessarily representative of a community's sentiments towards a particular group of people--opinions on the Internet come with a large selection bias.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2018 09:02     Subject: How does Trayon White still have a job?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, I had no idea the people I have been standing side-by-side with for all of these years had so much anger towards me.

-Signed, liberal Jew.

Wow! I am SO glad to hear a liberal Jew you say this. All I am seeing on this site is a seething resentment and anger from blacks toward Jews, and I too have done much to help black people - including generous donations to a program that helps poor black children in particular. (Even more ironic is that when you bring up Jewish generosity toward blacks, you're hit with more anger about patronizing attitudes and comments like "so you Jews think we blacks need help? Well we don't need help from YOU!"

This case with Trayon White has revealed the seething hostility - yes, antisemtism - from blacks toward Jews. I suspected it existed to some degree, but what I've seen here goes far beyond.


I am neither black nor Jewish but am also shocked by the venom displayed on this thread.

Serious question: is there any possibility these are russian trolls trying to sow unrest and hatred amongst us. That is the only thought that gives me some comfort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psmpWVuCb8s (How Russian Trolls operate)

It would be nice to think so, but the mod himself has said he sees no evidence of Russian trolls in this site.

Unfortunatlely, I think the venom here expressed by blacks toward Jews is real.

^I'm concerned that this poster seems hell-bent on making this a "blacks against Jews" discussion.

From what I can gather, this seems to be a single poster ranting about the plight of black people in America vs other minorities. Trying to make broader, by saying it's a blacks against Jews issue seems suspicious.

Again, I think we need to be careful not to get baited, one way or another.