Welcome to Teaching Rednecks the Law and Basic Common Decency! Today's guest believes that every time a foreigner points a gun at him it is robbery. Listen closely as our host explains over and over again why this is wrong.

Anonymous wrote:No way was this an "armed robbery" and the swimmers were not in the right at any point.

Nowhere in America can you to a bar or convenience store, cause damage and then demand to be allowed to leave without making restitution or waiting for the police.

No where in America can an owner demand restitution with a gun.

Anonymous wrote:No way was this an "armed robbery" and the swimmers were not in the right at any point.

Nowhere in America can you to a bar or convenience store, cause damage and then demand to be allowed to leave without making restitution or waiting for the police.

What planet do you live on? You think every time a vandal does some minor damage to a 7-11, the clerk busts out a gun?

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Anonymous wrote:Well sir, they did more than merely trespass. Lochte ripped a door off its hinges and threw it to the ground. They vandalized the bathroom. It's there on the videotape. You should search it up and watch it.

Where did you hear that Lochte ripped a door off the hinges?

The reports all say that one of them kicked in the bathroom door and broke the soap dispenser and mirror. We have never been told which one did that (though I do find it interesting that only Feigen has had to pay a large sum to charity....makes me thing he made the mess). Reports say that when confronted by the gas station attendant, Lochte pulled down an advertisement poster from the wall and threw it on the ground (which you can see in the video)

I'm pretty sure Feigen is paying bc he's the last one left in Brazil. The other 2 hadn't given statements before so they couldn't be held for making contradictory statements. As soon as they spoke on Thursday, they were allowed to leave and landed in Miami this morning. Apparently Conger and Bentz said that RYAN is the one who got stupid in the bathroom. Ryan isn't there to pay, conveniently Feigen had tried to cover earlier with a false story -- so Feigen gets to pay. Hope Ryan will be reimbursing him.

And I hope he is helping the other two, who had to buy last minute one-way international plane tickets, after getting pulled from their original flights.

Didn't even think about that -- new tickets from Brazil to Miami this morning and then domestic tickets to get from Miami to their hometowns all bought last minute. Plus an extra night's hotel for Conger and Betz once they got pulled off of the Wed. flight. Not to mention Feigen who has been in a hotel since all the swimmers left the village on Tuesday. It's possible that IOC or USA Swimming or a lawyer put down a credit card for them but in that case, I fully expect them to be getting a bill ASAP.

I know he's a party bro and doesn't care, but the swimming world is small and if he intends to compete or even go to competitions again, he WILL run into these 3 guys. All 3 are just starting out in their careers and 2 are just in college so they'll be around the circuit for a while. What's he going to say?? Jeah bro wasn't it funny how the Brazilian cops went nuts just bc we messed up their gross bathrooms, so glad I changed my plans to leave a day early!!

I think the only way he can make it right with these 3 guys (though he prob doesn't care) is to reimburse Feigen the 11k, pay for the lawyer(s) used by Feigen and the other 2, and pay for all of their flights/hotels/meals for their additional stay.

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Anonymous wrote:Well sir, they did more than merely trespass. Lochte ripped a door off its hinges and threw it to the ground. They vandalized the bathroom. It's there on the videotape. You should search it up and watch it.

Where did you hear that Lochte ripped a door off the hinges?

The reports all say that one of them kicked in the bathroom door and broke the soap dispenser and mirror. We have never been told which one did that (though I do find it interesting that only Feigen has had to pay a large sum to charity....makes me thing he made the mess). Reports say that when confronted by the gas station attendant, Lochte pulled down an advertisement poster from the wall and threw it on the ground (which you can see in the video)

I'm pretty sure Feigen is paying bc he's the last one left in Brazil. The other 2 hadn't given statements before so they couldn't be held for making contradictory statements. As soon as they spoke on Thursday, they were allowed to leave and landed in Miami this morning. Apparently Conger and Bentz said that RYAN is the one who got stupid in the bathroom. Ryan isn't there to pay, conveniently Feigen had tried to cover earlier with a false story -- so Feigen gets to pay. Hope Ryan will be reimbursing him.

And I hope he is helping the other two, who had to buy last minute one-way international plane tickets, after getting pulled from their original flights.

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Anonymous wrote:Armed robbery would be someone who did not belong on the premises walking up with a gun demanding cash while they were doing who knows what out back of that gas station. They had no business being there as long as they were simply to use the restroom. They made no purchases while there.

This is a security guard who belonged on the premises asking for payment for damages .. Now how much this payment should have been is up for discussion and borders on extortion. But it ain't armed robbery. Stores stop shoplifters on a regular basis and demand that they wait for cops to arrive, do not leave the premises with stolen merchandise, etc... Again, even if it's an armed guard stopping you at Kohls and demanding you pay for what you were stealing, it is not armed robbery.

So if you stray off the sideway onto my grass I can pull a gun on you and demand money without it being an armed robbery, simple because I belong here and you don't? That doesn't make any sense.

If I damaged your property in my straying from the path, it isn't robbery if you are pulling a gun demanding payment for damages. You aren't demanding money for shits and giggles but for damages, get the difference?

This is still illegal!!

Are you an expert on Brazilian law? The police there seem to be more concerned about the American idiots. Perhaps the security guard will face charges of appropriate under Brazilian law.

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Anonymous wrote:Well sir, they did more than merely trespass. Lochte ripped a door off its hinges and threw it to the ground. They vandalized the bathroom. It's there on the videotape. You should search it up and watch it.

Where did you hear that Lochte ripped a door off the hinges?

The reports all say that one of them kicked in the bathroom door and broke the soap dispenser and mirror. We have never been told which one did that (though I do find it interesting that only Feigen has had to pay a large sum to charity....makes me thing he made the mess). Reports say that when confronted by the gas station attendant, Lochte pulled down an advertisement poster from the wall and threw it on the ground (which you can see in the video)

I'm pretty sure Feigen is paying bc he's the last one left in Brazil. The other 2 hadn't given statements before so they couldn't be held for making contradictory statements. As soon as they spoke on Thursday, they were allowed to leave and landed in Miami this morning. Apparently Conger and Bentz said that RYAN is the one who got stupid in the bathroom. Ryan isn't there to pay, conveniently Feigen had tried to cover earlier with a false story -- so Feigen gets to pay. Hope Ryan will be reimbursing him.

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Anonymous wrote:Well sir, they did more than merely trespass. Lochte ripped a door off its hinges and threw it to the ground. They vandalized the bathroom. It's there on the videotape. You should search it up and watch it.

Where did you hear that Lochte ripped a door off the hinges?

The reports all say that one of them kicked in the bathroom door and broke the soap dispenser and mirror. We have never been told which one did that (though I do find it interesting that only Feigen has had to pay a large sum to charity....makes me thing he made the mess). Reports say that when confronted by the gas station attendant, Lochte pulled down an advertisement poster from the wall and threw it on the ground (which you can see in the video)

I mean, I agree that Brazil is handling this really poorly, but 4 grown men acting like this in the first place??? WTF is wrong with them?

There is a reason stuff like this doesn't happen to me.

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, I agree with the posters who are saying that while they did do something stupid and wrong in vandalizing the bathrooom, it was equally stupid and wrong for the security guard to point a gun at them and demand money.

Supposedly the security guard had called the police (which I don't believe)....if they had, why not just hold the guys there until the police arrived? Instead, the guard forced them to pay for the damages and let them go before the police got there. That doesn't make any sense!

It makes no sense in America. It makes perfect sense in Brazil and in most other places in the developing world. Clearly you -- and these swim bros -- don't leave the country often and when you do, you make sure you don't stray too far from high end resorts or American hotel chains.

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, I agree with the posters who are saying that while they did do something stupid and wrong in vandalizing the bathrooom, it was equally stupid and wrong for the security guard to point a gun at them and demand money.

Supposedly the security guard had called the police (which I don't believe)....if they had, why not just hold the guys there until the police arrived? Instead, the guard forced them to pay for the damages and let them go before the police got there. That doesn't make any sense!

The Brazilians have declined to address the gun brandishing, and the security guard has elected to remain anonymous. Even in Brazil, waving a gun around like the guard did is excessive and wrong.

FWIW, I agree with the posters who are saying that while they did do something stupid and wrong in vandalizing the bathrooom, it was equally stupid and wrong for the security guard to point a gun at them and demand money.

Supposedly the security guard had called the police (which I don't believe)....if they had, why not just hold the guys there until the police arrived? Instead, the guard forced them to pay for the damages and let them go before the police got there. That doesn't make any sense!

Anonymous wrote:Well sir, they did more than merely trespass. Lochte ripped a door off its hinges and threw it to the ground. They vandalized the bathroom. It's there on the videotape. You should search it up and watch it.

Where did you hear that Lochte ripped a door off the hinges?

The reports all say that one of them kicked in the bathroom door and broke the soap dispenser and mirror. We have never been told which one did that (though I do find it interesting that only Feigen has had to pay a large sum to charity....makes me thing he made the mess). Reports say that when confronted by the gas station attendant, Lochte pulled down an advertisement poster from the wall and threw it on the ground (which you can see in the video)

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Anonymous wrote:Armed robbery would be someone who did not belong on the premises walking up with a gun demanding cash while they were doing who knows what out back of that gas station. They had no business being there as long as they were simply to use the restroom. They made no purchases while there.

This is a security guard who belonged on the premises asking for payment for damages .. Now how much this payment should have been is up for discussion and borders on extortion. But it ain't armed robbery. Stores stop shoplifters on a regular basis and demand that they wait for cops to arrive, do not leave the premises with stolen merchandise, etc... Again, even if it's an armed guard stopping you at Kohls and demanding you pay for what you were stealing, it is not armed robbery.

So if you stray off the sideway onto my grass I can pull a gun on you and demand money without it being an armed robbery, simple because I belong here and you don't? That doesn't make any sense.

If I damaged your property in my straying from the path, it isn't robbery if you are pulling a gun demanding payment for damages. You aren't demanding money for shits and giggles but for damages, get the difference?

This is still illegal!!

Anonymous wrote:Armed robbery would be someone who did not belong on the premises walking up with a gun demanding cash while they were doing who knows what out back of that gas station. They had no business being there as long as they were simply to use the restroom. They made no purchases while there.

This is a security guard who belonged on the premises asking for payment for damages .. Now how much this payment should have been is up for discussion and borders on extortion. But it ain't armed robbery. Stores stop shoplifters on a regular basis and demand that they wait for cops to arrive, do not leave the premises with stolen merchandise, etc... Again, even if it's an armed guard stopping you at Kohls and demanding you pay for what you were stealing, it is not armed robbery.

So you would be fine with a security guard pointing a loaded gun at you? Saying you better pay the money or he'll shoot you? I doubt it.

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Anonymous wrote:Armed robbery would be someone who did not belong on the premises walking up with a gun demanding cash while they were doing who knows what out back of that gas station. They had no business being there as long as they were simply to use the restroom. They made no purchases while there.

This is a security guard who belonged on the premises asking for payment for damages .. Now how much this payment should have been is up for discussion and borders on extortion. But it ain't armed robbery. Stores stop shoplifters on a regular basis and demand that they wait for cops to arrive, do not leave the premises with stolen merchandise, etc... Again, even if it's an armed guard stopping you at Kohls and demanding you pay for what you were stealing, it is not armed robbery.

So if you stray off the sideway onto my grass I can pull a gun on you and demand money without it being an armed robbery, simple because I belong here and you don't? That doesn't make any sense.

If I damaged your property in my straying from the path, it isn't robbery if you are pulling a gun demanding payment for damages. You aren't demanding money for shits and giggles but for damages, get the difference?