Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 22:37     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When will eaton students to Hardy?


Unfortunately next autumn. They have been so unkind to the school that nobody wants them here.


If that's really the case, then that's one change to the DME boundary plan that Eaton and Hardy communities could agree on -- leave Eaton at Deal.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 22:36     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

It may seem unkind to Hardy that many Eaton families don't want to go there. Hardy seems to have improved, but given the choice of Deal and Hardy, I doubt many at Hardy would pass up Deal.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 22:33     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When will eaton students to Hardy?


Unfortunately next autumn. They have been so unkind to the school that nobody wants them here.


And honestly many Eaton families don't want to go to Hardy. They've been zoned for Deal for decades, so they feel cheated with Hardy.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 22:11     Subject: Re:So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Who from Eaton has been unkind to anyone at Hardy?
Please give specifics.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 22:09     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Several years. Eaton kids in grades 3,4,5 are grandfathered to Deal unless they choose Hardy. Trust me, they will not opt for Hardy.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 21:42     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Anonymous wrote:When will eaton students to Hardy?


Unfortunately next autumn. They have been so unkind to the school that nobody wants them here.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 21:29     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

When will eaton students to Hardy?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 21:24     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1) There's about 56 kids in 6th grade who are IB or from feeder schools. IB kids are about 34. There's no way to have an official statement in this sense or a certified declaration If you need confirmation call Ms Pride or wait for the school profiles to be released. Source: Principal Pride and PTO rumors.

2) True: Hardy cluster is the wealthiest in DC and , yes, median income is almost twice as much that of Deal's cluster. So it is wrong to say that the zones have comparable demographics.

3) True: the Principal received as the main input from the IB community to restrict the OB inflow for 6th grade. This request was dismissed for ethical and educational reasons, as well as for impact on the school budget.

4) True: the Principal received as one of the main input from the IB community to have honor classes not only in Math (as in the past year), but also in English and Science. The outcome is that from this year honor classes have been established for Math, English. Science from 7th grade.


So, after 38 pages of thread we have a tentative answer!

34/125 = 27%

(if I have the grade 6 class total correct)

This is more than twice the IB % for the overall school for last year, which was 13%.

My takeaway is that this is a great achievement and a sign of progress!



+1. I would be delighted to see this trend continue.

IB mom of preschoolers
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 19:11     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Anonymous wrote:1) There's about 56 kids in 6th grade who are IB or from feeder schools. IB kids are about 34. There's no way to have an official statement in this sense or a certified declaration If you need confirmation call Ms Pride or wait for the school profiles to be released. Source: Principal Pride and PTO rumors.

2) True: Hardy cluster is the wealthiest in DC and , yes, median income is almost twice as much that of Deal's cluster. So it is wrong to say that the zones have comparable demographics.

3) True: the Principal received as the main input from the IB community to restrict the OB inflow for 6th grade. This request was dismissed for ethical and educational reasons, as well as for impact on the school budget.

4) True: the Principal received as one of the main input from the IB community to have honor classes not only in Math (as in the past year), but also in English and Science. The outcome is that from this year honor classes have been established for Math, English. Science from 7th grade.


So, after 38 pages of thread we have a tentative answer!

34/125 = 27%

(if I have the grade 6 class total correct)

This is more than twice the IB % for the overall school for last year, which was 13%.

My takeaway is that this is a great achievement and a sign of progress!

Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 18:49     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

1) There's about 56 kids in 6th grade who are IB or from feeder schools. IB kids are about 34. There's no way to have an official statement in this sense or a certified declaration If you need confirmation call Ms Pride or wait for the school profiles to be released. Source: Principal Pride and PTO rumors.

2) True: Hardy cluster is the wealthiest in DC and , yes, median income is almost twice as much that of Deal's cluster. So it is wrong to say that the zones have comparable demographics.

3) True: the Principal received as the main input from the IB community to restrict the OB inflow for 6th grade. This request was dismissed for ethical and educational reasons, as well as for impact on the school budget.

4) True: the Principal received as one of the main input from the IB community to have honor classes not only in Math (as in the past year), but also in English and Science. The outcome is that from this year honor classes have been established for Math, English. Science from 7th grade.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 18:30     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Seriously, please don't ask how many IB kids are in 6th-it has been answered at least 4x in this thread-their reached their goal of 50!!!!

Thank goodness none of you that keep asking this question repeatedly after it's been answered several times are at Hardy, else the DC CAS reading comprehension scores would REALLY be abysmal!
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 18:16     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Of course IB enrollment to Hardy is significantly lower than Deal's for reasons which go beyond the IB demographics. But let's clarify for the uninformed readers that the two constituency are substantially different, with Hardy boundary zones showing an average median income which is twice as much as Deal boundary zones.


What percent of current middle school age kids living IB to Hardy, attend private schools, vs the percent who attend charters, Deal, etc? The fact that the Hardy zone has more attending privates doesn't mean Hardy can't "flip". I mean lots of kids in Potomac and McLean attend privates, but the neighborhood public schools in those areas are well regarded and an important draw for those areas, IIUC.


Of course Hardy can flip and is actually flipping , thanks to the dedication of the Principal Pride and her staff, great teachers, involved parents, and stronger PTO.

The present situation and trends need to be put in context: Hardy's boundary cluster is the wealthier MS cluster of the whole city (and is, on average, twice as wealthy as the Deal feeding boundary). The IB take-off is slower since parents can more easily access private schools, or might have a social preference for such schools (especially after elementary schools) no matter what the performance of Hardy is. The differential between the average SES of the boundary and of the OB students attending Hardy is very high, and IB families have shown little appreciation of such differential or diversity, not to say diffidence.

The school academic offering , which is very high, cannot do much about this diffidence.

However we see a growing enrollment by IB families who weight the academic offering more than the SES differential and are opting for Hardy, and slowly changing the patterns. These are the families which demanded (and received) the START OF HONOR CLASSES rather than demanding a CAP TO 6TH OB GRADE ENROLLMENT (as several Hardy constituents suggested instead) .

Things are changing, especially after this year's introduction of honor classes in English and Math. But a IB revolution just cannot happen in 360 days in the context of the very wealthy and high SES Hardy boundaries.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 18:12     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Statistics are always the last line of self-defense in a debate.


What are you talking about? DCUM love our metrics and citations.


Which gets us right back to the initial question that started this thread: how many in-boundary kids are attending Hardy this year?


Do you mean the REAL in-boundary kids, or the kids who merely attended the feeder schools but live OOB?


If those numbers are not the same, I'd like to know both!
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 17:57     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Statistics are always the last line of self-defense in a debate.


What are you talking about? DCUM love our metrics and citations.


Which gets us right back to the initial question that started this thread: how many in-boundary kids are attending Hardy this year?


Do you mean the REAL in-boundary kids, or the kids who merely attended the feeder schools but live OOB?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 17:52     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Statistics are always the last line of self-defense in a debate.


What are you talking about? DCUM love our metrics and citations.


Which gets us right back to the initial question that started this thread: how many in-boundary kids are attending Hardy this year?