Anonymous wrote:ED is basically a glorified parent coach who tags along behind cc’s umbrella since Foley days. His VRSC team didn’t like him so he withdrew back to be a developmental coach with no responsibilities.

Anonymous wrote:ED is basically a glorified parent coach who tags along behind cc’s umbrella since Foley days. His VRSC team didn’t like him so he withdrew back to be a developmental coach with no responsibilities.

Anonymous wrote:These players selected by ED and CC. They are not talented players. Exactly why these coaches should be removed. They only advance their favorites and it’s entirely individual coach opinion, no other criteria. Watch how many kids leave this club in the spring as a result of their ignorance and maltreatment of players. Outside of these two individual coaches, there is zero input from anyone else.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These players selected by ED and CC. They are not talented players. Exactly why these coaches should be removed. They only advance their favorites and it’s entirely individual coach opinion, no other criteria. Watch how many kids leave this club in the spring as a result of their ignorance and maltreatment of players. Outside of these two individual coaches, there is zero input from anyone else.

It is shame to send the players they sent. I still cant believe it

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These players selected by ED and CC. They are not talented players. Exactly why these coaches should be removed. They only advance their favorites and it’s entirely individual coach opinion, no other criteria. Watch how many kids leave this club in the spring as a result of their ignorance and maltreatment of players. Outside of these two individual coaches, there is zero input from anyone else.

And now they're bringing in GD and some of his cronies from GFR which does absolutely nothing to help this club.

Anonymous wrote:These players selected by ED and CC. They are not talented players. Exactly why these coaches should be removed. They only advance their favorites and it’s entirely individual coach opinion, no other criteria. Watch how many kids leave this club in the spring as a result of their ignorance and maltreatment of players. Outside of these two individual coaches, there is zero input from anyone else.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honest question here, how exactly are players selected for the U.S. Talent ID? From where we’re sitting, it does seem like only names tied to CC and ED or whoever happens to attend the host school.

Meanwhile, there are plenty of girls out there quietly showing up, playing lights-out week after week, and somehow never quite making the list. So I was just wondering… are players sent in are club favorites, or are U.S. scouts the ones doing the choosing?

Not trying to stir up trouble,just trying to connect the dots.

It’s mostly club favorites unless there is a clear superstar. But even in that case the superstar will of course also be a coach favorite. There really isn’t much differentiation among players at a club despite parents who think their child is special. Many players are hard working and deserving. The club wants to send players who best represent the club and coaches, and also reward loyal players and families. Sometimes promises are made in order to recruit players to the club or prevent players from leaving.

While the selection process is flawed also realize these selections mean very little in college recruiting. Especially for the younger ages. Everybody knows clubs get invites to hand out and these talent ids are a dime a dozen. Like student of the month at school. For the few special players who are truly at the YNT level, who are selected and attend the regional or national camps, the scouts know who they are already from watching them at showcase events. If you aren’t sure if your child is at that level, then I have to break it to you: they aren’t.

So ALL selection processes are flawed with humans in the loop so that says nothing. But your statement that “there really isn’t much differentiation among players at a club” is a real loser argument. Of course there is, just watch a couple games and it’s pretty clear there is. You might have tried to provide an honest neutral answer but sounds like you’re a bit bitter on how your kid stacks up. Is their bias, yep. Do we all have some bias, yep. You got a solution, nope. Work hard, train hard, take risks, look for the best opportunity to excel and then maybe you make it to the top. No guarantees in life or soccer is a cliche but true. Best of luck to all the kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These players selected by ED and CC. They are not talented players. Exactly why these coaches should be removed. They only advance their favorites and it’s entirely individual coach opinion, no other criteria. Watch how many kids leave this club in the spring as a result of their ignorance and maltreatment of players. Outside of these two individual coaches, there is zero input from anyone else.

And now they're bringing in GD and some of his cronies from GFR which does absolutely nothing to help this club.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These players selected by ED and CC. They are not talented players. Exactly why these coaches should be removed. They only advance their favorites and it’s entirely individual coach opinion, no other criteria. Watch how many kids leave this club in the spring as a result of their ignorance and maltreatment of players. Outside of these two individual coaches, there is zero input from anyone else.

And now they're bringing in GD and some of his cronies from GFR which does absolutely nothing to help this club.

Anonymous wrote:These players selected by ED and CC. They are not talented players. Exactly why these coaches should be removed. They only advance their favorites and it’s entirely individual coach opinion, no other criteria. Watch how many kids leave this club in the spring as a result of their ignorance and maltreatment of players. Outside of these two individual coaches, there is zero input from anyone else.

Anonymous wrote:These players selected by ED and CC. They are not talented players. Exactly why these coaches should be removed. They only advance their favorites and it’s entirely individual coach opinion, no other criteria. Watch how many kids leave this club in the spring as a result of their ignorance and maltreatment of players. Outside of these two individual coaches, there is zero input from anyone else.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honest question here, how exactly are players selected for the U.S. Talent ID? From where we’re sitting, it does seem like only names tied to CC and ED or whoever happens to attend the host school.

Meanwhile, there are plenty of girls out there quietly showing up, playing lights-out week after week, and somehow never quite making the list. So I was just wondering… are players sent in are club favorites, or are U.S. scouts the ones doing the choosing?

Not trying to stir up trouble,just trying to connect the dots.

It’s mostly club favorites unless there is a clear superstar. But even in that case the superstar will of course also be a coach favorite. There really isn’t much differentiation among players at a club despite parents who think their child is special. Many players are hard working and deserving. The club wants to send players who best represent the club and coaches, and also reward loyal players and families. Sometimes promises are made in order to recruit players to the club or prevent players from leaving.

While the selection process is flawed also realize these selections mean very little in college recruiting. Especially for the younger ages. Everybody knows clubs get invites to hand out and these talent ids are a dime a dozen. Like student of the month at school. For the few special players who are truly at the YNT level, who are selected and attend the regional or national camps, the scouts know who they are already from watching them at showcase events. If you aren’t sure if your child is at that level, then I have to break it to you: they aren’t.

So ALL selection processes are flawed with humans in the loop so that says nothing. But your statement that “there really isn’t much differentiation among players at a club” is a real loser argument. Of course there is, just watch a couple games and it’s pretty clear there is. You might have tried to provide an honest neutral answer but sounds like you’re a bit bitter on how your kid stacks up. Is their bias, yep. Do we all have some bias, yep. You got a solution, nope. Work hard, train hard, take risks, look for the best opportunity to excel and then maybe you make it to the top. No guarantees in life or soccer is a cliche but true. Best of luck to all the kids.

The talent id selection is flawed because the clubs do the selection on who goes, so they can make promises and send their favorites. US soccer doesn't have or won't invest the resources to scout every showcase to take club coaches out of the process. One improvement would be to have opposing coaches do the recommendations but that doesn't mean clubs won't collude with each other to send their favorites.

There is no perfect system.

Start but not sending your favorites or players that go to your school. At least try to be impartial. Have a ranking board,allow other coaches to vote, heck even as parents to vote. Keep all anonymous and at least try to be impartial.