Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-05/ty-article/.premium/large-majority-of-israeli-jews-untroubled-by-reports-of-famine-in-gaza-poll-finds/00000198-7ab3-d0ce-a5de-fbb374f30000

79% of Israeli Jews untroubled by reports of famine in Gaza.

Lies.

Weren’t we repeatedly told that Israel is a democracy? Netanyahu is upholding what Israelis want and what the American Jews backing Israel want.

I have yet to see any famous American Rabbis calling on the president to stop the blockade and allow food in.

Well, here you go: https://www.npr.org/2025/08/01/nx-s1-5486700/humanitarian-aid-gaza-starvation

As for the the survey above, that's a eye-catching headline but it's just one look at a very complex situation. For another perspective, here's an article from the Times of Israel about the residents of Kibbutz Nir Oz, which was ravaged on 10/7, turning a ceremony about rebuilding their kibbutz into a protest against the government's intention to occupy Gaza. https://www.timesofisrael.com/kibbutz-nir-oz-suspends-cornerstone-laying-event-to-protest-cabinet-meeting-on-gaza-plan/

Just like the US, Israel is a complex place and no single survey can tell the whole story. Take some time and look at the protests, many of which have been going on for months, the op-eds, the statements by opposition leaders, etc. Plenty of Israelis know the difference between right and wrong and are demanding that their government hear their voices.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should have known this was inevitable since the USS Liberty. No one is allowed to discuss this honestly, and they never were. Strange bedfellows understood more or less immediately that Israel deliberately attacked a US ship, and everyone who wanted to have a DC career excepting a single R House rep, shut up about it for 50 years. Now every single elected Republican and the vast majority of elected Democrats hold their jobs because of AIPAC funding.

We have gained nothing but enmity from most of the world for this deranged special relationship. Tell me I’m wrong.

Right or wrong, it's irrelevant.

Israel has the capacity to defend itself, and does so, like it or not. It has a first world economy and a diversified domestic arms industry which exports globally due to the desirability of their products. U.S. military aid helps, of course, but that's far from saying that Israel couldn't produce the equivalent of U.S. supplied weapons if it had to - it just has not needed to. It developed a nuclear deterretn without U.S. aid, has a globally competitive main battle tank, widely respect small arms, etc., etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should have known this was inevitable since the USS Liberty. No one is allowed to discuss this honestly, and they never were. Strange bedfellows understood more or less immediately that Israel deliberately attacked a US ship, and everyone who wanted to have a DC career excepting a single R House rep, shut up about it for 50 years. Now every single elected Republican and the vast majority of elected Democrats hold their jobs because of AIPAC funding.

We have gained nothing but enmity from most of the world for this deranged special relationship. Tell me I’m wrong.

Right or wrong, it's irrelevant.

Israel has the capacity to defend itself, and does so, like it or not. It has a first world economy and a diversified domestic arms industry which exports globally due to the desirability of their products. U.S. military aid helps, of course, but that's far from saying that Israel couldn't produce the equivalent of U.S. supplied weapons if it had to - it just has not needed to. It developed a nuclear deterretn without U.S. aid, has a globally competitive main battle tank, widely respect small arms, etc., etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-05/ty-article/.premium/large-majority-of-israeli-jews-untroubled-by-reports-of-famine-in-gaza-poll-finds/00000198-7ab3-d0ce-a5de-fbb374f30000

79% of Israeli Jews untroubled by reports of famine in Gaza.

Lies.

Weren’t we repeatedly told that Israel is a democracy? Netanyahu is upholding what Israelis want and what the American Jews backing Israel want.

I have yet to see any famous American Rabbis calling on the president to stop the blockade and allow food in.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should have known this was inevitable since the USS Liberty. No one is allowed to discuss this honestly, and they never were. Strange bedfellows understood more or less immediately that Israel deliberately attacked a US ship, and everyone who wanted to have a DC career excepting a single R House rep, shut up about it for 50 years. Now every single elected Republican and the vast majority of elected Democrats hold their jobs because of AIPAC funding.

We have gained nothing but enmity from most of the world for this deranged special relationship. Tell me I’m wrong.

Right or wrong, it's irrelevant.

Israel has the capacity to defend itself, and does so, like it or not. It has a first world economy and a diversified domestic arms industry which exports globally due to the desirability of their products. U.S. military aid helps, of course, but that's far from saying that Israel couldn't produce the equivalent of U.S. supplied weapons if it had to - it just has not needed to. It developed a nuclear deterretn without U.S. aid, has a globally competitive main battle tank, widely respect small arms, etc., etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should have known this was inevitable since the USS Liberty. No one is allowed to discuss this honestly, and they never were. Strange bedfellows understood more or less immediately that Israel deliberately attacked a US ship, and everyone who wanted to have a DC career excepting a single R House rep, shut up about it for 50 years. Now every single elected Republican and the vast majority of elected Democrats hold their jobs because of AIPAC funding.

We have gained nothing but enmity from most of the world for this deranged special relationship. Tell me I’m wrong.

Right or wrong, it's irrelevant.

Israel has the capacity to defend itself, and does so, like it or not. It has a first world economy and a diversified domestic arms industry which exports globally due to the desirability of their products. U.S. military aid helps, of course, but that's far from saying that Israel couldn't produce the equivalent of U.S. supplied weapons if it had to - it just has not needed to. It developed a nuclear deterretn without U.S. aid, has a globally competitive main battle tank, widely respect small arms, etc., etc.

Anonymous wrote:We should have known this was inevitable since the USS Liberty. No one is allowed to discuss this honestly, and they never were. Strange bedfellows understood more or less immediately that Israel deliberately attacked a US ship, and everyone who wanted to have a DC career excepting a single R House rep, shut up about it for 50 years. Now every single elected Republican and the vast majority of elected Democrats hold their jobs because of AIPAC funding.

We have gained nothing but enmity from most of the world for this deranged special relationship. Tell me I’m wrong.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-05/ty-article/.premium/large-majority-of-israeli-jews-untroubled-by-reports-of-famine-in-gaza-poll-finds/00000198-7ab3-d0ce-a5de-fbb374f30000

79% of Israeli Jews untroubled by reports of famine in Gaza.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-05/ty-article/.premium/large-majority-of-israeli-jews-untroubled-by-reports-of-famine-in-gaza-poll-finds/00000198-7ab3-d0ce-a5de-fbb374f30000

79% of Israeli Jews untroubled by reports of famine in Gaza.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not believing Jewish people have the right to a state is antisemitism, full stop.

The war will end when Hamas surrenders and the Palestinians retreat from the lands they stole from the Jewish people.

The Jewish people don’t have the right to steal land from anyone. They didn’t in 1948 and they don’t now.

They didn't "steal" land from anyone in 1948, and the Palestinians had neither right nor title to the land they occupied then, which had changed hands politically dozens of times in the preceding centuries. The Palestinians could have had a legitimate state of their own then, something they never had previously, but preferred instead to wage war in hopes of gaining by force more territory than the U.N. plan would have provided. Bad choices then, and ever since.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not believing Jewish people have the right to a state is antisemitism, full stop.

The war will end when Hamas surrenders and the Palestinians retreat from the lands they stole from the Jewish people.

The Jewish people don’t have the right to steal land from anyone. They didn’t in 1948 and they don’t now.

The Jewish people have held clear right to the land since the time of the Old Testament. This ancestral right was not nullified by the invasion of the Canaanites, Egyptians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans or the Islamic Caliphates that stole their homeland. Nor did their right to this land just disappear when the British, or later the so-called “Palestinians” stole their rightful land. This was what was recognized in 1948, and remains true today.

This is why the hateful, anti-Semitic pro-Hamas people refuse to accept. The ongoing war is a war for freedom for a People that have endured thousands of years of violent invaders, from the Babylonians to the Palestinians trying to destroy the homeland held so dear for so long.

Anonymous wrote:Sickening.