Anonymous
02/15/2024 06:09
Subject: New opposition petition to the Maury-Miner boundary proposal from DME
Annoyingly, the article doesn't get to the heart of the matter: endemic low DCPS capacity and general incompetence. The UMC and white parents come off as selfish, elitist jerks in the WaPo when the truth is that they know that Maury is only so wonderful even without it being merged with a Title 1 school. When you've finally got a functional school in a dysfunctional system, after years of struggle on the part of neighborhood parents, don't mess with it. The inconvenient truth is that DCPS isn't doing a great job with the high SES kids they've got. There's a reason that more than a third of the Maury 4th graders (and most of the Brent 4th graders) don't return for 5th grade, and it's not because DCPS inspires great confidence in most upper grades UMC Hill parents. Risking killing a goose laying golden eggs won't improve matters.
Anonymous
02/15/2024 00:47
Subject: Re:New opposition petition to the Maury-Miner boundary proposal from DME
Anonymous
02/13/2024 23:24
Subject: New opposition petition to the Maury-Miner boundary proposal from DME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^ When you say over the “limit,” what do you mean? The WTU (flexible) limit is 25. I’m having difficulty believing that Miner has so many classes over 25…
This is me not understanding how DCPS works — if a class is over the limit do they not split it into two classes? Is that not the point of a limit? These class sizes sound pretty outrageous.
Usually yes and they add from the WL to make up the difference. The hardest jump is 1 to 2 classes though, because they aren’t going to make 13 kid classrooms if don’t have a WL to supplement from. 2 to 3 is usually less problematic though because 52 = 26 + 26 or 17 + 17 + 18 and those class sizes will typically fly. Our school has a bunch that size, in fact. This should be all the more true at Miner, which has T1 money to play with. That’s why I’m guessing this person was treating 22 as a limit, which is actually the target (ie ideal) from DCPS’ perspective, not the limit.
Thank you for explaining this!! It’s very interesting and helpful.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 23:01
Subject: New opposition petition to the Maury-Miner boundary proposal from DME
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^ When you say over the “limit,” what do you mean? The WTU (flexible) limit is 25. I’m having difficulty believing that Miner has so many classes over 25…
This is me not understanding how DCPS works — if a class is over the limit do they not split it into two classes? Is that not the point of a limit? These class sizes sound pretty outrageous.
Usually yes and they add from the WL to make up the difference. The hardest jump is 1 to 2 classes though, because they aren’t going to make 13 kid classrooms if don’t have a WL to supplement from. 2 to 3 is usually less problematic though because 52 = 26 + 26 or 17 + 17 + 18 and those class sizes will typically fly. Our school has a bunch that size, in fact. This should be all the more true at Miner, which has T1 money to play with. That’s why I’m guessing this person was treating 22 as a limit, which is actually the target (ie ideal) from DCPS’ perspective, not the limit.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 22:17
Subject: New opposition petition to the Maury-Miner boundary proposal from DME
Anonymous wrote:^ When you say over the “limit,” what do you mean? The WTU (flexible) limit is 25. I’m having difficulty believing that Miner has so many classes over 25…
This is me not understanding how DCPS works — if a class is over the limit do they not split it into two classes? Is that not the point of a limit? These class sizes sound pretty outrageous.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 22:12
Subject: New opposition petition to the Maury-Miner boundary proposal from DME
^ When you say over the “limit,” what do you mean? The WTU (flexible) limit is 25. I’m having difficulty believing that Miner has so many classes over 25…
Anonymous
02/13/2024 22:11
Subject: New opposition petition to the Maury-Miner boundary proposal from DME
Anonymous wrote:
Apologies, if you have 9 ECE classes and only 368 students, then your other grades average approx 35 students. And doesn't Miner have some self-contained classrooms as well? How could you possible have another grade with 3 homerooms? If you did, the other grades would average 30 students. Looking at the numbers, I assumed you must have 1 classroom in some grades. If not, you must have many classrooms that are way underenrolled (DCPS target is 22; 20 is considered full). Also, Miner is way underenrolled for capacity. You may be "overenrolled" based on projections, but that's an accounting thing not an actual capacity issue.
In any case, when my child attend ECE at Miner, her PK3 classroom was almost half white and just over half UMC. Perhaps things have changed? I had assumed, if anything, the gentrification trend in ECE had accelerated, but perhaps that's incorrect?
We have 420 something students enrolled currently.
Our PreK classes are not full.
We have 3 Kindergarten classes ( one is over the limit), we have 3 first grade classes. One of our self-contained K-2 classes is 6 kids over the limit.
We have 2 second grade classes both over the limit.
3rd grade is at the cap. Both 4th grade classes and one 5th grade class are over 20.
We have long term subs teaching in 3 classrooms. We are down a special education teacher and a special education aide.
People keep speaking about Miner like they have a clear understanding of the issues, but you really don’t.
If Miner really increased more than 50 students YOY that’s quite positive. Is that actually true though?
Anonymous
02/13/2024 20:15
Subject: New opposition petition to the Maury-Miner boundary proposal from DME
Anonymous wrote:
Apologies, if you have 9 ECE classes and only 368 students, then your other grades average approx 35 students. And doesn't Miner have some self-contained classrooms as well? How could you possible have another grade with 3 homerooms? If you did, the other grades would average 30 students. Looking at the numbers, I assumed you must have 1 classroom in some grades. If not, you must have many classrooms that are way underenrolled (DCPS target is 22; 20 is considered full). Also, Miner is way underenrolled for capacity. You may be "overenrolled" based on projections, but that's an accounting thing not an actual capacity issue.
In any case, when my child attend ECE at Miner, her PK3 classroom was almost half white and just over half UMC. Perhaps things have changed? I had assumed, if anything, the gentrification trend in ECE had accelerated, but perhaps that's incorrect?
We have 420 something students enrolled currently.
Our PreK classes are not full.
We have 3 Kindergarten classes ( one is over the limit), we have 3 first grade classes. One of our self-contained K-2 classes is 6 kids over the limit.
We have 2 second grade classes both over the limit.
3rd grade is at the cap. Both 4th grade classes and one 5th grade class are over 20.
We have long term subs teaching in 3 classrooms. We are down a special education teacher and a special education aide.
People keep speaking about Miner like they have a clear understanding of the issues, but you really don’t.
I think you’re talking about different things. Miner is underenrolled from a building utilization perspective (it is at 62% https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Boundary_Study_School%20Meetings%20Miner_2.06.2024%20POSTING.pdf). Sounds like it also has multiple classes that are at or over capacity, probably because it doesn’t have enough kids for another class in that grade, even though there is space in the building.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 19:18
Subject: New opposition petition to the Maury-Miner boundary proposal from DME
Apologies, if you have 9 ECE classes and only 368 students, then your other grades average approx 35 students. And doesn't Miner have some self-contained classrooms as well? How could you possible have another grade with 3 homerooms? If you did, the other grades would average 30 students. Looking at the numbers, I assumed you must have 1 classroom in some grades. If not, you must have many classrooms that are way underenrolled (DCPS target is 22; 20 is considered full). Also, Miner is way underenrolled for capacity. You may be "overenrolled" based on projections, but that's an accounting thing not an actual capacity issue.
In any case, when my child attend ECE at Miner, her PK3 classroom was almost half white and just over half UMC. Perhaps things have changed? I had assumed, if anything, the gentrification trend in ECE had accelerated, but perhaps that's incorrect?
We have 420 something students enrolled currently.
Our PreK classes are not full.
We have 3 Kindergarten classes ( one is over the limit), we have 3 first grade classes. One of our self-contained K-2 classes is 6 kids over the limit.
We have 2 second grade classes both over the limit.
3rd grade is at the cap. Both 4th grade classes and one 5th grade class are over 20.
We have long term subs teaching in 3 classrooms. We are down a special education teacher and a special education aide.
People keep speaking about Miner like they have a clear understanding of the issues, but you really don’t.