Anonymous wrote:Sick people should mask for all illness.

But Americans are serious dicks and care only about themselves.

Anonymous wrote:Sick people should mask for all illness.

But Americans are serious dicks and care only about themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
What are we in for???

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/11/18/only-14-of-us-adults-have-gotten-latest-updated-covid-19-vaccine/

New Mexico just reported actual data for the new covid booster; 5% of its total population had taken the shot as of mid-December. This suggests that adult uptake was around 6%. Despite this, the CDC says that 20% of NM adults have taken the new shot according to its self-reported NIS phone survey. The CDC's estimate for NM is wildly off the mark which is why phone survey data should not be used as a proxy for actual vaccine uptake.
What makes New Mexico's data particularly interesting is that they compare uptake of the new booster with last year's bivalent booster. Demand for the new booster has collapsed in NM, down more than 80% relative to last year's bivalent booster. Less than 2% of New Mexicans aged 6m to 39yrs have taken the new shot. Even amongst the most vulnerable 65+ year olds, less than 15% have taken the new shot. https://nmdoh-reports.shinyapps.io/ViralRespiratoryInfectionDashboard/ https://cv.nmhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/New-Mexico-COVID-19-Vaccination-Report_19Dec2023.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/covidvaxview/interactive/adult-coverage-vaccination.html

New Mexico Uptake of Covid Boosters
6m-4yrs Bivalent 5% New 1%
5-11yrs Bivalent 8% New 2%
12-17yrs Bivalent 14% New 2%
18-24yrs Bivalent 11% New 1%
25-39yrs Bivalent 14% New 2%
40-64yrs Bivalent 30% New 5%
65+yrs Bivalent 67% New 14%

But this is just public health data - states are not collecting data from Walgreens, Walmart, CVS, where most people are getting the shots.

I agree that the CDC numbers are likely wrong but state numbers are likely wrong too. I am sure someone will get access to the private company data at some point, but that is probably the closest source of truth and that has not been published.

No. Pharmacies report their vaccinations to state immunization registries and are included in state totals.

Where in the report does it say that? I looked at the methodology, and it looked like all government reporting. I did not see anything about data collection from pharmacies.

DP. I don't know what the report's methodology or sources were, but pharmacies and doctors offices do report vaccinations to the state. At least everywhere I have lived. That should be pretty good data in the states that have immunization registries.

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Anonymous wrote:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
What are we in for???

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/11/18/only-14-of-us-adults-have-gotten-latest-updated-covid-19-vaccine/

New Mexico just reported actual data for the new covid booster; 5% of its total population had taken the shot as of mid-December. This suggests that adult uptake was around 6%. Despite this, the CDC says that 20% of NM adults have taken the new shot according to its self-reported NIS phone survey. The CDC's estimate for NM is wildly off the mark which is why phone survey data should not be used as a proxy for actual vaccine uptake.
What makes New Mexico's data particularly interesting is that they compare uptake of the new booster with last year's bivalent booster. Demand for the new booster has collapsed in NM, down more than 80% relative to last year's bivalent booster. Less than 2% of New Mexicans aged 6m to 39yrs have taken the new shot. Even amongst the most vulnerable 65+ year olds, less than 15% have taken the new shot. https://nmdoh-reports.shinyapps.io/ViralRespiratoryInfectionDashboard/ https://cv.nmhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/New-Mexico-COVID-19-Vaccination-Report_19Dec2023.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/covidvaxview/interactive/adult-coverage-vaccination.html

New Mexico Uptake of Covid Boosters
6m-4yrs Bivalent 5% New 1%
5-11yrs Bivalent 8% New 2%
12-17yrs Bivalent 14% New 2%
18-24yrs Bivalent 11% New 1%
25-39yrs Bivalent 14% New 2%
40-64yrs Bivalent 30% New 5%
65+yrs Bivalent 67% New 14%

But this is just public health data - states are not collecting data from Walgreens, Walmart, CVS, where most people are getting the shots.

I agree that the CDC numbers are likely wrong but state numbers are likely wrong too. I am sure someone will get access to the private company data at some point, but that is probably the closest source of truth and that has not been published.

No. Pharmacies report their vaccinations to state immunization registries and are included in state totals.

Where in the report does it say that? I looked at the methodology, and it looked like all government reporting. I did not see anything about data collection from pharmacies.

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Anonymous wrote:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
What are we in for???

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/11/18/only-14-of-us-adults-have-gotten-latest-updated-covid-19-vaccine/

New Mexico just reported actual data for the new covid booster; 5% of its total population had taken the shot as of mid-December. This suggests that adult uptake was around 6%. Despite this, the CDC says that 20% of NM adults have taken the new shot according to its self-reported NIS phone survey. The CDC's estimate for NM is wildly off the mark which is why phone survey data should not be used as a proxy for actual vaccine uptake.
What makes New Mexico's data particularly interesting is that they compare uptake of the new booster with last year's bivalent booster. Demand for the new booster has collapsed in NM, down more than 80% relative to last year's bivalent booster. Less than 2% of New Mexicans aged 6m to 39yrs have taken the new shot. Even amongst the most vulnerable 65+ year olds, less than 15% have taken the new shot. https://nmdoh-reports.shinyapps.io/ViralRespiratoryInfectionDashboard/ https://cv.nmhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/New-Mexico-COVID-19-Vaccination-Report_19Dec2023.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/covidvaxview/interactive/adult-coverage-vaccination.html

New Mexico Uptake of Covid Boosters
6m-4yrs Bivalent 5% New 1%
5-11yrs Bivalent 8% New 2%
12-17yrs Bivalent 14% New 2%
18-24yrs Bivalent 11% New 1%
25-39yrs Bivalent 14% New 2%
40-64yrs Bivalent 30% New 5%
65+yrs Bivalent 67% New 14%

But this is just public health data - states are not collecting data from Walgreens, Walmart, CVS, where most people are getting the shots.

I agree that the CDC numbers are likely wrong but state numbers are likely wrong too. I am sure someone will get access to the private company data at some point, but that is probably the closest source of truth and that has not been published.

No. Pharmacies report their vaccinations to state immunization registries and are included in state totals.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
What are we in for???

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/11/18/only-14-of-us-adults-have-gotten-latest-updated-covid-19-vaccine/

New Mexico just reported actual data for the new covid booster; 5% of its total population had taken the shot as of mid-December. This suggests that adult uptake was around 6%. Despite this, the CDC says that 20% of NM adults have taken the new shot according to its self-reported NIS phone survey. The CDC's estimate for NM is wildly off the mark which is why phone survey data should not be used as a proxy for actual vaccine uptake.
What makes New Mexico's data particularly interesting is that they compare uptake of the new booster with last year's bivalent booster. Demand for the new booster has collapsed in NM, down more than 80% relative to last year's bivalent booster. Less than 2% of New Mexicans aged 6m to 39yrs have taken the new shot. Even amongst the most vulnerable 65+ year olds, less than 15% have taken the new shot. https://nmdoh-reports.shinyapps.io/ViralRespiratoryInfectionDashboard/ https://cv.nmhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/New-Mexico-COVID-19-Vaccination-Report_19Dec2023.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/covidvaxview/interactive/adult-coverage-vaccination.html

New Mexico Uptake of Covid Boosters
6m-4yrs Bivalent 5% New 1%
5-11yrs Bivalent 8% New 2%
12-17yrs Bivalent 14% New 2%
18-24yrs Bivalent 11% New 1%
25-39yrs Bivalent 14% New 2%
40-64yrs Bivalent 30% New 5%
65+yrs Bivalent 67% New 14%

But this is just public health data - states are not collecting data from Walgreens, Walmart, CVS, where most people are getting the shots.

I agree that the CDC numbers are likely wrong but state numbers are likely wrong too. I am sure someone will get access to the private company data at some point, but that is probably the closest source of truth and that has not been published.

No. Pharmacies report their vaccinations to state immunization registries and are included in state totals.

Anonymous wrote:CDC stands for center for dumb condescension. Last I checked, these were the idiots who advocated school closures and all manner of useless yet harmful actions. No thanks. They can experiment on some one else’s kid, not mine!

Anonymous wrote:In an effort to increase booster uptake, the CDC sent a Health Advisory to medical providers last week, which included a conversation guide to use with patients when discussing vaccines. https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/tools-resources/downloads/HCP-conversation-guide-508.pdf

The CDC said providers should “make a strong recommendation” by saying: “You are due for your flu and COVID-19 vaccines today. I’ve gotten these vaccines myself and recommend them for you too.” The CDC is also encouraging providers to “Use motivational interviewing when patients are hesitant or resistant to a strong recommendation” with regards to vaccines, with links provided for resources compiled by the American Psychological Association (APA). https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/hcp/engaging-patients.html

The APA defines motivational interviewing as “a client-centered yet directive approach for facilitating change by helping people to resolve ambivalence and find intrinsic reasons for making needed behavior change. Originally designed for people with substance use disorders, motivational interviewing is now broadly applied in health care, psychotherapy, correctional, and counseling settings.” https://dictionary.apa.org/motivational-interviewing

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Anonymous wrote:My thing with masks is unless you truly need to protect against viruses, that people want to escape being sick by masking is detrimental. Just like how we all lose immunity if we stop vax, if everyone just protects themselves, the day you stop, you'll be sicker. Building immunity is part of what keeps you well. Sometimes you get sick and you don't get sicker. All the RSV cases, all these bad sicknesses on the rise in intensity - it's somewhat because nobody got sick for years masking. It's why living on a farm and not constantly washing your hands isn't the worst thing in the world. On some level being 1000% protected and clean doesn't help you keep healthy. We're not going to have perfection. Life is somewhat about getting stronger and while unfortunate that we get sick, managing a cold is better than getting pneumonia. I think people should relax a bit. Some people are dispositioned to feel effects from certain viruses others do not. You should of course try to prevent yourself from harm but reasonably, be logical that nothing is 100% guaranteed. You can mask and isolate and wash your hands 100x a day and still get COVID! My family are really lax about this kind of stuff and we get sick 1x a year all of us. DS has had COVID 2x but the rest of us only once and we've not masked or taken many precautions other than gotten the vax/boosters. Of course that will help you not die and we don't want to die! But on a daily basis, you have to live your live and not be so afraid of it.

Says an able-bodied person w/o chronic respiratory trouble. Listen, I'm glad your kid got covid twice without long-covid effects. If you'd mask in public, I wouldn't have to share your lax standards. Nobody is masking 24/7. Those of us with sense are masking when we're indoors in shared spaces because we're not self-indulgent, science-denying dicks. Wearing a mask in public so you protect yourself and others isn't going to harm you. At all. It's not gonna lower your immunity; there are plenty of germs for your immune system to munch on at home, while you sleep, or bathe, or pet your pet(s), or take a walk outside w/o a mask. Masking indoors when in public reduces your chance of running into RSV, flu, covid and other illnesses. And, most kindly, it keeps you from spreading them. Be as lax as you want in your own space, and raise your standards in public because it's easy to not be a jerk these days, if you're at all inclined.

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Does anyone know if getting the new booster this week (by 12/24) would still protect for Christmas? Even partial protection??

What do you mean by protection? Protection against infection, transmission, severe illness? The CDC does not claim that the booster will protect against infection or transmission. The CDC only mentions protection against severe illness. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html
But for non-elderly, non-vulnerable people, the risk of severe illness from Omicron is exceptionally low. A Cleveland Clinic study of 50,000 employees (vaxxed and unvaxxed) was unable to tell if last year's bivalent booster helped to protect against severe covid illness or not, because too few people in the study got severely ill from Omicron to tell.